Posted on 05/10/2007 5:43:50 AM PDT by drzz
This is the sequel to the other videos about Custer's Last Stand, and how Custer was betrayed by his subordinates in the battle during one the most famous disaster in US military history.
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This is not true.
The “breakdown story” was invented by the archaeologists in 1993 but has been totally destroyed since. Researchs in 2006 showed that Custer’s men were good marksmen, because they killed 200 warriors on the field alone (dead by wounds and wounded not included).
The Last Stand is a very historical event, which cannot be disputed. Richard Fox, who claimed that the last stand never happened, was wrong, and was ignoring every Indian testimony.
Indians said that the battle lasted long, very long, with heavy fire, the soldiers who saw the body on June 27, 1876, also testified of great amount of cartridges and a lot of skirmish lines (just as Indians testified).
There was NO breakdown until 5.30 and the last stand on Custer Hill raged from 5.50 to 6.20 p.m.
Many Americans are still aware of the archaeological studies, but they were made with only poor material (10 cartridges on Custer Hill, what a joke ! And 100 years after the battle! With the relic hunters having stolen thousands of cartridges !)
Custer’s resistance was long. Custer’s men had 100 rounds of ammunition in their saddles and pockets.
A more historical testimony:
“Reno proved incompetent and Benteen showed his indifference – I will not use the uglier words that have often been in my mind. Both failed Custer and he had to fight it alone.”
Private William Taylor, 7th cavalry (M), February 20 1910
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d6tFXzvKJTc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DKeTsG2JpQA
We have been to this battle field. It is a haunting place.
I’ve studied this battle since I was 10 years old. I know quite a bit about it. I also happen to live very close to the battlefield and have visited it on countless occasions.
The local indians have an entirely different take on the “history” of the battle handed down to them by their ancestors.
One thing is for sure.
Neither you nor I were at the battle and neither you nor I can honestly say one way or the other what happened there.
Only those who were on Custer Hill know what happened.
and they are all dead.
Yes you are right.
Some officers (like Custer) were buried elsewhere in 1877. Most of the bodies were buried under the 7th monument, in a mass grave.
But Indians (and their barbarious customs) had cut the bodies in pieces, so it’s very difficult to know if every piece of the body is buried under the monument.
Custer was a pompous jackass with an overblown estimation of his own abilities.
He was no hero, he dragged his men into a fight he should have never gotten himself involved in.
His orders were to find the indians and maintain contact with them.
When he thought he had been discovered, he convinced himself the indians were going to run. (thus the reason for sending Benteen on that circuitous circle jerk that kept him and the packtrain out of the battle for most of the day).
He then compounds his problem by sending Reno with his command down into the valley to attack the south end of the village.
Reno quickly realizes he’s in over his head, due to inaction, incompetance and fear, he then gives several contradictory orders. Finally orders a full retreat across the river to the heights on what is now called Reno Hill.
Custer proceeds up the ridgeline to Medicine Tail coulee where he THINKS the North end of the Village is. (It’s actually the halfway point). After realizing his mistake he has to fight a pursuing force that finally pins him down on Custer hill. His command by this time has become disjointed and scattered.
Reno is soon joined by Benteen and after some discussion they decide NOT to go to Custer’s aid. Who can say whether they were right or wrong. Had they left the defensive location they were in it’s more than reasonable to expect that they too would have been wiped out. The ground between Custer Hill and Reno hill is perfect for ambush and light cavalry attacks. They would have been hammered from all sides the entire trip.
One unit did try to go to Custer’s aid. But when they reached saddle hill they didn’t see a battle, they saw people moving among bodies scattered on the slope (most likely the village women and children looting the corpses). This was 2 hours into the battle. After retreating back to Reno hill they reported what they saw to Reno and Benteen.
The fact still remains.
You were not there, I was not there
Neither of us know and to say otherwise is mere fantasy. All we have to go on are the reports of the Men both Indian and White that WERE there.
They are buried under that monument on the hill. Custer is buried at Arlington. The markers only show where the bodies were found. Or a close approximation.
Sorry, I made a mistake on my this. Custer is buried at West Point, not Arlington. Thanks gate2wire for correcting me. :)
This is totally untrue.
Custer’s orders were to follow his own judgement when he would be in contact of the enemy.
Custer was brigadier-general at 23 years old and major-general at 24. He won numerous Civil War battles and was known was one of the best cavalry officers of his time.
Custer’s scouts told him that the Indians would run, and every officer and scout had reasons to think that the Indians would run, for it was what they usually did.
Benteen moved far too slowly and disobeyed orders. That’s why he didn’t join Custer in the battle. Benteen is responsible of dawdling.
Reno was in a very good position in the timber acccording to his men and foes. He ran away.
Custer never thought that he was going in the North side of the village, it’s a myth spread by a popular mini-serie called “Son of the Morning Star”. Custer was actually waiting for Benteen and was attracting warriors because he probably thought that Reno was still engaged.
Reno and Benteen had no threat around them and Captain Weir decided to join Custer without any order.
Your facts are not facts. It’s the classical happening of the battle according to tradition. Testimonies however said that Custer took Indians by surprise twice, and that Indians thought that defeat was near. But Reno and Benteen didn’t do their duty. They totally failed to support Custer and didn’t obey any order. They simply betrayed, and it’s a totally accurate thesis according to all the testimonies available.
I was not at LBH but witnesses told the story. Watch the videos, for example:
VIDEOS: US General in chief Miles on Little Big Horn: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d6tFXzvKJTc
The Little Big Horn case (I): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DKeTsG2JpQA
The Little Big Horn case (II) : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2lwpHpq-iP0
The real story of Washita: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4534E1cCLyQ
Watch the videos:
He gave a poor set of commands to hesitant officers. His was the “Hammer and Anvil” strategy that any American combat officer should now be able to recite in his sleep, but in 1876 the gallop around the plains old Civil War officers were basically left without direction that day. He then proceeded down the ridge with half his men and then dropped units off at nearly each path down to the village reducing them and losing the combat iniative while the Indians rolled them up one by one. The Indians having drove back Reno were then some motivated individuals, it was their day in the sun, I salute them, and I’m an unapologetic American of old stock.
Indians hadn’t the initiative until the end of the battle.
Before that, Custer surprised them twice and hoped for support by Benteen and Reno. This support NEVER CAME. Reno left his position, so did Benteen by never joining Custer.
It’s a betrayal. As hard as it is to say, Native American warriors didn’t have a clue to do with the battle. They just found an isolated squadron of cavalry which had been betrayed by 2/3 of the regiment.
Partner, I don’t have to watch the Videos. I’ve studied the history from both sides. Indian and US Government.
I don’t know what axe you have to grind here with this conspiracy theory, but it just doesn’t hold water.
I find it quite funny that someone from France will tell someone who LIVES where the Battle took place, and who has studied it intensely for 30 years that he’s wrong.
Take a hike laddie, you haven’t a clue what you’re talking about.
Oh I will watch the videos.
They should be quite entertaining.
Heard about Custer’s brother who was with Custer that day and the Injuns really wanted that dude and got him. Wasn’t much left but ground up bones. They didn’t like him.
No they didn’t, not much at all.
“It’s a betrayal.”
Enough. In regards to F. Benteen. You are slandering/smearing the name of a man who served OUR country, bravely, for 30 years. Decorated, oft-promoted, he was know for his courage in battle.
You have some desire to defend Custer, fine. Stop slandering brave soldiers.
Pimp your blog/book/videos elsewhere.
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