Posted on 10/07/2006 7:40:10 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach
John Aravosis is yapping up a storm, and letting out details he doesn’t quite comprehend are (a) not common knowledge and (b) implicate him as working to orchestrate Foleygate in the media. It is important to note all the activity in July of 2006 regarding the non-salacious emails between Foley and a Page from Louisianna (aka, the LA Page). I have done numerous posts on these emails (the last one here with back referencing links). Reader TopSecretK9 as reminded me of this Aravosis comment when he admitted in October that he had the Foley Emails in July and mentioned he had done nothing after talking to CREW. She found this recent Aravosis post which tipped some more information out:
When I received the Foley emails this past July, had I been warned two or three years ago that Foley was stalking pages, I’d have turned the emails over to the FBI myself, not waiting for CREW to do it (which was shortly after I received them anyway)
(Excerpt) Read more at strata-sphere.com ...
* Joseph Biden : CREW has been active only since February [2003] , so its profile is still relatively low. Yet Republicans detect a strong Democratic orientation.[Melanie] Sloan, most recently an assistant U.S. attorney for the District of Columbia, is a former aide to Sen. Joseph Biden, D-Del.; then-Rep. (now Sen.) Charles Schumer, D- N.Y.; and Rep. John Conyers, D-Mich...... -------http://www.citizensforethics.org/news/20030719_natljrnl.php via 10 posted on 01/28/2004 10:52:10 AM PST by jimbo123
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In 1993, Ms. Sloan served as Nominations Counsel to the Senate Judiciary Committee, under then Chairman, Senator Joe Biden, where she researched the backgrounds of nominees to high level Department of Justice positions and to the federal courts. --------11 posted on 01/28/2004 10:54:52 AM PST by jimbo123 )
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NOVEMBER late - early DECEMBER 2003 : (JOE BIDEN MEETS WITH FRENCH LEADER CHIRAC) Is he saying that Joe Biden is going around the world talking to world leaders about getting Bush out of office?
Joe Biden had a private meeting with Chriac back in late Nov, early Dec. I made some posts about it then.
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CREW's executive director Melanie Sloan stated "Despite evidence to the contrary, the Bush Administration has repeatedly claimed that it has nothing to do with SBVT or its ads. If this is true, then the White House should have no qualms about releasing information regarding any contacts between White House officials and those connected with SBVT."
I am adding names to ( hopefully a ping list that won't last very long) ******let me know if you prefer not getting pings ....
NOVEMBER end - DECEMBER 2003 : (GENEVA, SWITZERLAND : "GENEVA PEACE FEST" TALKS ON MIDEAST PEACE-- See RICHARD REYFUSS & JIMMY CARTER- [Did BIDEN visit here, too?) A familiar roster of revered retirees, unemployables and butt-of-the-joke losers - plus an Oscar-winner who undisputedly did not deserve that honor - gathered in Geneva this week to talk to themselves. The subject of the confab was Mideast peace. Easy to get. Easy to keep. Golly, why didn't someone think of this before? So what if generations of politicians, diplomats and religious leaders have tried and failed to broker a permanent end to hostilities?
You know the planet is in capable hands when the master of ceremonies of foreign relations, lured from semi-retirement to star in the Geneva Peace Fest, is none other than Richard Dreyfuss - the hack who beat Richard Burton as best actor for his role in 1977's "The Goodbye Girl," before graduating to play Scoop the Snowman in "Rudolph the Red-Nosed Reindeer and the Island of Misfit Toys."
Dreyfuss was joined in Geneva by ex-President Jimmy Carter, a Nobel Peace Prize winner who these days also suffers from a serious excess of free time.
...But it was Carter, who's hidden his sharp teeth behind an aw-shucks smirk for far more years than he allowed American hostages to be held captive in Iran, who gave voice to the true message behind the so-called "Geneva Initiative."
Carter put the blame for Mideast terrorism - and that would include attacks such as those on the World Trade Center and Pentagon - not on the shoulders of the Islamofascists. He unequivocally blamed President Bush.
"The present administration in Washington has been invariably supportive of Israel, and the well-being of the Palestinian people has been ignored or relegated to secondary importance," Carter declared. "Without a resurrection of strong and unbiased American influence, Israeli and Palestinian extremists will prevail.
"There is no doubt that the lack of real effort to resolve the Palestinian issue is a primary source of anti-American sentiment through the Middle East and a major incentive for terrorist activity."
Carter, who failed at achieving peace, joins the Hollywood chorus that looks the other way at Islamic atrocities, while advancing the fiction that selling out Israel will stop the carnage. And now he has an audience.
------(Excerpt) Read more at nypost.com ...------ "ALLIANCE OF ARROGANCE GATHERS FOR SWISS SUMMIT," (Peanut Farmer Blathering), by ANDREA PEYSER, New York Post, 12/02/03
CREW's three board members are Mark Penn, President Clinton's former pollster; Daniel Berger, a trial lawyer from Philadelphia and a Clinton fundraiser; and Louis Mayberg, the president of a mutual fund company. ...10 posted on 01/28/2004 10:52:10 AM PST by jimbo123 --http://www.citizensforethics.org/news/20030719_natljrnl.php via 10 posted on 01/28/2004 10:52:10 AM PST by jimbo12
CREW's boardmember Daniel Berger donated $100,000 to the group "America Coming Together" in May 2004 and $13,750 to the Democrat Senatorial Campaign Committee in June 2004 according to The Hill in March 30, 2005
Is that Swift Boats?
ACT is simply one of 33 member organizations under the umbrella of Cecile Richards’ group "America Votes"
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Swift Vets and POWs for Truth - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
| Several of those who joined SBVT during the 2004 campaign were officers who ... SBVT founder and spokesman John O'Neill wrote Unfit for Command: Swift Boat ... en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swift_Vets_and_POWs_for_Truth - 118k - Oct 6, 2006 - |
YEP- they went after the Swifties in 2004 in spite of their own org being even more in collusion with their candidate Kerry- their campaign seems to consist of an endless litany of FOIA and lawsuits or just threats of lawsuits which are apparently intended to do little more than gather information for their databases and to create a sense of "where there's smoke, there's fire" or in other words, "where there's lawsuits there is guilt." They don't even have to pretend to have valid reasons for any attack- the attack itself is the gob of mud they want to tag people and groups with- if they get lucky and can make a case so much the better but the point isn't to actually find corruption. NO need for that when all they have to do is IMPLY it.
http://americablog.blogspot.com/2006/09/gop-congressman-admits-to-says-nothing.html
John Aravosis is a Washington DC-based writer and political consultant, specializing in using the Internet for political advocacy. He is the creator of StopDrLaura.com, Matthew Shepard Online Resources, and DearMary.com, among other activist Web sites.
John has a joint law degree and masters in foreign service from Georgetown, where he studied under former Secretary of State Madeleine Albright. He is an avid writer, and in addition to writing THE LIST, he has worked as a stringer for the Economist magazine, and for years was the US Politics Guide at About.com.
John's policy experience includes stints in the US Senate, the World Bank, and the Children's Defense Fund. John is also an occasional TV pundit, having appeared on The O'Reilly Factor, Hardball with Chris Matthews, ABCNews World News Tonight, CNN, Court TV, and more. John speaks five languages and has visited or worked in 28 countries.
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More Updates Regarding Email Timeline and House Staff Names
Updates will be in bold as more details come in
Here is a fairly complete and accurate timeline on Foleygate compiled by AP. The key missing elements are the claims by Aravosis and Rogers on when they were attmepting to basically blackmail Fordham and when they got Fordham to ‘out’ Foley (their claims Fordham denies). We also need to add the July 28th appearance of the mystery website and the KoS commenter WHintern’s postings about Foley. So here is the more complete version from sources around the net such as Gateway Pundit and Mac Ranger and Radar On Line [additions from blog reporting entries and modifications in italics:
- June 1997: Foley, a Florida Republican, reportedly writes sexually explicit instant messages to male ex-House Page Tyson Vivyan, who keeps the contacts a secret as he fends off Foley’s advances. Vivyan was 17 when the contacts begin, with the anonymous Foley making contact with Vivyan through Vivyan’s AOL account. [Note: corrected month from July to June].
- 1998, 2000, 2002: Three new claims of sexual approaches by Foley towards ex-Pages between 17-18 years old as reported by ABC News.
- 2003: Foley reportedly writes sexually explicit instant messages to a male House page. Reporting shows this may be contact with an ex-Page right around his 18th birthday.
- May 2003: Foley faces questions about his sexual orientation as he prepares to run for a Senate seat in Florida. He later drops out of the race.
- Before January 2004: Foley’s chief of staff, Kirk Fordham, [allegedly] has conversations with senior aides in House Speaker Dennis Hastert’s office “asking them to intervene” to address Foley’s inappropriate behavior toward pages, according to Fordham.
- January 2004: Fordham leaves Foley’s office.
- July 2004: John Aravosis claims Fordham was his source for outing Rep Foley as a gay (which possibly ended his Senate run).
- July 2004: Mike Rogers posts an open letter to Fordham demanding he explain why he is supporting Mel Martinez.
- March 2005: Mike Rogers posts a rant against Foley which includes claims of Foley’s misbehavior with young men and predicts a big political scandal preceding the 2006 elections.
- July 29, 2005: Folely makes first email contact with the Page from Louisianna, which makes the Page uncomfortable after some other emails (the other emails are not dated).
- Aug 29, 2005: Hurricane Katrina hits LA.
- Aug 30-31, 2005: Louisianna Page contacts House Staffer (now known to be Daniellle Savoy working for LA Rep Rodney Alexander) regarding Foley’s overtures, supposedly passes on email at this time.
- Sep 13, 2005: Foley emails to LA Page are printed off by someone, these will be sent to CREW in May of 2006 via Fax. Will also end up at ABC News at sometime in July-August 2006.
- Oct 17, 2005: Email exchange between LA Page and House Staffer (Ms Savoy) are printed off by someone, these will be sent to CREW in May of 2006 via Fax. Will also end up at ABC News at sometime in July-August 2006.
- Detailed, more accurate timeline of events created above
Fall 2005: A former page contacts the office of his sponsor, Rep. Rodney Alexander, R-La., about e-mails he had received from Foley that asked about the boy’s age, then 16, and his birthday. Foley in one e-mail also requested a photo of the page.- Fall 2005: Alexander’s chief of staff calls House Speaker Dennis Hastert’s office about the e-mail exchange. Alexander’s aide declines to show the message to Hastert’s staff and to the clerk of the House, who administers the page program, but says it is not of a sexual nature and that the family simply wants the contact to stop. Hastert said last week he was not aware of “a different set of communications which were sexually explicit … which Mr. Foley reportedly sent another former page or pages.”
- Replaced by more accurate timeframe (November) in item below
The clerk and Rep. John Shimkus, R-Ill., meet with Foley, who assures them he was only acting as a mentor to the boy. Shimkus, who chairs a House board that oversees the page program, orders Foley to cease contact with the boy and Foley agrees.- Fordham, Foley’s former chief of staff, begins serving in the same capacity for Rep. Tom Reynolds, R-N.Y., chairman of the House Republican Campaign Committee.
- 10/17/05 - 11/30/05: Possible window for the leak of the emails to a man who then passes them around to news media outlets
- November 2005: Rep Shimkus and House Clerk Tandhal confront Foley with the emails, probably printed out from Alexander’s office, probably redacted to protect the Louisianna Page’s identity, and probably the version leaked to someone who shopped them to the news media.
- November 2005: The St. Petersburg Times says it assigned two reporters to investigate after being given copies of the e-mail exchange with the Louisiana teenager. The paper said Saturday it decided not to publish at the time because of the seriousness of what would be implied and because the boy and the family would not go on the record. The Miami Herald says it, too, had a copy of the e-mail but decided not to go public because the message was not sexually explicit and was subject to interpretation.
- Spring 2006: Alexander mentions the Foley situation to House Majority Leader John Boehner, R-Ohio. Alexander says Boehner refers him to Reynolds. Both Boehner and Reynolds say they talk with Hastert about it. Boehner quotes Hastert as telling him the Louisiana page’s complaint “had been taken care of.” Hastert says later he doesn’t recall the meeting with Boehner and the speaker’s staff says he did not learn of it until much later.
- May 29, 2006: CREW receives the Foley communications between the LA Page and Hill Staffer, as well as the Foley emails - via Fax. [There may have been contact with CREW earlier in April according to the FBI].
- July 2006: Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics in Washington [CREW], a liberal leaning watchdog group, obtains copies of Foley’s e-mails and gives them to the FBI. The FBI says later the initial group of e-mails did not rise to the level of a federal offense.
- July 2006: The mysterious website stopsexpredators.blogspot.com is created and begins innocuous and minor postings on July 28th.
- July 2006: John Aravosis receives copies of the emails from someone, and was at the time informed CREW had the emails and had submitted them to the FBI - making it likely he and CREW had the same source. H/T Flopping Aces.
- August 2006: Brian Ross claims he firsts has access to the less worrisome emails and is too busy to deal with them (though one could read his claim as being to busy with Katrina as Fall of 2005).
- Sept 05: Commenter WHInternNow posts at DailyKOS prescient comments about Foley and his acts with “young boys” - apparently the first to really break the story - before the website sighted as the original source.
- Sept 21: Website Stop Sex Predators posts on emails supposedly coming into the site from people with stories about Mark Foley.
- Sept. 24: Website Stop Sex Predators posts scans of the innocuous emails from Foley to the 16 year old Page which was the focus of activity back in the fall of 2005. Supposedly only a few people in Congress and the new media have access to these emails at this point in time.
- A whole 12 minutes after the website posts the scans, WHInternNow is back posting the news at DailyKOS. With limited readership at the site one wonders at how quickly WHInternNow found the scanned emails.
- Sept. 28: ABC News reports on the e-mail exchange with the Louisiana teenager. Foley’s Democratic challenger, Tim Mahoney, calls for an investigation into the exchange.
- Sept 28: John Aravosis posts his reaction to the news and admits he had the emails “several months ago”, which times in well with the July submission of the emails by CREW to the FBI.
- Sept. 29: Revelations emerge of sexually explicit instant messages Foley sent in 2003 to former pages. Foley resigns. The House votes to refer the matter to the ethics committee.
- Sept. 29: Mike Rogers posts on the DCCC website congragulations on taking his Foley lead and running with it. His comments are summarily deleted from the DCCC website but Rogers posts them on his site to gloat.
- Sept. 30: Hastert says he is setting up a hot line for current and former pages and their families to report problems about the page program.
- Sept. 30: Hastert’s office releases the results of their preliminary review of events.
- Oct. 1: Hastert writes a letter to Attorney General Alberto Gonzales asking for an investigation of Foley’s conduct. Hastert writes a similar letter to Florida Gov. Jeb Bush. An FBI spokesman confirms the agency is “conducting an assessment to see if there’s been a violation of federal law.”
- Oct. 2: Foley’s attorney, David Roth, says the former congressman is battling alcoholism and has checked into a rehabilitation facility.
- Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics in Washington asks the Justice Department to investigate why the Foley e-mails they gave the FBI were not pursued.
- Oct. 3: The Washington Times calls in an editorial for Hastert to resign as speaker. Hastert says he won’t resign. President Bush says he supports Hastert’s call for an investigation and says he was “shocked and dismayed” at Foley’s behavior. Boehner talks about conferring with Hastert in the spring about Foley.
- Roth says at a news conference in West Palm Beach, Fla., that Foley was molested as a child by a member of the clergy but had never had sexual contact with a minor. He says Foley asked him to reveal publicly that Foley is gay.
- Oct. 4: Fordham announces he is resigning as Reynolds’ chief of staff and tells The Associated Press he had conversations with House leadership about Foley’s behavior prior to January 2004.
- The Justice Department orders the House to preserve Foley’s official computer files. A law enforcement official who spoke on condition of anonymity because of the ongoing investigation says that FBI agents are interviewing participants in the House page program.
- The Florida Department of Law Enforcement confirms that it has begun its own preliminary inquiry into Foley’s e-mail contacts with House pages.
- Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz., calls for a group of former senators and others to investigate how the House handled the Foley matter.
- Oct 6: Drudge breaks the news that the sallacious IM messages from 2003 involving Jordan Edmund are not real, were a prank, and landed in the hands of Democrat operatives which set up the fake scandal.
If I missed some key event please let me know in the comments and I will add it. I believe there were more times when Rogers gloated. But one can see there was a lot of activity right around the time the story was timed to break - and before it did so!
Too bad there wasn't a big EMP [electro magnetic pulse] to throw at them- our little pajama clad EMPs will have to do.
MAN what a blizzard of names and organizations......thanks....
Wonder who maintains ACT's databases now?
ACT was launched by Soros-connected Steve Rosenthal; it went defunct in August 2005 when Soros pulled the money after Kerry's loss.
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