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NCIS Exposed:Criminals, Thugs, and Liars Bringing Down Marines
Defend Our Marines ^ | January 20, 2007 | David Allender

Posted on 01/20/2007 7:46:41 PM PST by RedRover

The Haditha Marine case, with its leaks of false information including, possibly, tidbits of confessions, has a recent parallel.

Remember the case of Petty Officer Daniel M. King? You don’t?

Evidently, neither does the Washington Post, Associated Press, National Public Radio, and the rest of the media that repeats every NCIS rumor as gospel. This is surprising because it wasn't that long ago that the NCIS lied to them all.

It was the Daniel M. King case, a few short years ago, that should make everyone suspicious of every leak, and every media report, in the Haditha Marines case.

Petty Officer King was a Navy cryptanalyst: Cryptologist Technician (Collection) First Class (CTR1). He was arrested in 1999 on suspicion of espionage, and was summarily stripped of all his rights as a citizen of this country.

NCIS agents administered a polygraph test. It is possible that the agents were not properly trained. In any event, Daniel King’s polygraph was ruled “inconclusive”. At the same time, no hard evidence was found to back up the charge. So the NCIS agents needed a confession.

Petty Officer King was detained by and subjected to a torturous interrogation that lasted over 26 days for 19 to 20 hours at a time.

At a Congressional hearing, attorney Jonathan Turley would testify, “The NCIS manufactured a theory of espionage without foundation and then took steps to compel statements to support that theory. The tapes and evidence secured by the defense in this case reveal agents seeking a trophy not the truth.”

At the same hearing, Lieutenant Robert A. Bailey (JAG, US Naval Reserve), stated:

“The conduct of NCIS agents in this case was nothing short of shocking. Independent reviewers have stated that their techniques were barbaric….

That such conduct occurred at the hands of NCIS is not surprising….Indeed, such conduct is predictable based on the training and guidance manual published by the NCIS.

According to the NCIS Manual, Chapter 14 - Interrogations, any person who adamantly denies any wrongdoing and points to his clean record is "subconsciously confessing."

If a confused suspect asks what is going to happen to him, the NCIS believes this is an indication that he "is beginning a confession."

Additionally, agents are to convey the idea that they will "persist as long as required to resolve the issue under investigation" and that they "will not give up the interrogation."….

[Petty Officer] King's only recourse was to confess to a crime he did not commit in the hopes that he would eventually receive a lawyer and the truth would come out.”

Finally, the truth did come out--despite the efforts of the NCIS. Petty Officer King was not a spy.

He was released in March 2001 after a hellish 520 days in confinement. Confinement in "Special Quarters," the equivalent to maximum security lock-down condition in which he spent approximately 20 hours a day in a six-foot by nine-foot cell.

Today, the NCIS is continuing the same criminal behavior of coercing confessions and ignoring rules and ethics in pursuit of its target. You haven't been reminded of this story in the mainstream media. But the truth is there for anyone willing to look. It's all right here at Documents in the Case of US v. Daniel M. King .

Spreading the word can be an act of patriotism. If the truth stays secret, the very worst of men will bring down our nation's very best.


TOPICS: Military/Veterans
KEYWORDS: danielking; danking; defendourmarines; haditha; king; ncis
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81 posted on 01/22/2007 6:55:12 PM PST by freema (Marine FRiend, 1stCuz2xRemoved, Mom, Aunt, Sister, Friend, Wife, Daughter, Niece)
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To: freema

Well I sure am glad she can eat again. Imagine what a change in appetite the Marines have with their induced ulcers from pip squeaks like that....just me thinking out loud.


82 posted on 01/22/2007 7:09:31 PM PST by lilycicero (I believe SSGT Wuterich did his job well.)
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To: lilycicero

Don't get me going, lil, I'm just getting my mad heated up. Don't want to blow a gasket ; )






and I've gotta go hit the hay. zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
Sleep tight and don't let the prosecutors bite.


83 posted on 01/22/2007 7:12:12 PM PST by freema (Marine FRiend, 1stCuz2xRemoved, Mom, Aunt, Sister, Friend, Wife, Daughter, Niece)
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To: freema

Chill freema chill...go to your happy place, do the happy dance and we will see you tomorrow! Sweet dreams.


84 posted on 01/22/2007 7:19:26 PM PST by lilycicero (I believe SSGT Wuterich did his job well.)
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To: freema
In the Girouard case [101st Airborne], the agent who interrogated him spent half the interview with her hand on his thigh, or with her arms around him, telling him she was "there for him," and trying to use her femininity to get him to "confess."

The quote above was from Kit in her post yesterday. The NCIS has a whole cadre of Agent Barbies.

85 posted on 01/22/2007 7:50:47 PM PST by RedRover (They are not killers. Defend our Marines.)
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To: lilycicero

Night, Lil! Time to put your Kelly Garbo Action Figure away and hit the hay!


86 posted on 01/22/2007 8:00:44 PM PST by RedRover (They are not killers. Defend our Marines.)
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To: RedRover

GI JOE put "Garbonzo" action doll on latrine duty until she can recite the proper investigation techniques.

Tune in tomorrow and we will have Woody Harelson sing his "KELLY KELLY KELLY" song from Cheers.


87 posted on 01/22/2007 8:55:49 PM PST by lilycicero (I believe SSGT Wuterich did his job well.)
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To: RedRover

The NCIS investigator's name is James Connolly (not Connelly).

http://www.nctimes.com/articles/2006/09/13/news/top_stories/3_02_209_12_06.txt


88 posted on 01/22/2007 9:37:21 PM PST by Girlene
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To: RedRover; lilycicero

RED. You make it very difficult for me.

What manual do you think the guys gave HER to read?

: )


89 posted on 01/23/2007 2:28:12 AM PST by freema (Marine FRiend, 1stCuz2xRemoved, Mom, Aunt, Sister, Friend, Wife, Daughter, Niece)
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To: Girlene

Thanks for the correction, Girlene. I never thought to check a variant spelling of the last name in searches.


90 posted on 01/23/2007 2:41:59 AM PST by RedRover (They are not killers. Defend our Marines.)
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To: freema
Well, it could have been THE DUMMIES GUIDE TO BEING A SUPER-DUPER NCIS AGENT but I kind of doubt it.

It was probably something with a few more pictures. ;)

91 posted on 01/23/2007 4:03:03 AM PST by RedRover (They are not killers. Defend our Marines.)
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To: Girlene; pinkpanther111; lilycicero
Girlene, I'm starting to compile these names to keep track of who's who.

BTW, when I spoke to flightline, he mentioned his frustration with getting media to pay attention to this story.

The one encouraging sign lately was the NY Times running the story about Col. Steel. Wonder how the Times got the information? It sure would help to have a leaker on the side of the good guys.

92 posted on 01/23/2007 5:01:16 AM PST by RedRover (They are not killers. Defend our Marines.)
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To: pinkpanther111; freema
"...i STILL do get it."
A few days of head and chest cold, and weakness, can't go to work, have prevented me from responding to folks. I hardly got the energy to read the sometime long postings.
93 posted on 01/23/2007 7:04:04 AM PST by Marine_Uncle
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To: RedRover

Not to throw anyone off, but I found this bit of info regarding the NCIS psychologist, Michael Gelles involved in the King case. Seems that Dr. Gelles was instrumental in exposing interrogation techniques of detainees at Gitmo Bay. From the Boston Globe:

http://www.boston.com/news/nation/washington/articles/2005/03/16/abuse_led_navy_to_consider_pulling_cuba_interrogators/
"A top Navy psychologist reported to his supervisor in December 2002 that interrogators at Guantanamo were starting to use ''abusive techniques." "....."Specifically, the chain of events began when Dr. Michael Gelles, the chief psychologist of the Navy Criminal Investigative Service, or NCIS, completed a study of Guantanamo interrogations in December 2003 that included extracts of interrogation logs. Gelles reported to the service director, David Brant, that interrogators were using ''abusive techniques and coercive psychological procedures." (I think they meant december, 2002, here)

Remembering back to 2001 in Turley's prepared statement to the Senate panel regarding the Daniel King spy investigation.

http://www.freerepublic.com/perl/post?id=1770991%2C92

"25 Dr. Gelles has already been notified of our intention to file formal charges against him with the American Psychological Association. Dr. Gelles has refused to give licensing information to the defense or to respond to allegations of violation of basic canons of professional conduct as a licensed psychologist. Dr. Gelles is on the videotape telling an individual with stated suicidal thoughts to return to interrogation and that the agents are not only his close friends but that they would stand with him "forever." Dr. Gelles specifically tells King that, if he offers "corroborating" evidence to the NCIS, he might be able to give King the hypnosis that he seeks."

I guess nothing happened to Dr. Gelles from the Daniel King investigation.


94 posted on 01/23/2007 7:44:03 AM PST by Girlene
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To: Girlene

Interesting.


95 posted on 01/23/2007 8:31:47 AM PST by lilycicero (I believe SSGT Wuterich did his job well.)
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To: Marine_Uncle

eeekkk.. I STILL DON'T get it... Sorry!


96 posted on 01/23/2007 8:33:17 AM PST by pinkpanther111 (They were doing their jobs!!! Defend our Marines)
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To: Girlene; lilycicero; pinkpanther111
Great find again, Girlene.

And the connection highlights the fact that we're poking at a pretty giant-size can of worms.

I believe the can-of-worms aspect is one reason the conservative media has not picked up on the story of NCIS abuse of our servicemen.

Not too long ago, for instance, I heard O'Reilly defend Gitmo and military tribunals on the basis that everyone could trust the military justice system. Chipping away at the NCIS leads to much bigger questions. And not everyone who should be on our side (the likes of O'Reilly and Hannity) will be comfortable with where those questions lead.

Personally, my feeling is to keep poking, no matter what, because innocent young servicemen are going to end up in the slammer. But you guys should be aware, if you're not already, that even posing these larger issues will meet with real hostility from many on FR.

97 posted on 01/23/2007 9:11:57 AM PST by RedRover (They are not killers. Defend our Marines.)
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To: RedRover

Well I hope the Freepers who hold hostility to this thread will find that we are only against the agents who are rotten to the "CORPS".


98 posted on 01/23/2007 10:49:08 AM PST by lilycicero (I believe SSGT Wuterich did his job well.)
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To: lilycicero

Bump.


99 posted on 01/23/2007 10:51:03 AM PST by RedRover (They are not killers. Defend our Marines.)
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To: lilycicero

Homepage back to normal!


100 posted on 01/23/2007 1:50:41 PM PST by RedRover (They are not killers. Defend our Marines.)
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