Posted on 02/16/2006 9:02:29 PM PST by Momaw Nadon
Is war with Iran inevitable? If it is, I fear it could easily escalate to engulf the entire world. There are many paths that a conflict with Iran could take, and some of them are very unappealing. But what is to be done? Nothing? Doing nothing has consequences too.
The following worst-case scenario is in the form of newspaper headlines:
West imposes economic sanctions on Iran
Iran ignores sanctions, continues drive for nukes
Funding for anti-regime movements increased
Internal opposition to Iran regime fails
Iran successfully tests nuke, claims to have over 10 more
Israel and Iran in tense nuclear standoff
U.S. and allies launch massive conventional airstrike on Iran
Iran calls Islamic world to arms against West
Israel shoots down several Iranian missiles, payloads uncertain
Tel Aviv, three other Israeli cities destroyed in second Iran nuclear strike
Israel and U.S. retaliate: Millions dead in Iran
Syria, Pakistan declare war against Israel and U.S.
Syria, Egypt invade Israel
India enters war, exchanges nukes with Pakistan
North Korea invades South Korea under cover of Middle East War
U.S. nukes invading North Korean army
Draft reinstated to bolster stretched U.S. forces
China invades Taiwan, warns U.S. not to interfere
Russia joins war on the side of Iran
U.S., Europe in massive nuclear exchange with Russia and China
Over 1 billion dead as world staggers from global war
Fallout, starvation kills 3 billion more people
Please post alternative scenarios/timelines if you wish.
Do you think the above scenario is improbable?
What course do you think an armed conflict with Iran will take?
What is the best-case scenario?
I pray you are wrong, but in my gut I feel you are right. These coming weeks are going to be life changing times. Our President is in charge, what can we do, but hold on to our love ones and hope and pray some reason and humanity comes to that crazy mullah in Persia or at least some Delta Force member puts a bullet between his eyes.
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Ping for later
I believe at some point the prophecy of Revelation will fully play out. Is this the time? I have no idea. Hal Lindsey has made many mistakes, but his premise that John was allowed to see the final battles, and that some of his descriptions were those of a first century man describing mechanized warfare ring true to me.
There will be wars and rumors of wars. The temple will be rebuilt. A seven year treaty will be signed. It will be violated half way through. There will not be true peace in the middle east, not in this world. How many wars will there be before the last one? I have no idea.
You all forgot about the Venezuela-Cuba axis
I was hoping that you would say that I am out of my mind for considering such an outcome and that my fears are completely unfounded.
I pray that the worst-case scenario is wrong too.
We would most likely try and come to the aid of the S. Korean armed forces and push the N. Koreans back as we did before.
The other part I think unlikely, short of an initial strike by the other side, is the US and EU nuking Russia and China. As I said, if they fired first (which you should make clear in your scenario), then it would most certainly happen.
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What is your opinion?
Of possible interest.
As for Taiwan, we could let them fight for themselves, which they are highly capable of doing. We give them intelligence help only. Taking a highly fortified island is probably the most difficult military operation there is. Taiwan has a powerful airforce that can match mainland China's. They have a modern navy and missles that can sink a naval invasion. Does China want to lose the core of their military on this little island? I say no, not until they have built up a much bigger military machine.
If N. Korea decides to plunge into a bloody battle with the South they will take massive losses this time around, because the South is well prepared for them. We give S. Korea air support and intel. and the North invades in vain. I see some give and take by both sides, back and forth, but essentially a standoff, with the North taking more serious losses than they bargained for. There would be no POW's, only dead bodies everywhere.
I can see Iran nuking Israel if the U.S. and Israel don't act soon to set Iran back another ten years, but then Iran will cease to exist and there is NOBODY left in the middle east to worry about. If Israel did get nuked I don't think anybody would be in a hurry to rush in and get irradiated, so I don't understand why Syria and Egypt would suddenly rush into a nuclear-smoldering Israel, because they too would get nuked and they are not huge nations (like China), that could afford to be hit with several nukes.
Right now what is going on is a whole lot of bluff and bluster by Iran and to a lesser degree, Russia. I have learned a valuable lesson about Islam; they are essentially cowards who will recruit other men to go die for them, while their leaders themselves hide like quivering rats in filthy caves. The leaders and mullahs of Iran do not want to get fried for their faith, they want other muslims to do it for them. But when you've got the nuclear arsenal of the U.S. bearing down on you, then they all die.
So I say Iran will not nuke anybody at this time, but they eventually will if they are allowed to continue on with their plans. But it probably won't be a missle strike against Isreal where they will be massively retaliated against. Iran will likely do it the cowardly way, (possibly against the U.S.), THROUGH SELLING THEIR NUKES TO TERRORISTS so they can do the job for them. This is the way of the "brave" leaders of the 'mujahadeen'. They are just too weak and too cowardly to confront the U.S. in a nuclear exchange.
Anyway, I place my trust in God. When the Soviet Union was threatening us they had several "mysterious" nuclear disasters within their military. The hand of God will decide the fate of the world; so the most important thing for all of us to do is PRAY, PRAY, PRAY, PRAY, PRAY. God will not let His people be defeated by evil, if, that is, we show Him that we really are His people.
Your time line needs to account for 400 - 370 Israeli warheads, although some targets - Mecca, Medina, Tehran, Cairo, Damascus etc... go without saying.
You missed a step in there:
Shock and Awe: In Daring Raid; Israeli Forces
Decapitate Iranian Military, Raids Ongoing
Reports of IAF Nuclear Counterstrike Unconfirmed
And God has stated in his instruction manual that he will not let his creation, the earth, be destroyed. We may play at the peripheral all we like, but the owner makes the rules.
Vezuela-Cuba-Iran.
They'd be among the first involved in an attack on us. That's why Hugo is arming.
Possible up to the point of russia getting involved...you really think they'd rather face destruction than see iran attacked? Not a chance.
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