Posted on 05/18/2006 4:04:27 AM PDT by FerdieMurphy
For quite some time, 20 years at least, conservatives, constitutionalists and traditionalists have been frustrated with political reality in America. The ‘Republican revolution’ of 1994 bore small fruit, that establishment Republicans let wither and die on the vine. In the place of promises of smaller government, fiscal responsibility and stronger defense of our liberties and sovereignty, the Republicans have given us what the Democrats wanted to give us: bigger government, larger debts, and big-brother government with fading liberty and sovereignty.
The Democrats are nothing but pandering socialists who have sold out to corporate globalists, whereas Republicans are pandering corporatists who have sold out to socialistic globalists. There’s not a whole lot of difference is there? What we have running our country are a bunch of power hungry one-worlders who basically chose up sides to play their game and are only concerned with their team (political party) being in control. Either way we get the same raw deal.
Not since the 1850s has the political environment been so ripe for the emergence of another political party onto the national scene in a manner that will allow it to ‘play with the big boys.’ Back then, it was the newly formed Republican Party that came on the scene and eventually eclipsed and killed the Whig Party. If a political party, whether it were to be a newly formed party or one of the current third parties, was to make the right move, it could dominate the right, become a defender of the Constitution, and truly get into the game with the ‘big boys.’
The Democratic Party has sold its soul to socialism and every leftist special interest or perversion known. The Republican Party is tearing itself apart due to the left-leaning elites that control the party, ignoring its conservative base. A new conservative party could pull in the disaffected voters who’ve given up on our political system, and also draw in conservatives hopelessly clinging to the Republican Party. The remaining liberal Republicans would simply fold themselves into the Democratic Party, where there hearts really reside already.
According to a recent Scott Rasmussen’s survey, a third party candidate could easily take a third of the votes in a national election if they made preventing illegal immigration and enforcing our immigration laws their key issues. In fact, if Hillary Clinton was to run for president in 2008, without a third party candidate focused on illegal immigration, the survey shows nothing can stop Hillary from winning. Basically, we will have another Clinton in the White House in 2009 if a conservative third party candidate doesn’t come forth and champion U.S. sovereignty and fight illegal immigration. The survey shows that a third party candidate can win in a three-way race. Hillary wins in a two-way race between Democrats and Republicans. But a third party President facing a Congress split between two opposition parties could mean a seriously failed presidency. That is why a third party would have to ensure candidates run for the House and Senate at the same time, and do so with a ‘joint game plan’ with the presidential candidate. If the ‘Contract with America,’ where candidates ran on a group platform, worked in 1994, it can work in 2008, linking a third party’s presidential candidate with that party’s congressional candidates, all sporting the same key issues and ‘running together’ after a fashion.
With this in mind, neo-con Republicans would no longer be able to scare conservatives into voting for them simply based on the idea that ‘if you don’t vote for us, the Democrats will control everything.” This worn out line has really lost its impact; especially with how the Republican controlled Congress and White House have spent the last five years acting like Democrats.
But what party to form, or which party to look to? To try and form a new, independent party now, looking two years ahead, is a daunting task. I question if this can be done in a manner that will be effective. Looking at existing third parties, which ones have fairly viable organizations that stretch across the country? There are only two I’m aware of that meet the organizational criteria: the Libertarian Party and the Constitution Party. Both, overall, tend to hold fairly sound, traditional views on limited government, fiscal responsibility by government, and limited international involvement (leaving that involvement to be purely economic). It’s in the area of immigration that these two parties differ. It is the Constitution Party that holds the view the Rasmussen survey shows can take the White House.
If the American people wish to break the stranglehold that the current two-party system holds over them (and will surely lead to our financial, cultural and political demise), then anyone who considers themselves a patriot should look to backing the one viable party that stands for American sovereignty and the control of our borders: The Constitution Party. Cast off fears that not voting Republican will mean Hillary gets the White House. The survey shows that that very fear will ensure she gets the White house. It takes courage to take a new path, and it’s time all conservatives, constitutionalists and traditionalists got in the one vehicle that’s currently available to take us back to the constitutional republic our forefathers left us.
I’m not saying that every official position of the Constitution Party is going to appeal to all conservatives/constitutionalists/traditionalist, but neither do all the planks in the Republican or Democrat platforms. I’m just saying that if the citizens want to take back their country from the elites and globalists, it’s time to break with the establishment one-worlders who are selling us down the river and take action via a political party that is working to preserve our Constitution as intended, not as interpreted (or ignored) by elitists.
The Constitution Party stands for more than just defending against immigration, and people should read up on them. At the same time, the Constitution Party needs to promote more of their fiscal views. Currently, they are known mostly as a pro-life party. They can’t ride an anti-abortion, one-trick pony to the White House or to Congress. To be viewed as a truly viable party, the Constitution Party needs to promote their other views concerning limited government, fiscal responsibility and halting illegal immigration. Getting a truly conservative, Constitution-honoring political party into Congress and the White House would help to steer the U.S. back towards sanity. A three-way split in political parties working in Congress could be really beneficial to the health of our Republic.
I know there will be Republican supporters out there that will tell me I’m dividing their ranks and now is the time to fight to keep the Republican Party on track. I can only say that not only is the Republican Party not on track, it has derailed and had a horrible wreck. At this point in time, it is a fool’s errand to attempt to change the neo-con party. I’m also confidant that some Libertarians out there will tell me I should be backing the Libertarian Party rather than the Constitution Party, as they are the real party of true liberty. The Libertarian Party has a lot of good positions on issues. However, as I stated earlier, the big issue that is the turning point for making a third party a true player on the national level is illegal immigration, and the Libertarian Party doesn’t have the correct position on it to take advantage of the current situation in America. In looking for the best vehicle to break the stranglehold that the Republican-Democrat system has on public office, the Libertarian Party simply isn’t positioned properly to be that vehicle.
I freely admit that I’m not a Republican any more (I haven’t been for about 10 years now), and that I’m not a Constitution Party member…yet. However, the time is ripe for change, and I’m tired of being a disaffected conservative. Thanks to the spinelessness of establishment politicians, the climate is right for a new major political party, and the Constitution Party is right on the issue of immigration to take advantage of the times. This is not just a chance to shake up the two-party system, but a chance to take our country back and make it a home again for citizens rather than territory to be conquered by the illegal invaders.
You get it.
Are you questioning the patriotism of those who would vote third party? .....Maybe we should.
Many people think the fight belongs in the General Election
It doesn't
It belongs in the Primaries
I don't vote for a candidate because the GOP tells me to .. I vote for the best candidate .. which is why I voted for Toomey in the PA Primaries
For the first time in my life, I will be voting third party.
I expect that things will get worse before they get better for conservatives in this country... but pain is generally a part of any meaningful change, as is sacrifice. These are things that most of our elected officials have forgotten.
To all of those who would stay home on election day: Get off your a$$es. America wasn't created by people who were so fed up they did nothing. It was created by those with a fighting spirit... who fought, or lobbied, or voted for what they believed in.
This country, and both major political parties with it, has been rotted from within by the fears and ideals of liberalism. How much more can America take? How much more can our nation be crippled by political correctness, which has gone from a social joke to a force that drives actual policymaking decisions? How much more illegal immigration, government growth and intrusion, overtaxation and utter political corruption? How many more liberties are we willing to lose? How much more are we willing to let the government take?
It is time to thoroughly clean house.
It is time to save the Republic.
There is no wiggle room .. we passed that point
Even if they don't win, third parties have impact. Look at the drastic move to the left the Dummycrats have made after Nader. The Republicans moved to the right after Perot. If the Republican party no longer represents your views vote for a party that does. If enough people feel the way you do, the Republican party will soon represent your views.
I'm not questioning anyone's patriotism .. though I do question their priorities
Our enemies would love us to split our vote and let them in. And that's all I'm going to say on the subject.
Amen.
You have committed yourself to a phantom that at this time only exists in your hopes, dreams and fantasies.
Sad, but true. I would, however, like to see the debates opened up to third party candidates so that the Dims and 'Pubbies are forced to reckon with new ideas. What we have now is a duopoly.
The definition of insanity......
A lot of Bull Moose Party types are around here, folks who would bolt to a new version with a leader perceived as charismatic and straight-talking.
And Roosevelt sure was great as a Bull Moose President, now wasn't he? ;)
Even if a modern equivalent were to win the presidency he would be a president with a COngress 100% not of his own party. What possible reason would the R's and D's have to help him make his new party a success? (Because it's for the good of the country? Yeah, right.)
I agree with your point about no one exceptional in politics. Remove Ronald Reagan from the last 40 years (my lifetime) and who've we got who was?
Hmmm.
We don't want another Clinton, We have to remember are soliders in Iraq. They are fighting for us and the Republican party fights for them! In spite of some of its flaws. A third party vote would lead to a Hillary Clinton President. We must stick together as a party. Immigration is very Important, but National Security and our soliders are much more Important!!!!
Then other intel services would plant R-bots and D-bots inside the two parties to make sure they stay intact. Some of our enemies benefit greatly from our stagnant two party system.
Our best hope is to elect high quality R's, which is why I support individual R candidates and no longer send any money to Ken.
I was wondering if you were going to post anything else to this thread after posting this initial call for a third party. I would think someone who claims to respect Reagan so much would more respect his views on the Republican party.
OMG, what warped thinking.
You call them cowards for challenging a duopoly? Any wuss can climb on board the gravy train but it takes sheer guts to go head to head with a well organized, financed and established political syndicate.
If that man were to stay in office for 8 years the entire house would be up for election 3 times with him as a popular champion of his party on the campain trail. Also the entire senate would go through 1 election per seat in that time period if he was as charismatic and compelling as T.R. he could certainly build a party in 8 years.
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