Posted on 01/20/2007 7:46:41 PM PST by RedRover
The Haditha Marine case, with its leaks of false information including, possibly, tidbits of confessions, has a recent parallel.
Remember the case of Petty Officer Daniel M. King? You don’t?
Evidently, neither does the Washington Post, Associated Press, National Public Radio, and the rest of the media that repeats every NCIS rumor as gospel. This is surprising because it wasn't that long ago that the NCIS lied to them all.
It was the Daniel M. King case, a few short years ago, that should make everyone suspicious of every leak, and every media report, in the Haditha Marines case.
Petty Officer King was a Navy cryptanalyst: Cryptologist Technician (Collection) First Class (CTR1). He was arrested in 1999 on suspicion of espionage, and was summarily stripped of all his rights as a citizen of this country.
NCIS agents administered a polygraph test. It is possible that the agents were not properly trained. In any event, Daniel King’s polygraph was ruled “inconclusive”. At the same time, no hard evidence was found to back up the charge. So the NCIS agents needed a confession.
Petty Officer King was detained by and subjected to a torturous interrogation that lasted over 26 days for 19 to 20 hours at a time.
At a Congressional hearing, attorney Jonathan Turley would testify, “The NCIS manufactured a theory of espionage without foundation and then took steps to compel statements to support that theory. The tapes and evidence secured by the defense in this case reveal agents seeking a trophy not the truth.”
At the same hearing, Lieutenant Robert A. Bailey (JAG, US Naval Reserve), stated:
“The conduct of NCIS agents in this case was nothing short of shocking. Independent reviewers have stated that their techniques were barbaric….
That such conduct occurred at the hands of NCIS is not surprising….Indeed, such conduct is predictable based on the training and guidance manual published by the NCIS.
According to the NCIS Manual, Chapter 14 - Interrogations, any person who adamantly denies any wrongdoing and points to his clean record is "subconsciously confessing."
If a confused suspect asks what is going to happen to him, the NCIS believes this is an indication that he "is beginning a confession."
Additionally, agents are to convey the idea that they will "persist as long as required to resolve the issue under investigation" and that they "will not give up the interrogation."….
[Petty Officer] King's only recourse was to confess to a crime he did not commit in the hopes that he would eventually receive a lawyer and the truth would come out.”
Finally, the truth did come out--despite the efforts of the NCIS. Petty Officer King was not a spy.
He was released in March 2001 after a hellish 520 days in confinement. Confinement in "Special Quarters," the equivalent to maximum security lock-down condition in which he spent approximately 20 hours a day in a six-foot by nine-foot cell.
Today, the NCIS is continuing the same criminal behavior of coercing confessions and ignoring rules and ethics in pursuit of its target. You haven't been reminded of this story in the mainstream media. But the truth is there for anyone willing to look. It's all right here at Documents in the Case of US v. Daniel M. King .
Spreading the word can be an act of patriotism. If the truth stays secret, the very worst of men will bring down our nation's very best.
Another name: SA Doug Einsel was the supervisor of NCIS, Camp Fallujah as of July 2006.
NCIS has several local field offices in Iraq. I believe this is the office where the Pendleton 8/Iron Triangle were intially interviewed before being brought back to Camp Pendleton. Don't know about Haditha. Same office that Jane Seigel, civilian attorney for PFC Jodka indicated there was a picture of the "rubber hose". (Originally, the rubber hose picture was attributed to Camp Pendleton, but she later clarified it was the Fallujah office on Townhall.com I think.)
This just posted by Murtha the Leftist Blogger on the vile Huffington Post
My Testimony on Iraq to the Senate Foreign Relations Committee
Today I delivered the following testimony on Iraq to the Senate Foreign Relations Committee. My plan calls for (1) the redeployment of U.S. forces from Iraq, (2) the execution of a robust diplomatic effort and the restoration of our international credibility, and (3) the repairing of our military readiness and the rebuilding of our strategic reserve to face future threats.
TESTIMONY OF CONGRESSMAN JOHN P. MURTHA
Before the
SENATE FOREIGN RELATIONS COMMITTEE
110th Congress
Tuesday, January 23, 2007
Mr. Chairman, Senator Lugar and distinguished members of this Committee,
For the past five years, the U.S. has had, on average, over 130,000 troops on the ground in Iraq. The Pentagon reports that the Iraqi Security Forces have grown in number, nearly reaching their goal of 325,000 trained and equipped. The Iraqis have a Constitution and have held national elections. These milestones have been met, yet security in Iraq continues to deteriorate. The past four years of the Iraq War have been plagued by mischaracterization based on unrealistic optimism instead of realism. Reality dictates that conditions on the ground are simply moving in the wrong direction.
There are limits to military power. There is no U.S. military solution to Iraq's civil war. It is up to the Iraqis.
Beginning in May 2005, after two years of mischaracterizations and misrepresentations by this Administration, the Defense Appropriations sub-committee required the Department of Defense to submit quarterly reports to Congress on the facts necessary to measure stability and security in Iraq. Since July 2005, we have received these reports. They are dismal and demonstrate a clear lack of progress in vital areas of concern. Electricity, oil production, employment and potable water remain at woeful levels.
The average weekly attacks have grown from 430 in July 2005 to well over 1000 today. Iraqi casualties have increased from 63 per day in October 2005 to over 127 per day.
The latest polls show that 91 percent of Sunni Iraqis and 74 percent of Shia Iraqis want the U.S. forces out of Iraq. In January 2006, 47 percent of Iraqis approved of attacks on U.S.-led forces. When the same polling question was asked just 8 months later, 61 percent of Iraqis approved of attacks on U.S-led forces.
The support of the American public continues to erode and there is little confidence in the current strategy. Today less than 30 percent of Americans support the war and only 11 percent support the President's plan to increase troop levels in Iraq. A February 2006 poll showed that 72 percent of American troops serving in Iraq believed U.S. should exit Iraq within the year and 42 percent said their mission was unclear.
Wars cannot be won with slogans. There must be terms for measuring progress and a clearly defined purpose, if success is ever to be achieved. General Peter Schoomaker, Chief of the United States Army, said in a recent hearing that in order for a strategy to be effective we "have to be able to measure the purpose." Yet the President sets forth a plan with no defined matrices for measuring success and a plan that in my estimation is simply more of the same plan that has not worked. A new strategy that is based on redeployment rather than further U.S. military engagement, and one that is centered on handing Iraq back to the Iraqis, is what is needed. I do not believe that Iraq will make the political progress necessary for its security and stability until U.S. forces redeploy.
In order to achieve stability in Iraq and the Region, I recommend
1) The redeployment of U.S. forces from Iraq
2) The execution of a robust diplomatic effort and the restoration of our international credibility
3) The repairing of our military readiness and the rebuilding of our strategic reserve to face future threats.
Redeployment of U.S. forces from Iraq
To achieve stability and security in Iraq, I believe we first must have a responsible phased redeployment of U.S. forces from Iraq. General William Odom (U.S. Army, Retired) recently testified, "We are pursuing the wrong war."
Stability and security in the Region should be our overarching strategy, not a "victory in Iraq." I agree with General Odom and believe that Regional Stability can only be accomplished through the redeployment of U.S. forces from Iraq.
Who wants us to stay in Iraq? In my opinion, Iran and Al Qaeda, because we intensify the very radical extremism we claim to be fighting against, while at the same time depleting our financial and human resources.
As long as the U.S. military continues to occupy Iraq, there will be no real security. Maintaining U.S. troop strength in Iraq or adding to the strength in specified areas, has not proven effective in the past (it did not work recently in Baghdad) nor do I believe it will work in the future. The Iraq war cannot be won by the U.S. military, predominantly because of the way our military operates. They use overwhelming force, which I advocate to save American lives, but it is counter to winning the hearts and minds of the people.
How to Re-deploy
I recommend the phased redeployment of U.S. forces, first from Saddam's palaces, then from the green zone. Next, from the prime real estate of Iraq's major cities, out of the factories and universities, and finally out of the country all together. We need to give communities back to the Iraqis so they can begin to self govern, begin economic recovery and return to some type of normality. I recommend the adoption of a U.S policy that encourages and rewards reconstruction and regional investment and one that is dictated and administered not by the United States, but by the Iraqis themselves.
Restoration of International Credibility
I believe that a responsible redeployment from Iraq is the first step necessary in restoring our tarnished international credibility. Since the U.S. invasion of Iraq, our international credibility, even among allies, has plummeted. Stability in Iraq is important not only to the United States, but it is important to the Region and to the entire world. Just this morning, the BBC released a poll showing that nearly three-quarters of those polled in 25 countries disapprove of U.S. policies toward Iraq. More than two-thirds said the U.S. military presence in the Middle East does more harm than good. Just 29 percent of respondents said the United States has a general positive influence in the world, down from 40 percent two years ago.
How do we Restore our International Credibility
In order to restore international credibility, I believe it is necessary for the U.S to completely denounce any aspirations of building permanent U.S. military bases in Iraq; I believe we should shut down the Guantanamo detention facility; and we must bulldoze the Abu Ghraib prison. We must clearly articulate and demonstrate a policy of "no torture, no exceptions" and directly engage countries in the region with dialogue instead of directives. This includes allies as well as our perceived adversaries.
Repairing of our Military Readiness and Rebuilding our Strategic Reserve to Face Future Threats
Our annual Defense spending budget is currently in excess of $450 billion. Above this amount, we are spending $8.4 billion dollars a month in the war in Iraq and yet our strategic reserve is in desperate shape. While we are fighting an asymmetric threat in the short term, we have weakened our ability to respond to what I believe is a grave long term conventional and nuclear threat.
At the beginning of the Iraq war, 80 percent of ALL Army units and almost 100 percent of active combat units were rated at the highest state of readiness. Today, virtually all of our active-duty combat units at home and ALL of our guard units are at the lowest state of readiness, primarily due to equipment shortages resulting from repeated and extended deployments to Iraq. In recent testimony given by a high ranking Pentagon official it was reported that our country is threatened because we lack readiness at home.
Our Army has no strategic reserve, and while it is true that the U.S. Navy and the U.S. Air Force can be used to project power, there is a limit to what they can achieve. Overall, our military remains capable of projecting power, but we must also be able to sustain that projection, and in this regard there is no replacement for boots on the ground.
How do we Repair Readiness and Rebuild our Strategic Reserve
We must make it a national priority to re-strengthen our military and to repair readiness. I advocate an increase in overall troop strength. The current authorized level is below what I believe is needed to maintain an optimal military. In recent testimony to the Defense Subcommittee that I chair, the Army and Marine Corps Commanders testified that they could not continue to sustain the current deployment practices without an adverse effect on the health and well-being of service members and their families.
For decades, the Army operated on a deployment policy that for every one year of deployment, two years were spent at home. This was considered optimal for re-training, re-equipping and re-constituting. Without relief, the Army will be forced to extend deployments to Iraq to over one year in country and will be forced to send troops back with less than one year at home. The Army reported that a 9-month deployment was preferable. Medical experts testified that in intensive combat, deployments of over 3 months increased the likelihood for service members to develop post traumatic stress disorders.
We must invest in the health and well being of our service members by providing for the right amount of troops and for appropriate deployment and rotation cycles.
Our military equipment inventories are unacceptably low. The Services report that at least $100 billion more is needed to get them back to ready state. In doing so, we must not neglect investment in military technologies of the future. While we remain bogged down in Iraq, the size and sophistication of other militaries are growing. We must not lose our capability to deter future threats.
Let me conclude by saying historically, whether it was India, Algeria or Afghanistan, foreign occupations do not work, and in fact incite civil unrest. Our military remains the greatest military in the world, but there are limits to its ability to control a population that considers them occupiers. I have said this before and I continue to say that there are essentially only two plans. One is to continue an occupation that has not worked and that has shown no progress toward stabilization. The other, which I advocate, is to end the occupation of Iraq, redeploy and re-strengthen our military and turn Iraq over to the Iraqis.
Our annual Defense spending budget is currently in excess of $450 billion. Above this amount, we are spending $8.4 billion dollars a month in the war in Iraq and yet our strategic reserve is in desperate shape. While we are fighting an asymmetric threat in the short term, we have weakened our ability to respond to what I believe is a grave long term conventional and nuclear threat.
These are almost the exact words of defense industry lobbyists. It's the key to why Murtha is anti-war in Iraq.
Agreed, Red. Murtha is a corrupt old fraud. He's been corrupt his entire political career and if he can increase his political power by selling out our country or our military he won't hesitate to do it.
I noticed he didn't say anything to the SFR Committee about where to redeploy to, like Okinawa? He's also a senile old fool, I sure hope he lurks here.
Do you know if the cross exam of the three NCIS agents in the Lt. Phan case will be open to the public on Jan. 25?
Good Lord! From what I've read here and on the NCIS website it seems as though they have free reign with no holds barred or restrictions on how they get their information. Their tactics are more what you'd expect in an old Soviet Union, German, Japanese or Vietnam POW camp. The general public need to be educated on what's going on but won't hold my breath waiting for the MSM to do anything about it. I guess once again it's up to us to put metal to the pedal and do the MSM's work for them via our own lists and address books. Thanks for the ping and heads up RedRover.
You better start slathering on the Vicks, buster. Chest, neck. I don't like the sound of this.
Any possibility you could attend? Otherwise, I'll be checking the North County Times website all afternoon!
Oh, Justa? If you've been holding out on ma and me about connections to the WH, you'll have some 'splaining to do, young lady!
Well, well. Slap a hat on yer head and cruise thru here a while.
Michael G. Gelles, PsyD
http://www.webster.edu/peacepsychology/tfpens.html
http://www.webster.edu/peacepsychology/index.html
Do we have another none huffingtonpost link for this?
Neither do I. Hopefully I will feel up to the late shift tommorow. At least I won't have to get up to early.
This is my favorite, Red.
"Our military equipment inventories are unacceptably low. The Services report that at least $100 billion more is needed to get them back to ready state. In doing so, we must not neglect investment in military technologies of the future. While we remain bogged down in Iraq, the size and sophistication of other militaries are growing. We must not lose our capability to deter future threats."
Murtha blogs at Huff'n'puff so that's the only one I can find. It'll be up (I'm sure) at his Congressional website soon.
Yeah, I finally went in an linked it. I was hoping not to send ppl to that site... Well maybe by the time I am done someone else will have done it for me!!!!
I can hope can't I!
Red's looking for someone to report the cross exam of the three NCIS agents in the Lt. Phan case on Jan. 25 (if it's open to the public).
Does she have a camper hooked up to that outlet outside the West Wing again?
Well, and here I am running you ragged from one thread to another. Vicks on your chest, rub a handkerchief in it and tie it around your face (loosely : ) before you go to sleep.
Wonder if they let her in to go tee-tee.
Yes, that jumped out to me as well, but after a little more reading I don't think it's as inflammatory as it sounds. Here's a link to salon archives (did a search on michael gelles and apa).
http://archive.salon.com/news/feature/2006/08/04/apa/index1.html
I think APA is/was having an internal argument on psychologists being involved in gov't activities, especially techniques used to interrogate detainees. But, too many APA psycholigists are dependent on gov't funding/jobs, so they included people like Michael Gelles in reviews like this one to provide cover.
However, Michael Gelles was instrumental in getting the interrogation techniques watered down after reviewing interrogations logs from Gitmo Bay. He warned of "force drift", meaning that these techniques may be picked up to US detriment in other areas of our forces. And ta-da, Abu Ghraib happened and he was taken more seriously.
Sorry this is so run-on; what I've found out is he came to NCIS in 91. The Daniel King case happened in 99/00 and formal charges againt him should have been filed with the APA, but by late 2002 he was vigorously objecting to detainee treatment, as the NCIS head psychologist.
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