Posted on 05/23/2006 2:29:13 PM PDT by PJ-Comix
Freudenschade, Baby! Apparently the DUmmies never learn. Not only did they suffer from a mass dose of Freudenschade over Fitzmas, the DUmmies fell for another round of premature Freudenschade jubiliation yesterday over the story of an Army Ranger who admitted to committing War Crimes only to have to eat a big heaping of crow later when it found out that the Army Ranger in question was FAKE. But FIRST.... The latest on the Hoaxmas Front. As of this writing TruthOut is sticking with their Partial Birth Apology in which they continue to stick by their Fitzmas fairy tale in which Karl Rove has ALREADY been indicted on May 12. Meanwhile, Pied Piper Pitt is still holed up in the Furorbunker hoping to wait out the backlash forces of Hoaxmas that are now beseiging his once mighty Third American Reich which began (according to him) with ice hockey fans screaming "USA! USA!" following the American victory over the Soviets at the 1980 Winter Olympics. Rumor has it that a certain Dr. Morell is currently administering strong doses of alcohol to Pitt in order to ease his emotional suffering during this turmoil. When there is a new battle on the Hoaxmas front, we will keep bring you the update as well as detailed analysis of Pitt's political Götterdämmerung.
And now back to the latest DUmmie Freudenschade.... Yesterday, the DUmmies temporarily forgot their Hoaxmas woes to celebrate the news that a former Army Ranger had openly confessed to committing war crimes as you can see in this THREAD titled, ""By my hand alone almost 200 were taken out, that's just a rough estimate." Yes, Freudenschade broke out all over DUmmieland over this news that was soon followed by the inevitable crow eating ceremony when it was REVEALED that, "The video of the Army Ranger is a fake." So let us now join the DUmmies in the midst of their Freudenschade celebrations in Bolshevik Red, while the commentary of your humble correspondent, whipping up another serving of crow for them, is in the [brackets]:
"By my hand alone almost 200 were taken out, that's just a rough estimate"
[Commence the Freudenschade celebrations, baby!]
Army Ranger Jessie Macbeth speaks about War Crimes he and other Rangers committed in Iraq with the encouragement and blessing of their superiors.
[Oooh! Oooh! I sure hope I didn't drink up all the victory champagne celebrating Karl Rove's May 12 indictment.]
He's got the courage to speak out. To implicate himself in War Crimes. I can support this Ranger and any others that have the courage of their convictions to speak out about the atrocities they were encouraged or ordered to commit by superior officers. At the same time I am completely revolted by what he and others did to innocent Iraqi civilians.
[We have an extra big heaping of crow warming up in the oven for you, DUmmie LibertyorDeath.]
IT'S A FAKE!!!!!! He is wearing his beret on backwards. I doubt he is even who he says he is. It's a shame that crap like this gets posted on DU. Giving credibility to these kinds of lies demeans the whole site."
[Shut up you lousy KILLJOY!!! Let the DUmmies enjoy their Freudenschade.]
I'm not sure what picture this angry person is debunking, but it is not the picture in the video that I watched. His beret is "fine" and medals can't be seen as it's a head shot. Further he has some medals pinned to the outside of his picture frame and his moustache was shaven.
[Is that you, Marc Ash?]
I'm not gullible for giving a guy who wears his beret "differently" the benefit of the doubt. I don't believe nor disbelieve him.
[Jason Leopold has verified that this guy was definitely an Army Ranger.]
Still doesn't explain the sleeves. Why would a Ranger roll his sleeves like a Marine? Seriously, little shit like that gets pounded into your head every day you're in the military.
[I'll search for an explanation of this at TruthOut.]
I'm not defending him as truthful or not, but I think there was truth to what he said about the experience in Iraq.
[The Dan Rather Apology: The Army Ranger might have been fake but his confession was accurate.]
I admit to wild speculation. However I understand it's not uncommon to wear ones beret "wrong" regardless.
[And it's also not uncommon to lock down an entire floor of Patton Boggs for a 15 hour meeting complete with a Secret Service detail.]
gully, show us one picture, just one picture of another Army Ranger with his beret sloping downward to his left. Berets are ALWAYS worn sloping downwards towards their right.
[LOUSY FREEPER TROLL!!!]
It is time this country learned the truth about what exactly is going on over there...that our troops are being maimed and killed and are killing for a bunch of lies; lies that make a few people very, very rich.
[Would you like your crow well done?]
I don't recall any reports like this in the foreign media. This would have been picked up in the foreign media if it was happening.
[This story won't be considered solid until TruthOut verifies it.]
Makes me sick that this adm is behind this cruelty. No wonder so many are coming back from Iraq with messed up minds. This is awful.
[It's not polite to talk with crow in your mouth.]
He is presented as a member of Iraq Veterans Against the War - I respect the group. If he is an IVAW member then I think he must be real - he couldn't pull the wool over fellow vets' eyes, I would not think.
[Excuse me. You've got some wool in your eyes.]
kick for the truth
[Enjoying that "Kick Me" sign affixed to your posterior?]
He's not a spokeman for the army. He's telling us what HE went through. as horrid as it is.
[According to the Arizona State University NEWSPAPER, MacBeth's worst combat experience was receiving poor service at a local coffee shop.]
Dan Rather was reliable too. But even he got tricked into a set up.
[So is MacBeth being Rathered or Leopoled?]
I just watched it, and I believe him. His mannorisms, his stutter is more pronounced when he talks about the things he did, the dis-connected thoughts... he's telling the truth.
[Is that you, Will Pitt, commenting from the Furorbunker?]
I believe anyone with a set big enough to CONFESS to War Crimes that are MOST CERTAINLY going on there. One more thing-Look at that guys eyes-there's ALL the proof anyone needs, right there.
[Your TruthOut journalist job application is currently being given serious consideration.]
I'm beginning to think DU exists in some kind of little fantasy world all it's own. That video is crap. I wonder how much the guy was paid to say that stuff.
[And this DUmmie WINS a Kewpie Doll dressed in camo clothing for having a brief moment of mental clarity.]
Have the freepers picked up on this? They would have a hay day - DU Admins better yank this article off line quick.
[Too late. It's already provided yet more comedy material for the DUmmie FUnnies.]
I think we're all going to need a drink by the time this is over.
[Is that you, Will Pitt, commenting from Bukowski's?]
It would be us and IVAW who've been Rathered, where Macbeth is the faked document - containing stuff that's in fact real.
[Fake but Accurate: The motto of the Leftist media. And now on to the DUmmie Crow Eating CEREMONY titled, "The video of the Army Ranger is a fake."]
The video of the Army Ranger is a fake.
[Munch! Munch! May I have another helping of crow?]
I served in Iraq 16 months as a U.S. Army Ranger." April 23, 2004. The war was less than 16 months old at that point. He must have a time machine.
[I bet the DUmmies would like to take a Time Trip back to May 12.]
possibly the war started earlier than thought...
[Correct. And the Civil war actually began in 1856.]
I am so, so disappointed in some of the people in this community, but I know there are others who are reality based. We can't fight their lies if we live in a fantasy world of our own. I want a reality-based community, is that too much to ask?
[Yes. Much too much to ask of DUmmieland.]
These days, however, reality is taking a back seat on DU in favor of the new flavor of the month - "If I want it it must be true. Therefore, I shall pretend that it is."
[Okay Dorothy. Now lean back, close your eyes, and repeat three times: "Karl Rove was indicted on May 12! Karl Rove was indicted on May 12! Karl Rove was indicted on May 12!"]
Late breaking DU news... Karl Rove was indicted last week by Special Counsel Patrick Fitzgerald in the Valerie Plame affair. Details are lacking and we like it, but what the hell... it sounds good so run with it.
[Break out the victory champagne! Freudenschade, baby!]
If only they had known what an Army uninform looks like... ... the trick/stunt would have worked! Damn!!!!
[Damn that Faker MacBeth for not researching his scam carefully enough!]
Has Roves finger prints all over it. Pay some to lie, so that the real ones get discounted......
[The obligatory "It was all Karl Rove's fault" posting.]
well if that's the case, he sure has Iraq Veterans Against the War...pretty well fooled. Somehow I think that's unlikely. Not inconceivable I suppose, but you'd think they'd spot a fake pretty quickly.
[Unless, gasp, they were fake vets as well.]
It seemed like a hoax.
[It seemed like Hoaxmas?]
I am listening to his account now, though this is an awful story, unfortunately, it sounds REAL to me.
[A True Believer to the Bitter End and probably still waiting to see the May 12 date on the Rove indictment papers.]
When this blows up in this kid's face he can intern for Jason Leopold. He'll have an equal amount of credibility.
[MacBeth will become Jason Leopold's personal Monica.]
He could very well suffer from some kind of grandiose delusion syndrome
[aka William Rivers Pitt Syndrome.]
This guy has not even told the truth about himself. He has not told the truth about his service. The unit he says he served in Falujah with was at Ft. Benning at the time. No. I WILL NOT believe him on this one. As far as Jesse MacBeth is concerned, I believe he has to have someone else call his dog because not even Fido believes anything he says.
[How about Robert Luskin's cat with the healthy stools?]
The guy is a poser, and this story smells real bad. Remember the Rovian trick of "discrediting the source"? Stay vigilant. To me, it feels like this guy is the new TANG documents, a "fishing expedition" of a semi-believable story that is later easy to refute and ridicule. Don't bite.
[Too late. The DUmmies have already been hooked, landed, and gutted.]
Stay alert. If Rove is doing it, others will pick up on it. This could be some kind of right-wing discrediting hoax, or even a cadre of lefties trying to "heighten the contradictions" by publishing false information (sad but true). I'd hate to imagine anyone in gov't would stoop so low as to put this guy out there to discredit IVAW.
[Avoid being sucked into the vortex of the Perfect Rovian Storm while on your way to the Crow Feast.]
The member of democraticunderground "Maddy McCall" and DUmmies discuss how they would react to the reappearance of the Bostonian Idiot:
That is hilarious!
If the Magic Man is reading that, I bet he's doing it with his hands over his face and while hiding under the covers.
One surely hopes the Bostonian Idiot is "hiding under the covers" of.....a sanitarium, which is where he really belongs, so he will get well.
Thanks for posting that link, Speedy! I see that we have a real "intelligent" one here. He doesn't like being called a "trader" (sic):
He's already got the beret.
He just doesn't know how to wear it!
Yeah, Maddy McCall is not exactly one of Pitt's biggest fans over there, and she lets it be known.
Thanks
Donailin (1000+ posts) Tue May-23-06 11:22 PM
Response to Reply #75
110. One day when you mildy disagree in complete civility with a point some poster is making and William Pitt, out of the blue, jumps on your posterior and rips you a new one because you even dare to express dissent from HIS point of view, you'll understand how many of us feel.
I don't think he lacks integrity, I think he is an excellent writer. But that NEVER is justification for his obscene attacks on folks who express differing opinions let alone think critically about information being disseminated in this and other forums.
What he lacks is self control. He is abusive and belligerent. He has lost credibility because he does not command respect. You know who commands respect? H20 man. EmptyWheel. Jane at Firedoglake. They don't bite your head off or go on tirades when doubts are expressed. And why is that? Because they have their excresence under control.
(And now, bordlord, go ahead and delete this post like you have my others that dare to criticize the main attraction, just be advised that my designated donation dollars are redirected towards blogs that actually excercize democratic values -- like dissent from the "mainstream" POV)
Thanks Dave! I got it saved now! You all can't hide from me anymore! :-)
LOL.
Skinner should have canned "the main attraction" right away after his outburst. How long has he been missing now, 8 days or so?
The Bostonian Idiot's been absent, by my count, 194 hours since he last appeared in DUmmieland with the rest of the garbageout.com crowd.
The Bostonian Idiot did show up on Sunday, May 21, on the other conservative web-site, but probably just to check his personal messages, as he didn't post anything.
One hopes the Bostonian Idiot is getting the comprehensive, heavy-duty, industrial-strength emotional and mental counseling he needs.
Every day at DU is now Fizzmas.
They're dying over there over the non indictment of Karl Rove. The double skewering of Leopold and armPitt has left them confused and unorganized. It's pretty funny.
If you put a dozen of them in a room for an hour and told them to plan a hiking trip, they'd still be arguing about which footwear would be most individually expressive when the hour was up.
Donailin was close to Pitt during the Andy Scam. Closer off board than on. Donailin usually shows up to re-direct traffic when things get snarled up for Pitt.
I think H2O Man is Pitt, or a conduit for Pitt.
"Scamdy" refers to the late DUmmie Andy Stephenson, who used to work with Bev Harris of Black Box Voting. "Scamdy" and "AndyScam" both refer to something that happened about a year ago, where Andy Stephenson posted on DU that he had pancreatic cancer, and he was raising money to get a whipple procedure done at Johns Hopkins hospital--even though he could have received that treatment at a perfectly good hospital in Washington state, and it would have been covered. But he had set up a PayPal account, and he and other DUmmies were actively raising funds on DU and other boards to cover the procedure. During this time, questions arose about not only the fundraising, but whether or not he really had pancreatic cancer (or pancreatitis). He eventually did have the surgery at Johns Hopkins, but died shortly after from complications. We (and other sites) were watching the fundraising efforts here, and DU often tries to blame us for "killing" Andy, which is utter nonsense.
franksolich (and others) have done a good job of putting the facts out there. See http://www.scamdy.com
I have a suggestion, PJ, as I think you're the person to carry this out.
As you're intimately aware of what pushes the hot buttons of these people, perhaps you ought to set up a serious looking "news" site which produces all sorts of disinformation, We can then watch DU sieze upon it as gospel. Even when the stories don't prove out, they'll still believe it.
Regards, Ivan
Welcome aboard, PINGEE #863.
"he eventually did have the surgery at Johns Hopkins..."
Johns Hopkins declared it a hoax as soon as they learned of it in early May 2005 and they have not retracted this.
Several Dummies closely involved with the scam inadvertently revealed that Andy's surgery for the removal of a non-malignant, barely perceptible growth, was performed in Seattle, around 04 May 2005, with the usual long recuperation period required for abdominal surgery.
Andy's surgeon was part of The Country Doctor Clinic whose members are given staff priveleges at Swedish Medical in Seattle.
Andy was enrolled under Medicaid by 03 March 2005. It was retroactive for three months so all of his medical bills were taken care of by the taxpayers.
At the time the fund-raiser started Andy's lover re-nogotiated a mortgage, or took a loan, on his house which Andy had bragged to the Dummies was worth over $400,000. Extensive remodeling was begun on the house at the same time.
The fund-raising used Amazon which collected money from donors and directed it to over 150 websites; what happened to the money after that is a mystery since there has never been an accounting.
Donors to Andy's paypal account were so generous, according to one Dummie, that "the money was clogging up Paypal," leading to Andy's not getting the money right away.
According to the chief scammers this was one of the many reasons Andy was denied treatment right away, was forced to hang out in Baltimore, take trips to Hoboken on non-existent railroads, and for Andy's being "kicked out of Johns Hopkins by security people." A man dying of pancreatic cancer left to die on the sidewalk because in Amerika if you aren't rich, blah, blah, blah.
The fundraiser was not registered in the States in which money was collected. There is no official record of how much money any individual collection site received from Amazon, nor any record of how much, if any, was transmitted to Andy.
One of the busiest Dummies during the fundraiser posted on DU that "money is pouring into my website from all over the world," and, later, "my hands are sore from handling the donations coming to me."
Recently, Michael Moore expressed an interest in including Andy's tale in his latest epic, "Sicko," about health-care in this country, another expose of the essential rotteness of Amerika and the "blood-sucker doctors," and blah, blah, blah.
However, some of the key players in the scam freaked out all over DU, and it is doubtful that Andy will be in the film, so as not to reopen old wounds for his family, and his lover, as well as making sure that Will Pitt does not have to give the provenance of the "documents" he posted on Conservative Underground, where he and BenBurch and Goodboy and others continued their disinformation operation.
Skinner had kicked off so many people who questioned what seemed to them a criminal enterprise, shut down further discussion of the "Andy Situation," and apparently approved of Pitt taking the propaganda war into Conservative Underground.
The lies, makeshifts, evasions, and abuse confused the Dummies who went to CU for information about a fundraiser in Dummieland that the proprietor of Dummieland forbade them to post about on DU.
A very complete record is available at scamdy.com. The hysteria and threats of violence from the Dummie money grubbers for keeping scamdy.com alive, are part of the history. Unlike where the money went, the threats are a matter of official record.
Wow-thanks for the correction...and the update. I didn't know that his surgery actually happened in Washington state and NOT at Johns Hopkins!
Several Dummies closely involved with the scam inadvertently revealed that Andy's surgery for the removal of a non-malignant, barely perceptible growth, was performed in Seattle, around 04 May 2005, with the usual long recuperation period required for abdominal surgery.
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