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Superman did a conservative message sneak in? (Warning: Full of Spoilers)

Posted on 06/28/2006 7:06:21 PM PDT by Sentis

Alot of people are harping on the Liberal undertones of the new Superman movie. I see something else. I see conservative values creeping into Hollywood.

This Lois is no slut. She has been getting knocked around for being an unwed mother but lets look at the facts of the story. In Superman 2 Lois and Clark get married and have sex while he is human. Lois' memory of those events are wiped clean and Superman leaves (Superman 3&4 never happened). Ok Lois ends up pregnant and the man that made her that way is gone. What does she do? Does she run out and get on welfare? No she finds a man and gets engaged Thats the right thing to do. When Superman comes back does she just throw away the fiancee that has raised her son and jump into Superman's arms like he wants her to do. No, she calls her fiancee a good man and for the sake of her son stays with a man she does not love as much as she loves superman. My GOD that is a conservative value. Everyone attacking this movie for Lois having a child out of wedlock are wrong.

Now Superman going off to Krypton for ficve years and leaving Lois. If you were the last person alive and you thought just maybe you could find more people would you go look. What happened in Superman 2 convinced Clark he could never be with Lois (although he has changed his mind since) so he goes and looks for others like him.

I could not tell if the filmmaker was making this a Christian Allegory or mocking Christian allegories. There is so much of the religious in this movie.

Superman tells Lois at one point. "You said the world doesn't need salvation but why do I hear the world calling out for a savior."

There is the scene about the Father being the Son and the Son being the Father.

The scene where Superman is stabbed in his side and his beating were straight out of the passion.

There is just scene after scene where Superman is shown as a Christ figure and it isn't a mistake these things are there intentionally. Despite the fact that this was made by serious leftists and religion haters I felt a very religious reaction to the movie. I think maybe the film maker tried to mock Christ and in doing so created a movie that really uplifts. Much like Lion the witch and the wardrobe is allegory the story seems so right.


TOPICS: TV/Movies
KEYWORDS: alotis2words; antiamerican; correct; feminism; mother; moviereview; notnews; pc; political; single; superman; supermanreturns; wrongforum
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1 posted on 06/28/2006 7:06:27 PM PDT by Sentis
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To: Sentis

All I know is that my husband was furious when he found out that in the beginning of this movie, when they were supposed to say FIGHTING FOR TRUTH, JUSTICE, AND THE AMERICAN WAY, the left out "THE AMERICAN WAY." He said he'll never go see this movie.


2 posted on 06/28/2006 7:07:57 PM PDT by Hildy (Change calls the tune we dance to.)
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To: Sentis

Sold - I will have to check it out now.


3 posted on 06/28/2006 7:08:32 PM PDT by The_Republican (So Dark The Con of Man)
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To: Hildy

Well did you expect Perry White Editor of the Daily Planet (The New York times) to say American Way?


4 posted on 06/28/2006 7:09:06 PM PDT by Sentis
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To: Hildy

I'll have to side with your husband on that point. I'll probably see the movie, but that changed phrase is going to frost me!


5 posted on 06/28/2006 7:09:46 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Al Qaeda / Taliban operatives: Read the NY Times, for daily up to the minute security threat tips.)
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To: Hildy

People still "go" to movies? How quaint.


6 posted on 06/28/2006 7:10:06 PM PDT by Huck (Hey look, I'm still here.)
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To: Sentis
Saw the movie today.
Nice movie, but not as really great as I expected.
I gotta admit I never thought of the religious symbolisms you mention, while I was watching it.
But yeah, Lois Lane was a good woman, and her bf turned out to be a great guy and a good father to the boy, even tho he's not his biological son.
Plus of course good triumphs over evil.
Nice wholesome entertainment fare for the family.
7 posted on 06/28/2006 7:13:10 PM PDT by Jameison
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To: Hildy

> when they were supposed to say FIGHTING FOR TRUTH, JUSTICE, AND THE AMERICAN WAY, the left out "THE AMERICAN WAY."

In other words, they restored the original version. "The American Way" was added in the '50's when Superman became an *extremely* bland white-bread superhero.


8 posted on 06/28/2006 7:16:01 PM PDT by orionblamblam (I'm interested in science and preventing its corruption, so here I am.)
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To: Jameison

You said the world doesn't need salvation so why do I hear it calling out for a Savior.


I am going to make that my Tag. Most uplifting thing I have heard in a movie in years and much more important than Superman saying Truth justice and the American way.


9 posted on 06/28/2006 7:16:14 PM PDT by Sentis (You said the world doesn't need salvation so why do I hear it calling out for a Savior.)
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Do you work for the movie company?

Whats with the viral advertising campaign?


10 posted on 06/28/2006 7:18:23 PM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: Hildy
The only reason I would even consider seeing this movie, if and only if, Kate Bosworth does a nude scene. ;)
11 posted on 06/28/2006 7:19:44 PM PDT by Perdogg
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To: longtermmemmory

I am promoting it because I am a fan of Superman and I see a message in the movie that is missed by the people who haven't seen it and don't know that even Hollywood has a hard time denigrating Superman.


12 posted on 06/28/2006 7:21:59 PM PDT by Sentis (You said the world doesn't need salvation so why do I hear it calling out for a Savior.)
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To: Perdogg

She doesn't...and apparently, she's BORING.


13 posted on 06/28/2006 7:22:02 PM PDT by Hildy (Change calls the tune we dance to.)
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"She doesn't...and apparently, she's BORING."

Good. I prefer boring. Whatever happened to the imagination?

14 posted on 06/28/2006 7:28:38 PM PDT by sageb1 (This is the Final Crusade. There are only 2 sides. Pick one.)
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To: Sentis

In this day and age you don't need a theater to know a story for a movie in the theater. There are more than enough spoiler sites around that will give you EXACTLY what is in the movie.

I am a fan of series and despise the PC movment of the "big blue". There was no reason to make lois lane a single mom. there was no reason to wimpify superman.


15 posted on 06/28/2006 7:31:32 PM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: Sentis
No, but does he say, "Great Caesar's ghost!"??
16 posted on 06/28/2006 7:34:38 PM PDT by rockrr (Never argue with a man who buys ammo in bulk...)
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To: longtermmemmory

There is a reason, she had sex with Clark in the second movie (while she was married to him. There is a result of having unprotected sex ... that is a child. If she had aborted the child that would have been the liberal thing to do. She didn't do that she did the right thing. I think it makes the movie stronger and more conservative.


17 posted on 06/28/2006 7:35:56 PM PDT by Sentis (You said the world doesn't need salvation so why do I hear it calling out for a Savior.)
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To: Sentis

Great analysis!!


18 posted on 06/28/2006 7:36:12 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist (What you know about that?)
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To: Huck
People still "go" to movies? How quaint.

I do, for $2. Add another $3 for a big tub of buttered popcorn.

For a good movie, no 'home theater' can match the big screen.

19 posted on 06/28/2006 7:39:17 PM PDT by newgeezer
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To: newgeezer

Yep. I usually wait til the movie gets to the "Second-run" theater, where it costs just $2.50. Just like the regular movie theaters but much cheaper.


20 posted on 06/28/2006 7:43:11 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist (What you know about that?)
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