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Abortion - Don't just hold Rudy and Mitt accountable, remember Fred
Spark it Up ^ | June 24, 2007

Posted on 06/24/2007 7:54:42 AM PDT by rob21

We are holding Rudy and Mitt to the fire about their past on abortion. Lets not forget Fred Thompson.

Abortions should be legal in all circumstances as long as the procedure is completed within the first trimester of the pregnancy. Link

A very strong statement from Fred Thompson when he was running for congress.


TOPICS: Politics
KEYWORDS: abortion; duncanhunter; elections; fredonabortion; fredthompson; rino; romney; rudygiuliani; troll; zot
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To: Jim Robinson

So you say.


201 posted on 06/24/2007 8:10:18 PM PDT by airborne (Airborne - Ranger - Vietnam veteran! Duncan Hunter for President!)
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To: airborne

The personal attacks are coming from both sides, but only being dealt with on one side.

This thread is a prefect example.


Please be so kind as to quote the worst of the anti-Hunter attacks (in context with the post that stimulated them.

We’ll feel free to do the same with the anti-Fred attacks, OK?

You go first, since you raised the accusation.


202 posted on 06/24/2007 8:13:47 PM PDT by Atlas Sneezed ("We do have tough gun laws in Massachusetts; I support them, I won't chip away at them" -Mitt Romney)
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To: Beelzebubba
Please be so kind as to quote the worst of the anti-Hunter attacks (in context with the post that stimulated them.

I did say "both sides".

And it'd not just here, nor did it just start today.

If you want to start a flame war, do it with out me. This is the attitude I was talking about.

203 posted on 06/24/2007 8:18:57 PM PDT by airborne (Airborne - Ranger - Vietnam veteran! Duncan Hunter for President!)
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To: Beelzebubba
Beelzebubba, you know that there are some on this board who have been trying to connect DH with Randy Cunningham and that whole dirty defense contractor scandal for months now.

IMO that's the worst of all--the protectionist stuff is just schoolyard nonsense.

204 posted on 06/24/2007 8:22:26 PM PDT by WalterSkinner ( In Memory of My Father--WWII Vet and Patriot 1926-2007)
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To: Beelzebubba

BTW, while I support Hunter, I have never posted anything attacking Thompson. I’m still learning about him and I am not prepared to discount him.

When I said both sides, I was refering to the Thompson supporters versus anyone who hasn’t jumped on the Fred bandwagon.


205 posted on 06/24/2007 8:29:01 PM PDT by airborne (Airborne - Ranger - Vietnam veteran! Duncan Hunter for President!)
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To: rob21

Fred has a lot to prove, especially since he’s supposedly drawing people from the current administration. That’s down right scary on a number of counts.


206 posted on 06/24/2007 8:31:36 PM PDT by Rockitz (This isn't rocket science- Follow the money and you'll find the truth.)
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To: Jim Robinson
What is your opinion on this post about President Bush?

"I liked him better when he was a drunk."

The Mods felt it was acceptable.

207 posted on 06/24/2007 8:32:59 PM PDT by airborne (Airborne - Ranger - Vietnam veteran! Duncan Hunter for President!)
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To: Coleus

Ok...I read that bill, over and over. Can someone explain to me what he voted for in regular english terms, so I can see if I have a semi-basic understanding? Please and thank you.


208 posted on 06/24/2007 8:46:42 PM PDT by trussell (BOSS spelled backwards is Double SOB)
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To: Grunthor
It is truly sad when ones’ favorite candidate is so pathetic that they have to attack others rather than pump up their own candidate.

Hunter's an awesome candidate...it's his total lack of organization and fundraising that rots.

209 posted on 06/24/2007 9:07:52 PM PDT by Mr. Silverback (A pacifist sees no distinction between the arsonist and the fireman--Freeper ccmay)
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To: trussell

which bill, the website lists 50 of his votes?


210 posted on 06/24/2007 9:14:15 PM PDT by Coleus (Roe v. Wade and Endangered Species Act both passed in 1973, Murder Babies/save trees, birds, insects)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
Fred Thompson doesn't support abortion, and lying about his record is against the rules here, bub.

I got a freepmail with a link to this thread from some whiner bemoaning the demise of the newbie blogpimper (not that there's anything wrong with that, but that is what he's doing) rob21. I would like to post what I wrote back:

I was going to post back a bunch of stuff about the errors in your freepmail, but I'll just put that aside and go for brevity:

Anyone who thinks these Fred quotes from '94 mean anything is a complete, drooling moron.

This crap is so irrelevant that it qualifes as disinformation even before they start lying about it. Any time JimRob boots someone who's lying about ANY candidate, I will stand up and cheer.

211 posted on 06/24/2007 9:14:51 PM PDT by Mr. Silverback (A pacifist sees no distinction between the arsonist and the fireman--Freeper ccmay)
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To: rob21

The biggest difference between Thompson and McCAin/Bush is the latter two have CONTEMPT for their base, and Thompson doesent (as far as we know).


212 posted on 06/24/2007 9:17:34 PM PDT by Nonstatist
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To: Coleus

The only one that has everyone up in arms against Thompson. 086

Key Vote Summary for 086
Bill Number: H.R.2020
Bill Title: Treasury Postal Service General Government Appropriations 1996
Date of Vote: 8/5/1995
Short Description: FEHB Plans: Treasury/Postal Appropriations
Vote Summary: As passed by the House, the Fiscal Year 1996 Treasury/Postal Appropriations Bill (H.R. 2020) prohibited Federal Employees’ Health Benefit (FEHB) programs from paying for abortions, except to save the mother’s life. A Senate committee subsequently struck this pro-life prohibition from the bill.

On August 5, 1995, the full Senate agreed to the committee amendment striking the House’s pro-life funding prohibition, 52-yes, 41-no, 1-present, 6-not voting (Roll Call 369). “No” was a pro-life vote.


213 posted on 06/24/2007 9:19:35 PM PDT by trussell (BOSS spelled backwards is Double SOB)
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To: Mr. Silverback

“Hunter’s an awesome candidate...it’s his total lack of organization and fundraising that rots.”

That is like the football coach years ago that said except for not being able to tackle, pass, catch or play defense, we’ve got a great team!


214 posted on 06/24/2007 9:20:02 PM PDT by Grunthor (Once a cobra bit Fred Thompsons' leg. After five days of excruciating pain, the cobra died.)
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To: Rockitz

The Fred Thompson-George W. Bush comparisons are going to arise soon enough. You can bet on it. The two come across waaaay too similar for it not to happen.

I don’t know how well it will hold. Thompson is a lot of things Bush isn’t. But they also have a heck of a lot in common. The way they talk, their straightforwardness, their policies on Iraq, Fred’s ties to the Washington elite...

We shall see. I think Thompson is probably a strong enough candidate to fend off a lot of that, but it remains to be seen.


215 posted on 06/24/2007 9:23:58 PM PDT by CheyennePress
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To: airborne

Shrug.


216 posted on 06/24/2007 9:23:58 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Our God-given unalienable rights are not open to debate, negotiation or compromise!)
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To: rob21
It’s fine if you support him, but you can’t claim that he’s this magnificent social conservative who will save the GOP when he makes statements in support of abortion.

Point 1) Are we discussing candidates for the presidency of the United States, or for the salvation of the GOP? I'll take the Republic over a political party, thanks.

Point 2) You wrote "makes statements" which disingenuously posits the present tense, yet use an incredibly old questionnaire Thompson doesn't even remember filling out to back yourself up.

A lot of politicians say things one way, and then vote another, usually to the detriment of those who supported them. Here you put forth the opposite, one answering a frickin' inconsequential questionnaire one way, and then voting the way his supporters would like him to.

Pathetic.

217 posted on 06/24/2007 9:24:08 PM PDT by AnnaZ (I keep 2 magnums in my desk.One's a gun and I keep it loaded.Other's a bottle and it keeps me loaded)
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To: rob21
I am no big fan of Fred Thompson. But I can't agree with your post. Even if true, he changed his position on abortion years ago, has a pro-life record and is running on a conservative plank.

People can and do sincerely change their minds regarding issues, can they not?

218 posted on 06/24/2007 9:25:16 PM PDT by TAdams8591 ( Guiliani is a Democrat in Republican drag. Mitt Romney for president in 2008! : ))
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To: Spiff

>>>What he SAID many years ago was made up for by what he actually DID in Congress. <<<

Mitt Romney vetoed every single pro-abort law the Massachusetts legislature sent to him. He is just as conservative as Fred Thompson. If you want to play fair. ;) But I have a feeling a lot of you guys don’t. :)


219 posted on 06/24/2007 9:34:06 PM PDT by CheyennePress
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To: TAdams8591
Dang, we missed the hoedown. By the time we got here "rob21" had already been banned.

(I miss everything, every frickin' time.)

220 posted on 06/24/2007 9:35:02 PM PDT by AnnaZ (I keep 2 magnums in my desk.One's a gun and I keep it loaded.Other's a bottle and it keeps me loaded)
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