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Ed Schultz show producer blames CATHOLICS for Mexico problems
http://edschultz.invisionzone.com/index.php?showtopic=14405&st=0 ^

Posted on 05/20/2006 4:42:26 PM PDT by WBL 1952

This amateur show producer at the Ed Schulz show has always had thing about Catholics and religion. They need a few more conservative opinions over there.


TOPICS: Religion
KEYWORDS: blame; liberaltalkradio
The immigration debate has left many people pointing the finger of blame at one another. My finger is pointed at...... The Catholic Church.

Catholicism is the most prevalent religion in Mexico. Catholicism views contraception as a sin. Mexico had a population of 40 million in 1940, now it has over 120 million people. I don't blame Mexicans for wanting to make a better life for their families. If you have a wife and 2 kids to provide for in a country like Mexico it’s very difficult, if you have a wife and 8 kids, it’s impossible. -------------------- Holmey Producer Ed Schultz Show

1 posted on 05/20/2006 4:42:28 PM PDT by WBL 1952
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To: WBL 1952

Ooo.....This ones a hornets nest...


2 posted on 05/20/2006 4:44:17 PM PDT by Dallas59
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To: WBL 1952

dude, like bad pr man....


3 posted on 05/20/2006 4:44:50 PM PDT by kinoxi
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To: WBL 1952

Mexico is an oil-rich country with a population slightly over 1/3 of the US. They AREN'T overpopulated. The government there is incredibly, irredeemably corrupt, though, and they have a large number of billionaires and a huge, destitute poverty class because of it...but I don't suppose a leftist would think that THAT could have anything to do with it, would they?


4 posted on 05/20/2006 4:48:25 PM PDT by atomicpossum (Replies must follow approved guidelines or you will be kill-filed without appeal.)
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To: WBL 1952

The guy is clueless. As I have stated numerous times in my view the sin of Contraception(in my view) has hit Mexico and Central America big time. Birthrates are falling at a alarming rate and the the media age will be 5 years higher than the US in the future

The only places where birthrates are exploding is Muslim Countries. NOt in the west


5 posted on 05/20/2006 4:54:52 PM PDT by catholicfreeper (Proud supporter of Pres. Bush and the Gop-- with no caveats, qualifiers, or bitc*en)
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To: WBL 1952
The Catholic Church...right!

It could not have anything to do with the fact that 1/2 of 1% of the population owns everything and there is NO possibility of class mobility. NO.

I work with about 150 to 200 Mexicans every day. Most of them quit school after 6th grade. Why? Because it doesn't how educated you are or how hard you work if you are from the wrong side of the tracks you won't marry up or live up. Upward mobility is almost impossible.
6 posted on 05/20/2006 5:01:25 PM PDT by Mikey_1962 (If you build it, they won't come...)
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To: WBL 1952

I don't know anything about Schultz but it's been documented (and televised) that the Cardinal of Los Angeles (Mahoney) has been urging parishoners to violate the law by aiding illegal aliens in their invasion of the country.

He's also spoken in his ecclesiastical capacity against HR4337.

He's entitled to those views but his tax-exempt status means that you and I are subsidizing this nonsense -- Is it time for a closer examination of religious institutions that are tax-exempt but clearly engaging in secular, partisan politics? To try to hide this illegality in the guise of "morality" is ludicrous.


7 posted on 05/20/2006 5:06:11 PM PDT by T.L.Sink (stopew)
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To: WBL 1952

I will refrain that conservative evanglicals are starting to turn away from birth control in some areas or if being pro birth control is "conservative.

Any way the facts. This conclusions have been repeated in numerous articles



From the article Global Baby Bust
http://www.foreignaffairs.org/20040501faessay83307-p10/phillip-longman/the-global-baby-bust.html




"Another constraint on immigration to the United States involves supply. Birthrates, having already fallen well below replacement levels in Europe and Asia, are now plummeting throughout Latin America as well, which suggests that the United States' last major source of imported labor will dry up. This could occur long before Latin nations actually stop growing -- as the example of Puerto Rico shows. When most Americans think of Puerto Rico, they think of a sunny, over-crowded island that sends millions of immigrants to the West Side of New York City or to Florida. Yet with a fertility rate well below replacement level and a median age of 31.8 years, Puerto Rico no longer provides a net flow of immigrants to the mainland, despite an open border and a lower standard of living. Evidently, Puerto Rico now produces enough jobs to keep up with its slowing rate of population growth, and the allure of the mainland has thus largely vanished."

and
"Now the developing world, as it becomes more urban and industrialized, is experiencing the same demographic transition, but at a faster pace. Today, when Americans think of Mexico, for example, they think of televised images of desperate, unemployed youths swimming the Rio Grande or slipping through border fences. Yet because Mexican fertility rates have dropped so dramatically, the country is now aging five times faster than is the United States. It took 50 years for the American median age to rise just five years, from 30 to 35. By contrast, between 2000 and 2050, Mexico's median age, according to UN projections, will increase by 20 years, leaving half the population over 42. Meanwhile, the median American age in 2050 is expected to be 39.7."
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8 posted on 05/20/2006 5:06:24 PM PDT by catholicfreeper (Proud supporter of Pres. Bush and the Gop-- with no caveats, qualifiers, or bitc*en)
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To: T.L.Sink

Please spare me that the good Cardinal can't speak out of the Bishops. This is a issue or morality.

Oh and by the way
From the US Vatican ambassador to the Vatican
"In a topic with relevance for American politics, Rooney said he and Pope Benedict discussed immigration policies during their first meeting last November. Benedict, Rooney said, expressed the hope that the United States would continue to welcome immigrants, drawing on what the pope called the country’s “great tradition of assimilation.”

Rooney also said he met Cardinal Roger Mahony of Los Angeles during the consistory for the creation of new cardinals in Rome in March, and encouraged him to continue to speak out on immigration issues."

http://www.catholic.org/international/international_story.php?id=19587


So, our Ambassador encourages him and I guess the Church by implication to continue to speak out. I think the Catholic Church is on safe ground here. Hey the United States Govt is encouraging it.


9 posted on 05/20/2006 5:14:18 PM PDT by catholicfreeper (Proud supporter of Pres. Bush and the Gop-- with no caveats, qualifiers, or bitc*en)
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To: catholicfreeper

I don't care about Vatican politics (they've also denounced the war in Iraq), and I'm referring to what Mahony is factually now SAYING and DOING.

But you've failed to address the main issue of whether you and I should be forced to subsidize activity that gives them tax-exempt status for illegal activity.


10 posted on 05/20/2006 5:26:11 PM PDT by T.L.Sink (stopew)
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To: WBL 1952
It is not the corruption or the vast divide between rich and poor. No, not at all. Because Mexicans are having children the country becomes corrupt and poor.

In the United States, we abort our children and will experience a population problem: not enough young people as compared to the number of the retired elderly. Again, this is the Catholic Church's fault for some odd reason.

11 posted on 05/20/2006 5:30:58 PM PDT by Robertsll
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To: T.L.Sink

What illegal activity? Telling people to write their Congressman. Go out and hold up a sign. There is no illegal activity going on.


12 posted on 05/20/2006 5:31:40 PM PDT by catholicfreeper (Proud supporter of Pres. Bush and the Gop-- with no caveats, qualifiers, or bitc*en)
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To: T.L.Sink
American Catholic Bishops also view adding millions to their rolls here with illegal immigrants. Their now empty pews and in many large metro areas are now beginning to be filled by people who only speak Spanish.

Just as our pols are trolling for future voters, Catholics are trolling for millions of more members in America.

13 posted on 05/20/2006 5:47:38 PM PDT by zerosix (Native Sunflower)
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To: catholicfreeper

Once again my points seem to have eluded you. I give up. Good night and good luck!


14 posted on 05/20/2006 5:53:54 PM PDT by T.L.Sink (stopew)
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To: zerosix

You've sure called that one right! English has replaced Latin and in Mahoney's diocese Spanish will replace English. BUT - the peso will not replace the dollar! Pass those offering plates!


15 posted on 05/20/2006 5:59:02 PM PDT by T.L.Sink (stopew)
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