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"Birth Control Is Selfish" ... The Message Society Doesn't Want To Hear
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Posted on 05/25/2006 9:14:50 PM PDT by nrfcmedia

"Birth Control Is Selfish" ... The Message Society Doesn't Want To Hear

This past weekend graduates of Saint Thomas University were treated to a surprising speech by 21-year-old graduating student Ben Kessler. Some graduates walked out, many jeered, and others spewed profanities in response to his speech.

Just what did he speak of which caused such an outcry? The War in Iraq? Border control? NSA spying? None of the above.

So, what exactly did Mr. Kessler do wrong? He touched society's third rail: contraception. Mr. Kessler had the audacity to call the use of birth control "an act of selfishness."

One would have expected some encouraging applause from the audience, after all St. Thomas is a Catholic institution. The reality is that many of these Catholic students and family members are themselves using contraception, and Mr. Kessler confronted their lifestyle and the use of contraception.

Mr. Kessler dared to speak about this issue and people didn't want to hear his message. What happened to the exchange of ideas universities are famous for? Where were all of the supposed "open minds" at during this speech? Instead of listening to his speech with an open mind, it seems that they were too busy keeping themselves ignorant by jeering and ridiculing him.

Society has a lust affair with birth control to the point of not being able to think outside of the box. We live in a contraception "matrix" where it's impossible to believe that there are any harmful effects on marriage, society, and the health of women.

This "contraception deception" is the primary force behind the attacks against the contra-contraception message.

For the most part, society doesn't want to hear the message. This message is that, in our culture, contraception leads to increases in abortion, teenage sex, affairs (and subsequent divorce), health problems, and statutory rape. These facts are apparent by simply comparing statistics.

Why are people willfully preserving their ignorance? For the past century, people have lived in a society that endorses the practice of a contraceptive lifestyle of easy, commitment free, and on-demand sex without challenging them to question possible adverse effects.

Mr. Kessler could have spoke about the start of a career, the discernment of a vocation, the undertaking of new responsibilities, or many other subjects related to graduation. But hopefully his bold message will help to his classmates to question the force-fed information they have heard all their lives concerning human sexuality and contraception and arrive at a more natural, healthier view of human sexuality.

The contraception debate is long overdue, and it is people like Mr. Kessler who are breaking down the walls of ignorance, selfishness, and deception. Society may be resistant to this message, but over time the truth will prevail.


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To: HairOfTheDog; Antoninus; little jeremiah
Americans do get touchy when people start telling them how, when and why to have, or not have, sex, or calling their choices 'selfish' if they choose not to have children. It's a personal or religious decision, and outside of that, it's not anyone's business.

If Christ is Our Lord, he is either Lord of all or Lord of none. That is how Lords work. All for Christ or he is not truly Lord.

Off limit topics make morality and Love of God closer to swiss cheese than it should be. I have troubles and sin like everyone else, but it does not bode well for our society when we lock Him out of certain rooms and acts.
281 posted on 05/26/2006 10:56:20 AM PDT by klossg (GK - God is good!)
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To: Antoninus; AustinBill; RobbyS
Typical of his time and class, T. Roosevelt was a cheerleader for eugenics. No decent person should look to him for guidance on the matter of Birth Control.

Antoninus, you and I have already disagreed on the question of whether TR was a proto-fascist. I stand by my earlier opinion.

282 posted on 05/26/2006 11:01:58 AM PDT by Romulus (Quomodo sedet sola civitas plena populo.)
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To: little jeremiah; Antoninus
"Amazing how the topic of contraception brings out peoples' bile!"

"Amazing how people get touchy when the topic of sex and responsibility and morality get brought up. Recreational sex without any responsibility must be defended at all costs, apparently."

Indeed, this has been a very educational thread, thanks.

283 posted on 05/26/2006 11:05:43 AM PDT by Jonx6
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To: sinkspur
He figured he'd start wagging his finger at people to get a little practice for the kind of priest he'd be.

Pot, kettle. At least young Kessler has the advantage of being on truth's side.

284 posted on 05/26/2006 11:05:56 AM PDT by Romulus (Quomodo sedet sola civitas plena populo.)
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To: peyton randolph

Rigght Im sure all the eople using beirth control have three kids and are just doing it to stay off the street. We all see here is the fool...


285 posted on 05/26/2006 11:08:55 AM PDT by N3WBI3 ("I can kill you with my brain" - River Tam)
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To: Romulus
Antoninus, you and I have already disagreed on the question of whether TR was a proto-fascist. I stand by my earlier opinion.

He was wrong on eugenics. Right on contraception. You'll recall that Hillaire Belloc supported the Fascists in Italy in the 1920s and that C.S. Lewis was an atheist as a young man. Both changed their opinions when the outcomes of those philosophies were made more clear to them. I have no doubt TR would have as well--had he lived to see what the eugenics movement wrought.
286 posted on 05/26/2006 11:16:06 AM PDT by Antoninus (Ginty for US Senate -- NJ's primary day is June 6 -- www.gintyforsenate.org)
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To: Romulus
At least young Kessler has the advantage of being on truth's side.

That he would upbraid his fellow classmates on the day they culminate four years of effort indicates a selfishness on Kessler's part. The thought that he might have been out of line likely never crossed his mind.

287 posted on 05/26/2006 11:21:47 AM PDT by sinkspur ( Don Cheech. Vito Corleone would like to meet you......Vito Corleone.....)
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To: Antoninus
Eventually, contentious issues like these will drive one faction or the other right out of the party.

I disagree that this is a statement of fact, except as it relates to your 'all or nothing' attitude on this. We could happily stay in the same party, since 95% of our goals are the same. Your suggestion seems to be all party members must agree on all things, or else they will have to break up the party. That, in fact, is my point here -- you folks on the 'social conservative' side seem to have this attitude that I disagree with, and I was hoping to chat with you about it some.

Isn't anecdotal evidence fun?

I think you missed my point, maybe I wasn't clear enough -- there are a lot of *both* of us. And we need each other. Political conservatives like myself do respect the religious and moral convictions of others. We just don't want religion being the primary motivating factor behind proposed laws.

My question for you is: would you vote for such a candidate?

Me -- I probably wouldn't pay any attention to what they promised. I'd look at their record. If they have a record of keeping spending down, and of keeping govt power in check, I'd consider them a 'C' and vote for them. If not, then I would not.

If I lived in Jersey, I'd probably write in someone I know personally. I live in Texas, and on more than one occasion I've written in my father-in-law, a good businessman and a deacon in his presbyterian church.

But our more immediate problem is a liberal GOP which prevents even the contest of ideas from properly taking place on even ground.

Again, my point. It's not the 'politically conservative' folks you blamed it on earlier, it's real Libs who lie and call themselves Cs.

288 posted on 05/26/2006 11:22:48 AM PDT by Dominic Harr (Conservative = Careful, as in 'Conservative with money')
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To: Dominic Harr
Political conservatives like myself do respect the religious and moral convictions of others. We just don't want religion being the primary motivating factor behind proposed laws.

You seem to be suggesting two things with your statements.

That a religious impulse invalidates a good idea.

And that there are no good "non-religous" arguments for things like marriage and morality.

Also, you fall into the trap like the others and assume that a speaker calling for introspection on a subject like contraception is trying to "propose laws."

One can call on an audience to avoid pre-marital sex and drinking to excess without being in favor of outlawing fornication and alcohol.

SD

289 posted on 05/26/2006 11:31:07 AM PDT by SoothingDave
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To: N3WBI3
Rigght Im sure all the eople using beirth control have three kids and are just doing it to stay off the street. We all see here is the fool...
Is English your second language ...or are you just illiterate? This is the most pathetic post I've read in the past year.
290 posted on 05/26/2006 11:40:12 AM PDT by peyton randolph (Time for an electoral revolution where the ballot box is the guillotine)
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To: peyton randolph
Wow what a great retort, you convinced me you know what you're talking about..
291 posted on 05/26/2006 11:41:19 AM PDT by N3WBI3 ("I can kill you with my brain" - River Tam)
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To: SoothingDave
That a religious impulse invalidates a good idea.

I'm sorry, I didn't mean to imply that. I probably should have said, "We just don't want religion to be the 'only' motivating factor behind proposed laws".

And that there are no good "non-religous" arguments for things like marriage and morality.

I must not be writing clearly enough, I'm sorry. It's friday, and I'm working on a project in the background, not giving this my full attention.

My point actually is that "non-religous" arguments are the things that sway 'political conservatives'. Certainly there are good arguments for marriage and many 'morality' laws lik murder. And those are the kinds of discussions i'm arguing we should be having.

Also, you fall into the trap like the others and assume that a speaker calling for introspection on a subject like contraception is trying to "propose laws."

Actually, I was specifically talking about the cases where it translates to law.

Quite the contrary, I am all for religious (and anyone, for that matter) speaking out condemning that which they don't think is healthy. I'm only turned off when it becomes a movement to make laws. And even then, mainly when it becomes a movement to a 'federal' law.

292 posted on 05/26/2006 11:48:16 AM PDT by Dominic Harr (Conservative = Careful, as in 'Conservative with money')
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To: Notwithstanding
Thus far, we have spent about $100,000 on post-secondary education for our kids. Could we have raised another kid to our expectations. No!

Could we have popped out a dozen little hicks and fed them until they were old enough to drop out of school and join the exciting food services industry... probably.

And I can't say supernatural forces have ever played a role in my financial planning.

293 posted on 05/26/2006 11:57:48 AM PDT by Energy Alley ("War on Christians" = just another professional victim group.)
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To: Dominic Harr
Well, I can't really argue with any of that. Have a good weekend.

SD

294 posted on 05/26/2006 11:58:33 AM PDT by SoothingDave
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To: sinkspur

You didn't read or listen to the speech did you? He covered more than just birth control.


295 posted on 05/26/2006 12:10:28 PM PDT by Jaded (does it really need a sarcasm tag?)
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To: peyton randolph

Mexico's problem is not lack of contraception. It is corruption, and the lack of a strong rule of law, the lack of strong property rights, and a socialist government.


296 posted on 05/26/2006 12:26:45 PM PDT by Rodney King (No, we can't all just get along.)
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To: sinkspur
Exactly. I read elsewhere that this guy wants to enter a seminary. He figured he'd start wagging his finger at people to get a little practice for the kind of priest he'd be.<.i>

Yeah!

Priest better not tell people about sin! Oh Noooo! Not sin... anything but THAT!!

297 posted on 05/26/2006 12:30:52 PM PDT by It's me
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To: Rodney King
Mexico's problem is not lack of contraception. It is corruption, and the lack of a strong rule of law, the lack of strong property rights, and a socialist government.
Mexico has many problems. This thread's subject is the Church's stance on contraception. I used Mexico as an example of why the Church is wrong on the issue.
298 posted on 05/26/2006 12:39:33 PM PDT by peyton randolph (Time for an electoral revolution where the ballot box is the guillotine)
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To: Energy Alley

Based on your reply, I see that you could have raised more kids, but apparently not in the level of luxury and privilege to which you are accustomed.

I know plenty of losers whose parents provided them with every privilege - and have met many respectable people who work in food service.

Your priorities are obvious - and sad.


299 posted on 05/26/2006 12:44:02 PM PDT by Notwithstanding (I love my German shepherd - Benedict XVI reigns!)
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To: Energy Alley
"what is selfish is popping out children you can't care for that become a burdan on society."

That is selfish too, which is why there is a thing called "abstinence."

300 posted on 05/26/2006 1:24:25 PM PDT by TAdams8591
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