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Jews for Ron Paul exposed as a fraud (Led by a gay pagan unitarian)
Israel Forum.com ^ | 11-15-07 | Sultan Knish

Posted on 11/15/2007 10:46:14 AM PST by AndrewWalden

Ron Paul, the Anti-Republican candidate for President and a favorite of White Supremacists like David Duke, has unveiled a new defense strategy to counter charges of Anti-semitism. The campaign of the candidate who claims to disdain ethnic collectivism now boasts an organization called "Jews for Ron Paul."

If Jews for Ron Paul puts you in mind of Jews for Jesus, you're not far wrong. Because Jews for Ron Paul is a scam.

Jim C. Perry, the Executive Director of Jews for Ron Paul and heavily featured as the spokesman for the front group. Like many Jews for Jesus figures, Jim C. Perry claims to be an Orthodox Jew. The JTA article featured many of Perry's grandiose claims.

For Perry, an Orthodox Jew, there is a connection between his own religious beliefs about personal responsibility and the Libertarian philosophy underpinning Paul's candidacy.

"It's the idea that people are meant to be equal and free in a just society. Those are the same things that draw me to be an observant Orthodox Jew," said Perry. "I believe Judaism puts strong emphasis on individual meaning, personal responsibility," he said, adding that God "calls us to take responsibility for our own actions.".

Here I am a kipah-wearing, fringes-hanging Orthodox Jew...

The real Jim C. Perry though is not an Orthodox Jew, though he makes a point of dressing up like one until he's virtually a cartoon. He's gay and a self-identified Churchgoing Unitarian Universalist. Here he identifies himself as a Seminarian. He has another account where he calls himself Reverend Jim C. Perry H.P., M.D.A. (he also claimed to have a doctorate in English which he apparently modestly left off here all at the tender age of 22) and a Pagan Minister. Briefly he appears to have gone Ward Churchill and began calling himself Jim FlyingEagle. (He may have also used James L. Rush and posted at Cherokee Pride as James L. Rushing River pretending to be Cherokee)

Now Jim C. Perry, Gay Pagan Unitarian Minister (possibly also Cherokee and Mormon), thanks to a few photos in costume, is being passed off as an Orthodox Jew. A clear and unambiguous lie. Like everything else in the Ron Paul campaign, Jim C. Perry and Jews for Ron Paul is a lie.

Under the user name XSOIDEI, Jim C. Perry has posted at pagan sites as "Pagan GOP"

GOP NOT KKK

by Pagan GOP (Concord, NH)

I am quite offended by the person who the comment that the KKK and GOP are one and the same. I am a PROUD Republican and Pagan. I was hurt by your comments.

No, I do not support the War in Iraq, no Republican in his right mind would! Bob Barr, Ron Paul and Orrin Hatch, all GOPer in Congress were OPPOSED to the War!

I am very Liberty Minded.

Xsoidei

Since universal unitarians are actually compatible with paganism this may not be a contradiction or it may be another case of Ron Paul supporters pretending to be members of various groups to rally support for him. There are signs of this with Jim C. Perry because he also appears to have been joining Mormon groups. Jim C. Perry or "Yaakov Perry" as he calls himself on the phony Yahoo Jews for Ron Paul group has penned announcements on behalf of "Jews for Paul" shilling for Ron Paul on Digg under YaakovPerry. There he has claimed to be Chabad, but here he claimed to be gay and a quaker.

Perry, who is gay, said he wants to help Democratic lawmakers protect and extend civil liberties in New Hampshire. Perry's marriage is recognized by his Quaker faith but not New Hampshire law.

He appears to run New England Flags and to be married to a man named Armen. If you're getting bored of this the sum total is that Jim C. Perry is a lot of things, including compulsive liar. He is not an Orthodox Jew. Jews for Ron Paul which he runs is a scam.

When I first wrote about Ron Paul, I noticed a burst of comments from people claiming to be Jewish and Ron Paul supporters. I suspected that most of them were fake, probably at least one of them was really Jim C. Perry who moonlights as a Jewish Ron Paul supporter, when he's not being a Pagan Ron Paul supporter, a Cherokee or a Unitarian Universalist. The JTA story on the Ron Paul campaign and Jim C. Perry or Yakov Perry needs to be changed to reflect the fact that he is not an Orthodox Jew.

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KEYWORDS: antisemitism; candidateforcranks; dncfalseprophets; election2008; gay; homosexualagenda; jews; jewsforronpaul; pagans; paulestines; paulestinians; paultards; phony; ronpaul
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To: AndrewWalden; KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle; Allegra; darkwing104; mnehrling; ejonesie22; lormand; ...
Exposed here a couple months ago. A Jewish Unitarian Universalist Transhumanist Quaker self identified progressive Democrat running the group to sell TShirts and bash the Republican Jewish Coalition. And, of course, touted by the paulestinians as representative of the Jewish community. A real class act, the Paul campaign. And of course, they know nothing about any of this.

Posts 22,24,35 from JEWS4RONPAUL.ORG {Who's Behind the "Ron Paul REVOLUTION"} below, my bold.

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Jim C. Perry
My Story: I live in West Manchester, NH. I am a member of Granite State Liberals and I plan on running for State Representative in 2008.
Birth Date: January 16th
Issues: Civil Liberties; Civil Rights; Economic Growth; Education; Election Reform; Good

Government; Military Issues

Registered to Vote: Yes
Party Affiliation: Democrat
Political Identification: Progressive

My Religious Views

http://64.233.167.104/search?q=cache:IhLR19AfvzEJ:www.jimcperry.com/religion.html+%22Jim+C.+Perry%22+%22new+hampshire%22+jewish&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=1&gl=us

Religion: I consider myself a Jewish Unitarian Universalist Transhumanist Quaker. Yeah, it's a mouthful and understandably so.

http://newhampshireunderground.com/forum/index.php?PHPSESSID=8f7d41c84ab77985422592821f84244d&topic=11006.0

Dear Friends,

I wish to offer a serious warning about one of our own. Part of being anti-government must include taking personal responsibility and policing our own communities. I have avoided using other people's names in this post, out of respect for those with whom I did not consult prior to posting this and who may not agree with my decision to do so. But many of them are known to you. I know this post is long, but I encourage you to read through to the end, to have a better understanding of the number of people who have already been hurt and over such a long period of time. My goal is to prevent Jim from doing further harm in our community.

You are probably personally acquainted with Jim aka JP, and, like myself, have socialized with him at BBQs, conferences and PorcFest. You may have found him to be pleasant and charming. Unfortunately, I believe that he is completely untrustworthy. I’m not just talking about flakiness, either. I’m talking about repeated acts of irresponsibility, thoughtlessness, lies, and even theft and fraud.

A year ago, when I was running for the Executive Committee of the Libertarian Party of New Hampshire (LPNH), two different people pulled me aside and quietly encouraged me to run *against* Jim for the position of Secretary. At that point, I knew Jim had a reputation for flakiness. However, that was all I knew. I was hesitant to run against someone I considered to be a friend, as well as a fellow Free Stater. And I didn’t want to hurt anyone’s feelings. I chose to run for the position of Treasurer instead, as the current Treasurer had been serving for 5 years and had expressed an interest in stepping down. I won the position of Treasurer, and Jim won the position of Secretary. Perhaps if those who had warned me had been more explicit, some or all of the following events could have been avoided. I am now wondering just how many of us have had bad experiences with this young man, and we’ve all been keeping it quiet, not realizing the extent of it. Well, sunshine is the best disinfectant, so allow me to shine some light on some of my experiences with Jim over the past two years. While I have also heard rumors of other peoples’ negative experiences, I will leave it to them to share, or not, as they wish.

• Last year I attended almost all of the LPNH’s monthly meetings. Although Jim was serving on the ExComm at the time, and his presence was necessary to form a quorum, I never once saw him at a meeting. More than once, I observed then-Chair John B. to say that he had just spoken with Jim, who had assured him that he would be at the meeting. I inwardly observed that John, and his wife (who was also on the ExComm) had therefore made the 2 hours round-trip drive from Grafton to Concord and were unable to conduct any formal party business. This hindered the ExComm in such ways as being unable to vote to give party funds to candidates running for office.

• In April 2006, Jim told me that he had been “fired” as an outreach Liaison for the Free State Project. He didn’t say why. This struck me as very odd, seeing as how the FSP was in great need of volunteers, and I was under the impression that Jim was one of the top recruiters of new members for the FSP. I inquired about this via email to the Board of Directors of the FSP (on which I was serving at the time). I never received an explanation as to why Jim had been fired; I was simply told that it was within the rights of the Liaison Coordinator to do so. I was left to assume that the LC was some kind of meanie and that my friend Jim had been wronged. I now wonder if information was being withheld in a misguided attempt to protect the guilty (although this is just speculation on my part).

• In Dec 2006, while serving as First 1000 project manager for the FSP, one of my phone bank volunteers told me that he had spoken by phone with an FSP participant in Massachusetts recruited to the FSP by Jim. This participant had no recollection of having joined the FSP.

• On Feb. 15, 2007, Jim suggested to the LPNH ExComm via email that we have a gun raffle to raise funds. We agreed that it sounded like a good idea. Jim ordered raffle tickets from an MVP member who owns a print shop, and started selling them at the FSP’s Liberty Forum conference. On Feb. 23, in the LPNH hospitality suite at NHLF, he told me, the Chair and a former ExComm member, in the presence of several other people, that he had already sold enough tickets to cover the cost of the guns being raffled off. Per Jim’s original written budget, the cost of the guns was $825.

• In April 2007, the person who printed the raffle tickets contacted me and said that the LPNH had never paid her. Apparently she had given an invoice to Jim, and he never passed it on. After giving me a replacement invoice, she was paid (late).

• Also in April 2007, the LPNH held a convention at St. Anselm’s in Manchester. We provided a buffet lunch to attendees. We never received an invoice for this lunch, which cost approximately $1000. I asked Jim repeatedly for any info, as he was the one who had made the arrangements with St. Anselm’s. He never provided me with an invoice, contact name or phone number. Finally I dug up an email address on the internet and contacted St. A’s myself. They got back to me promptly and said they had mailed the invoice to Jim’s home address. At my request, they sent a replacement invoice to the LPNH and were paid (late).

• On May 2, 2007, Jim sent out an email to a number of LPNH members, at the Chair’s request, announcing an emergency meeting of the LPNH on May 4. Despite the fact that I had a houseguest from the West Coast at the time, I made arrangements to be at the meeting location in Manchester at the announced time. At least three other LPNH members drove in from other towns. When we arrived, we were told by a member who lives in the building where our meetings take place that the meeting was cancelled. Jim never showed up. Apparently the Chair cancelled the meeting just hours before its start time, told Jim, and Jim made no effort to notify anyone else. The Chair later apologized for this mishap; Jim never offered any explanations or apologies.

• On June 9, 2007, a meeting was scheduled and publicly announced for the Hillsborough County LP, of which Jim is the Chair. After my experience with the emergency meeting on May 4, I made a point of calling Jim two hours prior to the start time of the meeting, to confirm that it was taking place. He assured me that it was taking place, that he would be there, and that nine people had RSVP’ed. I drove to Manchester in pouring rain to find only one other LPNH member in attendance. Jim never showed, never called me, and never offered me a word of explanation or apology.

• In July 2007, having never received any money from Jim for raffle ticket sales, and in an email discussing various other points of LPNH business, I asked him to bring the money and the stubs to the upcoming LPNH meeting. He never responded. Three days later, he resigned his position as Secretary via email, with no advance notice. He stated in his letter of resignation that he would hand over his ticket stubs and cash to another member of the ExComm.

• Since Jim’s resignation on July 5, he has been asked a minimum of 11 times, by at least five different LPNH members, via a combination of emails and phone calls, to hand over the raffle tickets (both sold and unsold) and the cash he collected. We made numerous efforts to resolve the matter with him privately. I internally proposed to the rest of the ExComm the possibility of making long-term repayment arrangements with him for the cash, if for whatever reason he didn't have it in his possession at the present time , if he would only give us the ticket stubs. I personally offered to meet him at a time and place convenient for him to retrieve the ticket stubs. I can’t speak for others, but for myself, I continually believed that this was all “youthful irresponsibility” on Jim’s part. He ignored all email communications from both myself and the Chair. He repeatedly made telephone statements to various individuals of “I will give the stubs and cash to so and so in a day or two”, but it never happened.

• On September 9, /b>out of a desire to avoid defrauding dozens of people who had bought LPNH raffle tickets from Jim but stood no chance of winning a prize, the LPNH ExComm passed a motion to go public with the fact that Jim had never handed over any of his ticket stubs, and to offer replacement tickets or refunds to the purchasers. We gave Jim a deadline of two weeks to hand over the ticket stubs, and additional time to hand over the cash. The party Chair informed him of this privately. Jim did not respond.

• On 9/25/07, after the two week deadline had passed and as I was preparing to send out the public notices about the raffle, another LPNH member chose to make a last-ditch effort to resolve the matter with Jim privately. He called Jim at 9:00PM on a weeknight and made arrangements to drive to his home in Amherst to retrieve the ticket stubs and cash. After he made the drive, Jim failed to hand over any cash, although he did hand over some ticket stubs. Furthermore, Jim said “Too bad you didn’t get here sooner, or I could have gone to the bank.” Once again, Jim had been called at 9:00PM, and had said before this person drove to Amherst that Jim had the cash to give him.

I and the rest of the LPNH ExComm received an email the same night from someone who was told by Jim that he gave the tickets and the cash to the person who drove to Jim’s home in Amherst. Since this directly conflicted with what I had been told by the person who drove to Jim’s house, I asked the email writer for verification. When I questioned this person, they revealed that they, personally, and others that they know, have also had experiences with Jim “withholding owed funds” (direct quote). If forced to choose between Jim’s word and the other LPNH member, they would go with the other person.

The LPNH will honor our obligations to our friends and supporters who bought raffle tickets. We have purchased a raffle permit, will buy the guns from Riley’s as Jim arranged, and will award them to two ticket buyers. But the only one who raised any funds via this venture was Jim C. Perry.

While I don’t intend to press legal charges, I do want to let as many people know about this as possible, so that they can see what kind of man he really is, and keep that in mind when considering whether to do business with him or entrust him with a position of responsibility within their organization. I received a bulk email from him within the last two months indicating that he has opened some sort of online business; I assume that means he takes payment in advance for goods sold online. I have also heard that he has formed some sort of organization to support Ron Paul’s Presidential campaign. I don't know whether or not he is soliciting funds in the name of this organization. It is my hope that no more of my friends and comrades waste their time or lose their money to Jim.

In Liberty,
Sandy P. aka Friday
LPNH Treasurer


61 posted on 11/15/2007 12:01:05 PM PST by SJackson (every one shall sit in safety under his own vine and figtree, none to make him afraid,)
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To: darkwing104

Note post 61 for his background.


62 posted on 11/15/2007 12:04:34 PM PST by SJackson (every one shall sit in safety under his own vine and figtree, none to make him afraid,)
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To: ejonesie22
"Maybe the good Capitan has had enough “away missions” to stay under the radar..."

Sex with too many green aliens will start to wither the head.

63 posted on 11/15/2007 12:07:20 PM PST by lormand (Ron Paul - The Idiot's Idiot)
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To: George W. Bush
Can't he still be Jewish too? Ethnically Jewish? As in with a mother who is Jewish, circusized on the proper day, etc.?...Maybe this thread isn't the right place for this old question. I've read a few discussions between Jews on this subject and it can get ugly. It's that thing about whether being Jewish is religious or ethnic or some gradation or combination of the two. They've had a number of debates over the years in Israel over this.

If he were a Jew who became a Quaker or Unitarian, he't be an apostate Jew, a heretic, barred from religious participation in the Jewish community. IMO it's a fraud, he doesn't in any way represent a Jewish position as legitimate as an excommunicated Catholic establishing Catholics4RonPaul. He should be honest and set up Quakers4RonPaul.

I doubt you saw ugly confrontations between Jews on this issue, more likely with non-Jews who don't recognize the right of Jewish denominations to determine what constitutes a Jew.

64 posted on 11/15/2007 12:14:07 PM PST by SJackson (every one shall sit in safety under his own vine and figtree, none to make him afraid,)
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To: SJackson
If he were a Jew who became a Quaker or Unitarian, he't be an apostate Jew, a heretic, barred from religious participation in the Jewish community.

BUMPed... for beating me to it! ;)

65 posted on 11/15/2007 12:17:46 PM PST by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle ("Ron Paul and his flaming antiwar spam monkeys can Kiss my Ass!!" -- Jim Robinson, 09/30/07)
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To: SJackson

Ah, yes. The ol’ raffle baffle scam. I remember this guy. There was a RP thread about him a month or two ago. People calling him up, going to his house looking for their money. No money but always an excuse. Maybe he’ll now pay them off in Liberty Dollars.


66 posted on 11/15/2007 12:18:05 PM PST by bcsco ("The American Indians found out what happens when you don't control immigration.")
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To: SJackson; KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle; lormand
I consider myself a Jewish Unitarian Universalist Transhumanist Quaker.

And as I said before, I consider myself a Druid Gothic Nine-Fingered Transcendentalist Princess of the Rainbows.

67 posted on 11/15/2007 12:18:31 PM PST by Allegra (Greetings from a kinder, gentler Iraq. God bless US and Coalition Forces.)
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To: Allegra

"I'm Batman." ;)

68 posted on 11/15/2007 12:20:42 PM PST by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle ("Ron Paul and his flaming antiwar spam monkeys can Kiss my Ass!!" -- Jim Robinson, 09/30/07)
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To: SJackson
If he were a Jew who became a Quaker or Unitarian, he't be an apostate Jew, a heretic, barred from religious participation in the Jewish community. IMO it's a fraud, he doesn't in any way represent a Jewish position as legitimate as an excommunicated Catholic establishing Catholics4RonPaul. He should be honest and set up Quakers4RonPaul.

Ron Paul probably has the Quaker vote already.

I doubt you saw ugly confrontations between Jews on this issue, more likely with non-Jews who don't recognize the right of Jewish denominations to determine what constitutes a Jew.

Years back, the debate in Israel over right of entry and who is a Jew got pretty lively. It seems to arouse a lot of passion.
69 posted on 11/15/2007 12:27:59 PM PST by George W. Bush (Apres moi, le deluge.)
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To: Allegra
And as I said before, I consider myself a Druid Gothic Nine-Fingered Transcendentalist Princess of the Rainbows.

That's how I've always thought of you.

Hmmm...DruidGothicNine-FingeredTranscendentalistPrincessOfTheRainbows4RonPaul.com?

Wait...sorry, that domain name has already been taken by someone else.
70 posted on 11/15/2007 12:30:35 PM PST by George W. Bush (Apres moi, le deluge.)
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To: ElkGroveDan
Thanks for that gracious offer. I'm a political junky, and that would be great to do. I'll mention it to my bro.

If you are ever in Austin, give me a heads up. I can't give you a special tour, but anyone can tour the capital.

71 posted on 11/15/2007 12:31:20 PM PST by lormand (Ron Paul - The Idiot's Idiot)
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To: AuntB
Who are Ron Paul supporters?

You forgot Hitlery Clintoon supporters who want to make sure that the Republican Party nominates a "can't win" candidate.

72 posted on 11/15/2007 12:38:06 PM PST by 50mm (Inside every cynical person, there is a disappointed idealist - G. Carlin)
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To: Allegra

I agree; they’re all great examples of “The True Believers” as described in Eric Hoffer’s excellent book. Reason has gone out the window; it’s all about the movement for them. What the guru says is true even when they know it’s not. It’s a strange phenomena yet hilarious; they’re oh so earnest without being a bit serious. Their guru is a fraud and they’re frivolous.


73 posted on 11/15/2007 12:40:17 PM PST by elhombrelibre (RUN Paul - a man proudly putting al Qaeda's interest ahead of America's.)
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To: 50mm

You’re probably right about that.


74 posted on 11/15/2007 12:42:47 PM PST by AuntB (" It takes more than walking across the border to be an American." Duncan Hunter)
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To: Eric in the Ozarks

Did you hear about the hate crime at the Unitarian Church?

Out in the front yard, someone burned a wooden question mark.


75 posted on 11/15/2007 12:44:53 PM PST by Petronski (Willardcare abortions $50 each, $25 per twin. Ask for S&H Stamps!)
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To: Allegra
RainbowPrincess4RonPaul

Has a ring to it, and I'm sure you could sell T Shirts. Worth considering.

76 posted on 11/15/2007 12:50:51 PM PST by SJackson (every one shall sit in safety under his own vine and figtree, none to make him afraid,)
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To: lormand

Damn, he has done a planet full then...


77 posted on 11/15/2007 12:56:04 PM PST by ejonesie22 (Real voters in real voting booths will elect FDT.)
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To: George W. Bush
I doubt you saw ugly confrontations between Jews on this issue, more likely with non-Jews who don't recognize the right of Jewish denominations to determine what constitutes a Jew. Years back, the debate in Israel over right of entry and who is a Jew got pretty lively. It seems to arouse a lot of passion.

Israel isn't FR. The issue there isn't who is a Jew, rather has the time arrived to limit right of return to Jews rather than the former policy of a Jewish grandparent, the former basis of persecution.

78 posted on 11/15/2007 1:00:02 PM PST by SJackson (every one shall sit in safety under his own vine and figtree, none to make him afraid,)
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To: SJackson
Has a ring to it, and I'm sure you could sell T Shirts.

I only accept Liberty Dollars. None of that evil fiat money.

79 posted on 11/15/2007 1:03:00 PM PST by Allegra (Greetings from a kinder, gentler Iraq. God bless US and Coalition Forces.)
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To: jd777

What EXACTLY is a neocon?


80 posted on 11/15/2007 1:43:48 PM PST by Turret Gunner A20
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