Posted on 05/13/2006 11:14:40 AM PDT by STARWISE
Ding ding ding
Democrats were okay with Eschelon and Carnivore which captured every phone call, every e-mail, every baby monitor (!), every ATM transaction and more, and that program is okay, pre war on terror, but this program isn't okay.
Eschelon and Carnivore information:
http://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1543118/posts?page=1#1
http://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1542838/posts
http://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1543318/posts
http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/ReadArticle.asp?ID=21387
Oops - Clinton's NSA spying program accidentally (ahem) captured a Republican's phone calls.
http://freerepublic.com/focus/news/1553101/posts?page=1
And just for kicks, the Commies insisted on FISA:
http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/ReadArticle.asp?ID=21453
Flashback: Gore planned to bug America:
http://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1559386/posts
NYT called domestic surveillance a necessity when Clinton was president:
http://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1556815/posts
This is the December 2005 NYT article which says what today's USA Today article says regarding NSA collecting phone numbers.
Clearly, Democrats (and some RINOs) have manufactured their outrage over this already reported on program. LOL
http://www.nytimes.com/2005/12/24/politics/24spy.html?ei=5090&en=016edb46b79bde83&ex=1293080400&pagewanted=print
That should help.
Next patient, please.
L
Hmmmm .. and when do the hearings start???
In fact because of their BDS they are incapable of doing so.
My guess is that it stands for "Bush Derangement Syndrome."
Probably so.
http://article.nationalreview.com/?q=NzhmOWI1MGE2ZTM5OTNjYmVmZjI3MzZlYWM5ZmUwZmI=
Hayden doesnt have anything on his plate nearly as important as getting members of Congress reelected.
So if were going to have a national conversation about government data mining, by all means lets have it. But lets not just put the administration and General Hayden under the microscope.
Lets examine the practices of the opposition that purports to find warehousing information and tracking data about American citizens to be the death-knell of liberty.
Lets take a hard look at the elected officials who are taking a hard look at the NSA.
Here are a just a few questions we might ask Democratic-party chairman Howard Dean and the members of the judiciary and intelligence committees currently grousing for the cameras:
* Do you maintain databases of American citizens for fundraising purposes?
* Do those databases contain names, addresses, telephone numbers, e-mail addresses, and other identifying information?
* Do the databases contain information about the interests of the citizens who have been entered into them? About candidates or causes to which they have previously donated money?
* Are those databases searchable? If so, what search criteria do you use to divide these American citizens into various categories?
* Do you do targeted mailings for purposes of raising funds or pushing particular issues?
* When you target, how do you know whom to target? That is, what kind of information do you maintain in your databases to guide you about which potential donors or voters might be fruitful to tap on which particular issues?
* Do you trade information about American citizens with other politicians and organizations in the expectation that they might reciprocate and you all might mutually exploit the benefits?
Im betting the answers to these questions might prove pretty interesting.
Hard as this may be to comprehend, we may even find that our Big Brother on Capitol Hill has been collecting information on all of us
without (gasp!) judicial warrants.
The question is, as it so often is these days, WHERE on earth is the White House PR apparatus?
I have a feeling a lot of things will be changing, now that the "Snowman" is on the scene. I've already sensed a difference .. could be Josh Bolton as well, I'm sure.
I hope you are correct........it can't happen soon enough, IMHO.
BTTT
"Bush Derangement Syndrome" is a well-known phenomenon in the United States:
I saw those weazels, Hagel and Clinton on Fox News a while ago...all puffed up in indignation over this.
I already knew (because I am a freeper) that it was Bubba that got this made legal...but, there is his witch wife out there blasting President Bush...
Also, did you see where she is calling our kids "spoiled, lazy, selfish"?????
My nephew just went to Iraq, he is selfish, Hillary???
Sorry I got OT, Starwise, I am just so angry..
Also include McCain into my disgust.
FYI BUMP
When a news junkie like me is bored by all this, can you imagine the disinterest of the public at large?
Yeah, I know what you mean. I had a thought while watching FOX News Watch today when they were talking about sexual predators in the media and the media's intense focus on them as of late, I thought to myself, I haven't heard anything out of Iraq in a long time (outsideo of the outake video of a bungling Al-Zarqawi who couldn't shoot a gun), things must be really going good.
That's a revelation ... not once have I heard one 'talker' tell the truth about what Clinton did .. I'm still waiting. Not even one "journalist" chimed in with the truth or even a Pubbie.
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