Posted on 04/13/2006 3:20:37 PM PDT by PJ-Comix
Since benburch has the reputaion of being a flat out wacko, even among his fellow DUmmies, it caught my attention when I saw this THREAD posted by William Rivers (Pied Piper) Pitt with the following headline message: *BENBURCH NEEDS TO PM ME RIGHT NOW*. Of course, I had to click on the link to find out what was so important that Pied Piper Pitt needed to hear from benburch right away. Was it some sort of kinky sex act for which benburch has a reputation for engaging in? No. It turned out to be sensationalism of another nature. Pitt is DESPERATE to become part of Michael Moore's "documentary" about health care (wonder if Hillary will be interviewed for this?) and wants to contact benburch to get their stories right when presenting the case of Andy Stephenson to Moore. And, of course, Pitt is in DESPERATE need of presenting a cleansed account of the Andy Stephenson situation because he wants to place the doubts prevelant a year ago about the veracity of Stephenson squarely on the shoulders of the EVIL Freepers. See, in the Pied Piper Pitt fairy tale version, he heroically stood up to the Freepers which conveniently leaves out his own ATTACK upon Andy's veracity as you can see in the title of that thread, I'm pretty upset right now, and I need an explanation. And not only was Pitt troubled by the facts of the Andy Stephenson case. Head DUmmie Skinner himself expressed his dubiousness about all this in this THREAD titled, "About the Andy Stephenson situation." The end result was that Skinner finally banned outside fundraising in DUmmieland (prior to the Stephenson fundraiser, the DUmmies were scammed bigtime by Bev Harris). So now we have Pied Piper Pitt attempting to rewrite history with the help of DUmmie benburch. Sorry, Pitt. We have YOU on Record as to what you said at the time and there is NO denying it. And as to Andy's situation, he was supposedly diagnosed with pancreatic cancer as early as February of last year but chose to delay an operation until May because he wanted it done at Johns Hopkins rather than right away in his home state of Washington where the medical care was available to him there. I don't know if Moore will end up inserting some sort of fiction that Andy was denied healthcare because of EVIL rightwingers but the CONTRARY facts are right here on the Web. So let us now watch Pied Piper Pitt try to capitalize on Andy's death in Bolshevik Red while the comentary of your humble correspondent, reminding everyone out there unfamiliar with benburch to check up on his many DUmmieland postings to get an idea of what kind of lunatic asylum he is coming from, is in the [brackets]:
*BENBURCH NEEDS TO PM ME RIGHT NOW*
[We need to sanitize our stories before presenting them to Jabba the Shmuck.]
I just talked to a producer for Michael Moore's new health care documentary about Andy Stephenson. They are strongly considering putting his story - specifically the fact that he needed friends to fundraise for him - into the documentary. Ben, write me. Now.
[Ben, if you haven't yet been incarcerated, write me now. Hopefully you haven't been hanging around any schoolyards. Please, benburch, I wanna be in the movies. I wanna BEEEEEEEEE somebody!!!]
I hope they do his story ...fingers crossed.. That would be a great way to memorialize him..
[I can guarantee that this Pied Piper Pitt QUOTE will never make it into Jabba the Shmuck's documentary: "Why was I personally told this was pancreatic cancer? Why was I allowed to repeat this now-inaccurate diagnosis many times without anyone correcting me?"]
Will They Mention how the freeps conspired against him?
[Will they mention how Skinner AND Pied Piper Pitt "conspired" against him. Here is a Skinner QUOTE which is something LESS than a ringing endorsement: "I have my own opinion about whether this is legit or a hoax, but it is only that: an opinion. I do not know the truth."]
That story is so crazy and awful, and is also a little to the side of the main point of the documentary, which is the high cost of health care. They may include it to show how easy it is for someone's healet care to get messed with.
[I'm sure if Jabba the Shmuck includes the Stepehenson case in his "documentary" he will make Andy out to have been deprived of health care. The TRUE facts are that Stephenson could have gotten treatment from the get go in his home state of Washington but CHOSE to delay to get surgery at John's Hopkin's. Subsequently Andy passed away from a staph infection.]
Paging BENBURCH...
[Have you checked the bordertown massage parlors?]
Oh my god, what a wonderful tribute to Andy if his story was featured in a Michael Moore film.
[And you can be sure that Pied Piper Pitt is straining to get his mug before the cameras to capitalize on Andy's death.]
Isn't he the webmaster at The White Rose Society?
[Yes. When he isn't hanging out at the S&M parlors.]
Does anyone remember exactly how much $$$ was raised for Andy? I can't remember now but I know it was a lot.
[How much $$$ was scammed in DUmmieland by Bev Harris for her 5-star hotel suites?]
So I asked termite if he would go on-camera to talk about it...since he is the one who was there with Andy. Termite declined.
[Hmmmmmmmm...]
Mainstream exposure of what the freeps did to Andy Lies have to be hidden, but the truth can run around in the sunshine. Well the light of truth will shine on this story and expose the freeps for what they truly are
[How about mainstream exposure of what Pitt did to.....? And back to the topic at hand, here is another Pied Piper Pitt QUOTE: "But the 400 people who will come into this thread with "Andy doesn't need this stress" can hold your water. Andy is apparently a hell of a lot less ill than I and others were led to believe, and I need some answers."]
Andy's story was a classic example of how difficult it is for uninsured cancer patients to access quality health care. Its a disease where a delay of a week or more in getting treatment can mean the difference between life or death, its tragic. Cancer care is truly becoming an area where those who can't afford to pay get delayed or inferior care.
[Andy's story is an example of how someone DID have access in his home state to health care. Instead he chose delay in order to go to John's Hopkins after a lot of DUmmieland fundraising which raised the SUSPICIONS of even Skinner who subsequently banned such fundraising.]
The way you worded it could be interpreted a couple of different ways. Is Michael Moore is doing a new health care documentary about Andy Stephenson? Or was it that you talked---about Andy Stephenson---to Michael Moore's producer, who is doing a health care documentary? Either way... this whole thing could be a nice feather in your cap, eh?
[Do I detect I hint of dubiousness about Pied Piper Pitt's self-serving motivations?]
No feather for me. They reached out to me because Moore is doing a documentary on health care and was told by someone else that Andy's story should be part of the whole. I basically gave the producer the back story and then set her up with the people who were closest to the fundraising. If you look at Moore's site, you'll see his letter about the documentary. He is looking for healthcare horror stories from anyone who has one.
[You saw an opportunity for self-promotion and grabbed it, Pitt. Unfortunately for you, this edition of the DUmmie FUnnies is presenting FACTS that you conveniently want to forget or attempt to airbrush away with your future co-conspirator, benburch. If Jabba the Shmuck uses the Andy Stephenson case in his "documentary," there are many editions of the DUmmie FUnnies that can be referenced to set the record straight.]
I really hope this happens, if it is cool with Termite, because this is exactly what Andy wanted to do -- shine a light on our criminal excuse for a healthcare system.
[You can bet that any Jabba the Shmuck "documentary" on healthcare will be one long commercial as to why we need socialized medicine like they have in Canada.]
I hope they tell everything about his story - including the smear campaign while he was dying.
[Including quotes from PITT and SKINNER.]
The primary focus is on how we had to raise money to get him help. When in any decent nation on the planet, that would have been an understood part of citizenship. But my understanding is that they DO intend to go after the freepers at least in passing. Those goons should expect to come out of their places of employment to find camera crews waiting at their cars...
[Ah! DUmmie benburch finally emerges from the classified sex ads to "enlighten" us about Andy. Medical care WAS available to Andy in his home state of Washington but I wouldn't expect any documentary from Jabba the Shmuck to mention this.]
Yes, probably on Monday. We all miss him.
By the way, the "official position" of Scamdy, at this moment, waiting for things to develop, is in that old legal term (I forget it, even though it's on the tip of the tongue)....."the thing speaks for itself."
I think the Bostonian Idiot is making hay out of weeds, but I have been wrong before. Stay tuned.....
You know exactly what's going to happen, to kill this story with Michael Moore, once one of his representatives chats with the distruntled one.
The disgruntled one (aka "benburch") is a notorious paranoiac, and one can see it now......
.....yapping on and on and on and on about how the whole Scamdy thing was financed by Karl Rove, the Republican National Committee, a former political ally and employer of the late one, George Bush, Richard Cheney, P-J Comix, and even the WCTU (Women's Christian Temperance Union), who were "out" to get the late one because he was "too dangerous" for the survival of the present administration.
The disgruntled one is going to go on and on and on and on and on about this, until the representative of Michael Moore hangs up the telephone.
Top 50! Insert your own joke about what PM means here.
Speaking of DUmmie benburch, what happened to his GRAND SCHEME of sending MILLIONS of DUmmies into Washington, D.C. and overthrow the government? That thread of his was featured in a recent DUFU edition.
Then JUST before surgery...which was delayed because he needed a test first/JH lost the checks/paypal money was withheld because of freepers (take your pick, it's all here)...the diagnosis was (miraculously) changed to an BACK to an encapsulated tumor...which was good news, of course. Well, to everyone but Wee Willy who had his brush with reality meltdown PJ mentioned above. In spite of this, Andy had his whipple, which was a remarkable success as he was in and out of the hospital quicker than you can say "he could've gotten free healthcare in Seattle".
Then tragedy of tragedies, he finally makes it home with Termite...who it seems was able to take out a home equity loan to remodel the bathroom, but NOT to pay for life-saving surgery of his significant other...and what do you know, he gets a post-op infection and dies (in Virginia Mason, where presumably the state paid for his care). Then again, maybe the surgery wasn't so successful because supposedly the post-op infection weakened his resistence and the cancer spread throughout his whole body. Not only that, but evidently (in spite of the fact that Andy himself said the drugs were "rockin") he died in extreme pain. Those of us who were involved in the expose were threatened by Pitt (how is it these people who have NO money and are suffering under the evil Bush regime can afford to have lawyers on retainer...I don't even HAVE someone I call "my lawyer")...we're still waiting...guess he didn't have the cajones to pull it off after all.
I wondered about that myself.
I'm starting to think that the disgruntled one and the Bostonian Idiot are one and the same person, under different DUmmie screen-names, because the consequences of their solemn pronouncements is always.....zilch.
An addendum. Of course, I REALLY do NOT think they are the same person; I was just being facetious.
There are some who might disagree, but I rather think the disgruntled one is a better, more expert, more talented, writer than the Bostonian Idiot.
The Bostonian Idiot is full of pomp and fluff, and nothing else. The disgruntled one, when he is not in his often-occurring violent paranoiac rages, writes good simple prose.....which takes more talent than writing bad prose.
But the deal is to read the stuff the disgruntled one writes when he is calm; once the paranoia strikes him, they're just words randomly scattered around.
IF they could even get to my car at my place of work, they would be hauled off to jail for criminal trespass, and not by the local boys, either. Even local and state cops can't touch me at my place of work, for ANYTHING (and I really miffed a local boy when he followed me back to work to question me about an expired sticker on my car, and I told him he had no jurisdiction here. When he threatened to write me a ticket, MY BOSS told him HE was trespassing and to leave...)
MM and his merry band of idiots would have to deal with the POSTAL INSPECTORS, and they don't play nice...
Look at me.... Look at me.... I talked to FatBoys people.... look at me
Even though it's only April, I nominate that for "Understated Comment of the Year."
I'll second that nomination...
"The Bostonian Idiot is full of pomp and fluff, and nothing else."
He reminds me of Mr. Micawber in David Copperfield.
Res ipsa loquitor.
Thank you; it was on the tip of the tongue, but I never got past the first two words.
"The thing speaks for itself"--a principle long embedded in ancient English common law, where one is not required to prove something, because that thing proves itself.
That internet scam last year (about this very same time, as a matter of fact; my, how tempus does fugit!) was a dead skunk that no one needed to "prove" was a putrid rotten decaying dead skunk.
PJ, I hope that you keep this thread going through this weekend -- an earthly reward for Charles's selfless DUFU deprivation during Lent.
It's surprising to me that what's going on at the Dump with the major players in Andyscam could be construed as eagerness to be a part of MM's cinematic interpretation of "The Andy Stephenson Situation."
The smell of fear can be detected; it's panic time at the Dump. The April 2005 "diagnosis" done at JH that Pitt peddled on Conservative Underground came from whom? BB, Beth, Stephanie, or did the good doctor turn up at Bukowski's one rainy night in Boston and leave this "proof" with Ty, the doorman? Provenance is not a region in France.
Frank, "the thing speaks for itself" is "res ipsa loquitur" in legalese; another legal term with which they may be, at this very minute, scrambling to familiarize themselves, is "corrigenda"--"things to be corrected."
PJ, a lot of the young people at the beach last year became big fans of DUFU during the Andyscam. They apparently continue to follow it back at school and college. Tonight I received a copy of the whole DU thread as an attachment to an e-mail from a gang of them, with hilarious commentary.
Pitt is the object of their surprisingly sophisticated ridicule, something he is familiar with from his early years. But Beth inspires them to heights of humour only seen on DUFU. They, as callous yutes, take particular delight in her intellectual pretensions, riffing on her attributing to John Donne the Shakesperean sonnet CXVI, "Let me not to the marriage of true minds, Admit impediment. Love is not love which alters when it alteration finds, or bends with the remover to remove."
To BB's hope that Mikey treats "the surgeon well" in the movie, Beth responds, "The surgeon might be a good guy but his bulldogs were b...hes. When they couldn't find the check that was sitting on the mailroom sup's desk, she refused to talk to me any more and she had Andy escorted out of the building by security."
This certainly should renew the indignation at the Dump
It should also arouse something other than mirth in the Director of Johns Hopkins Security Department. Although JH is not mentioned in these posts.
Cindie, do you think they could be referring to the surgeon at Seattle's Country Doctor Clinic, with staff priveleges at Swedish Medical Center Providence, also in Seattle, who performed a stent placement on Andy, and was scheduled to perform further surgery at the end of April, until the date, according to "great aunt of triplets" was changed to May 2nd, or May 4th?
If this is the case, why would the finance department at Swedish Medical be looking for personal checks in the mailroom? Andy was on Medicaid from late February,with Medicaid paying medical expenses three month's retroactively.
Is Beth confusing "Kim" (the JH financial officer with whom she had a touching correspondence) with Karen Johnson, a nurse at Country Doctor Clinic, and Andy's primary care giver? Why would Swedish Medical's Security Department "escort Andy out of the building?"
Andy's surgical procedure on May 2nd or May 4th would have been invasive and extensive, requiring at least ten days in hospital recuperation, or longer. Abdominal surgery of the nature which even a benign growth on the bile duct would necessitate, would render the patient unable to walk even if escorted by security guards.
The Howland piece in the Seattle Weekly apparently indicated that Karen Johnson knew of a cancer diagnosis and knew about Andy and Johns Hopkins. As Andy's primary care person, Mrs. Johnson with the staff at Country Doctor Clinic would have been able to refer Andy to Johns Hopkins and his Medicaid would have covered his treatment there, if, as the Howland article indicates, this was the case.
It is reasonable to expect that Karen Johnson, as Andy's primary care giver, and according to DU posts at the time, Andy's close personal friend, will have important information to relate to the producer of this epic, information that is unavailable to the Dump, at this time.
A DU gadfly, "arwalden" has another, more pointed message for Will.
"I'll bet Andy's Mom and Ted (termite) are THRILLED At This News! Have they been contacted yet? Have you personally spoken with them? What do they have to say about it? Are THEY as eager to participate and get involved as you are? It's all very exciting, isn't it?"
I suppose Skinner will delete this thread before Charles returns.
Thanks for another great DUFU. I really needed it after this week.
Happy Easter, Good Passover, to all those on FR who celebrate these solemn, joyous, holy days.
This maye, might could be some fun! LOL
The Bostonian Idiot is boring!
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