Posted on 08/30/2007 8:16:50 PM PDT by shield
By the way, I listened to the tape of Senator Craig being interviewed by Officer Karsnia and I’ve got to tell you that in over a decade in Law Enforcement I’ve never been so ashamed….
Of an officer.
This kid should be suspended for making a false arrest. There is absolutely no probable cause, not a lick of evidence outside this kid’s feelings, or enthusiasm for arrest stats.
Unbelievable. Craig may be gay and might even visit rest rooms on occasions but this is a REALLY raw deal he got here. If I were this kid’s superior I stick him on the desk pending an IA.
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Ossifer, I agree that there is something about both Karsnia and Craigs story that stinks. There are far too many holes in it. I think they are both full of hot air frankly.
If Craig and Karsnia both want to resurrect their careers, they should both swallow their pride, suck it up and get on their knees and ask the Lord for forgiveness.
The American people just want the truth.
A lawmaker who pleads guilty in such a situation, without even consulting an attorney, is too stupid to continue to serve as a lawmaker.
Sorry, but with 30 years of law, I can tell you the case is fine.
Plenty of PC.
Craig pleaded guilty. Karsnia’s not a Senator.
If you have experience with investigations and listen to a lot of interviews and interrogations, this dialogue is not unusual. The cops are rarely perfect and the suspect is alomst always innocent. Sorting out what happened is as much art as science.
I’m familiar with several departments around the country which would look up to Wackenhut.
Hint, think compaign contributions to Cliton from crooks the day before this story all of a sudden appeared on every TV network.
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Should the cop have let it go a little further. Try to get him in the same stall or record some conversation? Would they have had cameras in the men’s room?
I worked for Wackenhut for a short period of time. What a joke. I always wondered if we were pulling security or just “Wackenoff”.
PS: I was not very popular with management.
sorry, but I don’t agree one bit. The cop was put on that beat for the express purpose of keeping a public restroom from becoming a bordello. If he or anyone else in law enforcement wanted to blackmail republican senators or merely entrap innocent citizens, I’m sure there would be waaaay more easy methods than this. Further to this, if Sen. Craig wasn’t looking for a clandestine hookup in a public area, why did he plead guilty instead of be outraged that someone would even insinuate the charge?
Not to point fingers of course, but, tell me, are you familiar with the writings of a certain Dr. Freud?
And that was the appropriate thing to do since he is guilty.
Then he shouldn't have plead guilty. You wouldn't plead guilty, neither would I.
I can understand if he was gay and cruising, but to plead guilty even if he was guilty is such bad judgement by a sentator that he should resign anyhow.
I'm more ashamed of the stupid senator, gay or not--what a dumbass....
I agree with Mac. No PC for detainment or an arrest. Anyone that reads the entire transcript and report written by the officer should see the SGT. is not one of St Paul’s finest. Many holes in the report and questionable facts. Piss poor work that a first year security guard could have equaled or surpassed in investigative skills and professionalism.
FYI, my number 10.
I think he arrested him too early (for a clear cut case).
A few more really overt acts would have made the presentation of the case crystal clear.
That said, Craig pleading guilty to the final charge tells me at least,
that he should resign ASAP.
I would never, never, never plead guilty to something I did not do.
I assume the LEO had been briefed on the typical conduct of gays attempting to solicit sex in a public bathroom. Craig displayed a number of those actions, actions not typical of those not so soliciting.
Example, LEO spots car driving 25 mph in a 40 mpg zone, staying stopped at a stop sign for an extended time period when there was no oncoming traffic, hugging right side of road, but also weaving, all at 2:30 AM.
None of these acts are illegal, but taken together, constitute plenty of PC for a DWI traffic stop.But in this case, did cop stop action before an actual solicitation was committed, therefore a crime? Probably.
Ditto.
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