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What Lies Beneath (retread troll zotted)
FireDogLake.com ^ | 4/11/06 | Matt O.

Posted on 04/11/2006 12:58:36 AM PDT by billyakovich

Frequently readers post comments with racial slurs such as “raghead” and “mooselimbs,” racist anecdotes, castration, charges of a low intellect, wiping their rear with the Koran, calls for a new crusade, violence towards and mass murder of all Muslims, the destruction of Islam and white supremacist-esque language like “It’s time we asserted our culture” and “moral and cultural superiority.” It seems that liberals are now by definition terrorists and labeled as such. They speak of Arabs and Muslims in much the same ways that a racist southerner would speak of blacks in the 1950s.

Responsible? Not quite.

(Excerpt) Read more at firedoglake.com ...


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To: billyakovich

"It seems that liberals are now by definition terrorists..."

According to Ann Coulter's new book, "Liberals are Godless". Cavuto will be interviewing her about the book tomorrow afternoon.


21 posted on 04/11/2006 1:19:45 AM PDT by Fruit of the Spirit
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To: billyakovich

OK, what is "LGF"?


22 posted on 04/11/2006 1:20:30 AM PDT by meyer (Dems are stuck on stupid. Al Gore invented stupid.)
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To: Neil E. Wright; MEG33

*Sigh*

I would LOVE to break out my own ZOT graphics but I'm not really sure about this one yet.


23 posted on 04/11/2006 1:20:54 AM PDT by pcottraux (It's pronounced "P. Coe-troe.")
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To: Cindy
I understand how the Times can act like elitist fools, but I'm not understanding how that relates to my post, Cindy. What I'm curious and interested in discussing on this topic is how often times we use generalizations and stereotypes to describe an enemy, who in reality is not an entire culture but a band of extremists who have the audacity, resources and stupidity to attack our ways of life.
24 posted on 04/11/2006 1:22:32 AM PDT by billyakovich
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To: meyer

Little Green Footballs, a conservative Web site along the same lines as DailyKos for the left but more post oriented rather than forum-esque like FR.


25 posted on 04/11/2006 1:24:07 AM PDT by billyakovich
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To: billyakovich

You're welcome.

OPINION: Personally Mr. Yakovich, if you have a concern with the way LGF operates, go over to the Open Thread and post your opinion there or send
LGF an email, whichever is easier.

By using the direct approach you are confronting your concern head on.

Anyway, that's my 2 cents on the subject.


26 posted on 04/11/2006 1:26:22 AM PDT by Cindy
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To: MEG33

I totally understand, but until someone shows me an argument like this with linked references, I'm willing to stand by and say that although I might not share the same political mindset with the gentleman who wrote this, I will say that he presents a coherent and tangible discussion.

And that sir, counts. If anything, likeminded Freepers could learn from this and show how the Left does the same.


27 posted on 04/11/2006 1:26:29 AM PDT by billyakovich
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To: billyakovich

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/1612312/posts


DUmmie FUnnies ^ | April 10, 2006 | steve2470, DUmmies, and PJ-Comix


Posted on 04/10/2006 5:57:27 AM CDT by PJ-Comix

samples from DU
"To you CIA/NSA spooks, I'm not advocating violence here, so just relax. Let's just say, theoretically, that nothing stops Bushco and Repugs and the fascism continues to grow. Would anyone with influence in the military try to organize a true coup and take back the country? Or...would we really be SOL in that case ? I sure hope we never get to that point in reality."

snip
"Is Christian fundamentalism a significant factor in the high echelons of the military? Is "echelons" the right word? Off the top of my head, I can't think of anything much scarier than Christian Dominionist types at command level. "




28 posted on 04/11/2006 1:26:37 AM PDT by MEG33 ( GOD BLESS OUR ARMED FORCES)
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To: billyakovich; Admin Moderator
Why the frack would I wanna discuss an article that wants to "understand" is-slime??? Everything I need to know about is-slime, I learned on 9/11.

So take your Barbara Streisand to someplace else. You signed up today to post a touchy-feely, lets "understand" their position BS and I'm not buying it. As far as I'm concerned, this fracking thread should be pulled forthwith.

I'll leave it to the mods as to whether you should be zotted or not.

29 posted on 04/11/2006 1:26:58 AM PDT by Neil E. Wright (An oath is FOREVER)
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To: billyakovich

Because the extremists are backed or at the VERY LEAST not decried by the entire culture, or virtually anyone in that culture.

What would you say if your child was murdered in CA and the people in CA, all of them, hid him and didn't say a word against him and most defended him?
If they fed him and lent him their cars and bikes and whatever else he needed?
Uh huh, i thought so.


30 posted on 04/11/2006 1:28:04 AM PDT by Shimmer128
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To: Cindy

Thanks for understanding, Cindy, but please see my above post as to why I posted this. There are so many vanity posts on FR it can be nauseating, and this isn't to gripe about LGF but to examine our language and even the tactics used to present a coherent argument that can gain traction, something much better than "liberals suck" or some cliche recycling of ho-hum abbreviations and plays on words.

We've got brains. Let's use them. Thank you for being civil and again for the link...I'm still sifting through the comments.


31 posted on 04/11/2006 1:29:45 AM PDT by billyakovich
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To: billyakovich

Well, thanks for your response.

It's late for me so I'll just be direct.
I KNOW who the enemy is and I
never generalize.

A good morning to you.


32 posted on 04/11/2006 1:30:22 AM PDT by Cindy
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To: billyakovich

Generalization is always healthy, practical and wise until further information about a person is obtained.


33 posted on 04/11/2006 1:31:28 AM PDT by Raycpa
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To: Neil E. Wright

I can see you and I will not be able to debate, as you're combative and not open to any such discussion. Thanks for your input, Neil.

I don't see why I should be banned for simply wanting to discuss someone's research, regardless of their political affiliation or forum, when it remarks on conservative's behavior. If that's the case, then so be it. I was hoping to return to FR and discuss issues with likeminded folks.


34 posted on 04/11/2006 1:33:31 AM PDT by billyakovich
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To: billyakovich

Do me a favor before the Zot: the the DUmmies to wizen up.


35 posted on 04/11/2006 1:34:43 AM PDT by Number57
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To: Number57

the = tell


36 posted on 04/11/2006 1:35:35 AM PDT by Number57
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To: Raycpa

I disagree, as generalizations often ushers us into comfortable territory, which is treacherous when trying to evaluate a foreign situation.

Puzzles are best put together when you have all the pieces.


37 posted on 04/11/2006 1:36:34 AM PDT by billyakovich
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To: billyakovich

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/1606740/posts

from DU
"I am psychologically affected by my worry about the future that awaits my child. I am tired of waking up in the middle of the night after dreams of Armageddon brought about by a cackling sociopath who prays for the 'honor' of bringing about the End Times that he believes is his destiny."


[You have nightly dreams of Armageddon and yet you attack Bush for being a cackling sociopath?]


"I am shocked by my rage. I am a peaceful person. I am a lover. A mother. A sister. A good friend. I volunteer. I raise money for those less fortunate. But I hate him. Yes I do. I hate his guts and everything he says and does. I have never hated anyone in my life. But I do hate him. And for those who say they don't hate the man but hate his actions, I say, I hate the man and I hate his actions, because they are one and the same. You are what you do. And he is Hitler reincarnated. He is a mass murderer. He is an empty shell, void of humanity. And he deserves to be hated, and I do hate him. And I do not have a problem with that. "



Nary a worry about Islamofacism here..just Bush .Isn't it special?


38 posted on 04/11/2006 1:36:47 AM PDT by MEG33 ( GOD BLESS OUR ARMED FORCES)
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To: billyakovich

Mr. Yakovich,

Before I go, have you read this?!


http://gatesofvienna.blogspot.com/2006/04/those-racist-lizardoids.html

Monday, April 10, 2006
"Those Racist Lizardoids"


ARTICLE SNIPPET: "Looks like you can file Firedoglake under useful idiots. Lenin would have loved that blog."


39 posted on 04/11/2006 1:38:00 AM PDT by Cindy
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To: Number57

If we are not going to discuss the article I posted, then let's just stop talking to each other.

I wanted debate and I got a bunch of cats with their tails flared out. If you don't like what you read then let's simply move on.


40 posted on 04/11/2006 1:38:37 AM PDT by billyakovich
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