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1 posted on 02/17/2006 6:34:16 AM PST by Valin
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To: Valin

DRAFT PENCE!


2 posted on 02/17/2006 6:36:02 AM PST by theworkersarefew (pence08.com)
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To: Valin
Secretary Rice combines an unwavering hawkish foreign policy with socially moderate positions on abortion, race relations, etc.

So, I gather that the "socially moderate" view on infanticide is that it's OK.

But what is the "socially moderate" view on race relations? And what is the "socially conservative" view purported to be?

3 posted on 02/17/2006 6:37:02 AM PST by B Knotts
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To: Valin

Does anyone know her stance on issues like the environment, student loans, affordable housing, the middle class, taxes, abortion, the military, energy and social spending?


4 posted on 02/17/2006 6:38:49 AM PST by Idisarthur
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To: Valin
I do not think Rice is a moderate. Moderates are people who have NO ideal of what to do and want someone else to be the leader. I will never vote for a moderate!

Moderates are not leaders they are followers of whatever or whomever controls the leadership.
7 posted on 02/17/2006 6:42:02 AM PST by YOUGOTIT
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To: Valin

I doubt this will happen.


8 posted on 02/17/2006 6:42:58 AM PST by stuartcr (Everything happens as God wants it to.....otherwise, things would be different.)
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To: Valin; All

I have no problem if Condi wants to run (I will vote for her if she does). But how many times does she have to say NO before these people get it into their thick heads?


9 posted on 02/17/2006 6:44:47 AM PST by areafiftyone (Politicians Are Like Diapers, Both Need To Be Changed Often And For The Same Reason!)
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To: Valin

Condi Rice says she's not running. She has said it again and again. Why put energy into a false hope.

Besides, it would be hard as heck to consider Rice a conservative. She is not.

This isn't going to happen. Better to find a good, strong, conservative candidate with good personal appeal qualities.


13 posted on 02/17/2006 6:47:23 AM PST by MineralMan (godless atheist)
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To: Valin

We might be better off worrying about what happens in 2006 instead of what might be happening in 2008.


17 posted on 02/17/2006 6:48:32 AM PST by claudiustg (Delenda est Iran!)
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To: Valin
The worst thing the GOP could do is run Condi for President against Hitlery.

The people who don't want a woman president would just stay home, who would otherwise vote against Hillary.

Black people won't vote for Condi just because she is black anymore than conservatives voted for John Kerry because he was a war hero, to assume otherwise is to insult the black community. If anything a Condi run could turn out the black community in greater numbers than ever to defeat what they would see as an uncle tom candidate.

Plus Condi is a baby killer, and if I remember right gun grabber, which would force the entire republican base to stay home, ensuring a socialist democratic win.
19 posted on 02/17/2006 6:51:23 AM PST by conservative physics
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To: Valin

Maybe if Condi wants to get to power, she has to do it herself!!!


20 posted on 02/17/2006 6:53:47 AM PST by tkathy (Ban the headscarf (http://bloodlesslinchpinsofislamicterrorism.blogspot.com))
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To: Valin; SmithL; rdb3; Khepera; elwoodp; MAKnight; condolinda; mafree; Trueblackman; FRlurker; ...

FYI...................PING


23 posted on 02/17/2006 6:55:29 AM PST by JulieRNR21 (I'd Rather Hunt With Dick Cheney; Than Take a Drive With Ted Kennedy!)
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To: Valin

The GOP needs a governor,not a senator or a former Bush admin. member to run. Condi would be ok as a VP.


24 posted on 02/17/2006 6:58:07 AM PST by Brett66 (Where government advances – and it advances relentlessly – freedom is imperiled -Janice Rogers Brown)
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To: Valin
Traditionally valued people may have a hard time swallowing a Rice candidacy because of her views on abortion.

Putting Rice in as VP to McCain would be destroying any possibility of her running for any office later. McCain is poison. If it comes down to a race between him and Hillary, I'm voting Constitution Party. I won't have either one of them.
25 posted on 02/17/2006 6:58:21 AM PST by JamesP81
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Who we really need is Ken Blackwell to run for president. Although, I understand that Ohioans are not keen on giving him up if he wins the race their for governor.


26 posted on 02/17/2006 6:59:21 AM PST by JamesP81
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To: Valin
Rice's Appeal

The notion of a Rice presidency is appealing to three different groups within the GOP....

First and foremost is the moderate wing of the party [who]...is a deeply religious person who is nonetheless not, politically speaking, guided by religion. And as such, she appeals to Republicans worried about the rise of Evangelicals evident during the Bush presidency.

Puleeeese...

The author's "first and foremost" appeal of Rice's being a "moderate" is akin the bragging that's she's a RINO. Her pro-choice postion is indicative, as well as her globalist philosophy.

NO THANKS.

27 posted on 02/17/2006 7:01:22 AM PST by F16Fighter
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"And as such, she appeals to Republicans worried about the rise of Evangelicals evident during the Bush presidency."

Without evangelical grassroots support, there is no Republican majority.

Biting the hand that feeds, indeed.


35 posted on 02/17/2006 7:14:49 AM PST by Frank T
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Silly...:

Sadly, the probability of a disrespectful whispering campaign about Rice's sexual orientation during the primaries -- in an attempt to rob from her early pivotal contests such as South Carolina -- must be taken into consideration by anyone serious about a Rice candidacy.

Just as with Schwarzenegger's storied sexual indiscretion, such rumor-mongering would serve only to bolster the vote among the blue-staters...

47 posted on 02/17/2006 8:35:14 AM PST by no-s
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"This also ties to the third group Rice appeals to, the 'Emerging Majority' Republicans and the pragmatically-oriented apparatchiks and wonks in conservative think-tanks throughout the country. This wing may value Rice's moderation (and competence) not only for its own sake, but also for its political potential. After all, if the GOP succeeded in locking in a two-term candidate in 2008, it will have ruled with only one interruption (Clinton) for 36 years from 1980 to 2016. This would give the GOP the status of a default choice for government in a way that would force the Democrats to move rightwards in order to remain in contention. In the long run, there is no better prospect for the conservative movement."

I don't buy this. Reagan won his presidencies in part by attracting Democrat voters, not simply the "moderates" from the middle. Blue collar workers were concerned about their jobs, given the economic problems going on at the time (stagflation, etc). That concern didn't change, just which ideology they were more confident in bringing it about.

What the author is suggesting is to change the ideology. How will that attract voters across party lines in the future? It won't. Hewing leftward will only enable the Democrats to lurch futher left themselves.

Without the Reagan and first Bush presidencies, would there have been the DLC? Whatever else the problems with Clinton, he was no McGovern or Jimmy Carter.

Appealing to moderates is a bad idea, and the big brains who suggest these kinds of things should learn from recent history a little better.

What's assumed in this political calculus is that conservative voters will stick around and keep voting these big government Republican types. They won't!


48 posted on 02/17/2006 9:44:24 AM PST by Frank T
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Why would anybody want Condoleeza Rice in the Oval Office? She's simply not Presidential material. Is this just another case of new-age man bowing and scraping to women? I don't get it.


50 posted on 02/17/2006 11:58:44 AM PST by TheCrusader ("The frenzy of the mohammedans has devastated the Churches of God" Pope Urban II ~ 1097A.D.)
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