Posted on 01/27/2006 11:04:17 AM PST by Lindykim
Greek mythology tells the tale of Prometheus, a Titan who envied Zeus his godlike powers. Driven by his covetousness, he stole some of Zeus's power, then was caught and punished by being tied to a rock. The underlying assumption of this myth is that man and God are antagonists. Man covets godlike powers, but since God refuses to share any of his power, man must take it---or steal it.
In ancient pagan civilizations, Promethean men were able to give free reign to the dark impulses that urged them to become as 'gods.' Although they lacked the ability to create life, they exercised complete control over all matters of life and death. They could dictate who was a free-man with rights and who was a lesser beingan animated tool or animated sex toywith no rights whatsoever. Promethean man was absolute sovereign and lawmaker. His lusts, jealousies, dark impulses---all became law if he so chose them to be.
It was Biblical religion, and more specifically the Genesis account of creation, that overthrew the classic pagan worldview model with its all-powerful State controlled by totalitarian god-like Promethean men. All of this was repugnant to the Biblical model wherein the Genesis account proclaimed God as Sovereign and Lawmaker. It was He who had created all men and no one was to enslave other men or to treat them as 'lesser beings." Neither were His children to be 'subsumed' into nature, for He had given all of His children dominion over the earth, and they could own land and make use of the earth's resources. In America's founding documents, all statements about equality and freedom as inalienable and inherent rights of all human persons have their basis in the Genesis account. Similarly, because our lives are precious to our Creator, we have the right to keep and bear arms in order to protect our lives and those of our loved ones. This view of man and the world was totally alien to the ancient pagan way of doing things.
However, not everyone was pleased with the Biblical model. While all of the former 'lesser beings' were delighted to be free of their oppressors, Promethean men were not happy campers. Thus it was that a group of Enlightenment conspirators, two of whom were Frederick Engel's and Karl Marx, who by temperament was Promethean, devised an ideology based on ancient communal living (communism). Their scheme was to overthrow Western Christian-Judeo civilization and to reconstitute society on the basis of their ideology. What they needed, but lacked, to make their system into a bona-fide worldview was a creation account.
All major civilizations throughout the history of the world began with a creation account which told man where he came from, how he got here, why he is here, and what's wrong with man and the world. The creation account is the authoritative foundation which animates and supports the divine orders (natural laws) that lay down the law for both human and natural order.
Perhaps it was at this point that Screwtape began to choreograph events by steering Marx to Darwin's book. For it was in Darwin's 'Origin of Species' that the conspirators happily discovered the black magic key that would allow them to believe they could steal God's power. After Marx read Darwin's book, he wrote to Engel's and said, " although it is developed in the crude English style, this is the book which contains the basis in natural history for our view." (Source: "Gods that Fail: Peter Singer and the Darwinian Left," review by Eric Jones).
Marx and Engel's incorporated Darwin's theory into their communist ideology. The synthesized version became 'scientific dialectical materialism." It was in this manner that the two conspirators transformed their ideology into 'absolute scientific truth."
The creation story they gained, and by which they declared the 'death of God,' must have been authored by Screwtape thus for obvious reasons, they preferred to keep it out of the limelight. It essentially states: "In the beginning was non-life bearing, non-intelligence bearing matter which, with neither rhyme nor reason, accidentally self-created by virtue of an accidentally caused quantum fluctuation, which had likewise mysteriously self-created for no purpose nor reason." The moral of this story is: Never make deals with Screwtape---he has a devilish sense of humor.
Trumpeting the death of God, Promethean's calling themselves "Darwinian scientists' immediately set about the business of abolishing mankind. With glee born of darkest envy, they stripped him of his soul, free will and conscience, and then declared that he was but a mechanistic monkey-man. Or in Herr Scientist Frederick Engel's words: "Darwin has given us an approximate description of these ancestors of ours. They were completely covered with hair had beards pointed ears and they lived in bands in trees." (www.newyouth.com)
Thus was the world forcefully thrust into Screwtape's "Age of Scientism," wherein Darwinian communiststhe animated tools of Screwtape and his hellish minions-- unleashed rivers of human blood on a planetary dimension---all in pursuit of producing scientifically engineered Un-man and a Promethean Utopia.
In observation of the scientifically-induced hellish madness unleashed onto the world, "The Black Book of Communism" offers the following insights and indictments:
" the roots of Marxist-Leninism are not to be found in Marx at all, but in a deviant version of Darwinism Crimes against humanity are the product of an ideology that reduces people to a condition, be it ideological, racial, or sociohistorical." (pg. 752)
" transformation of ideology and politics into absolute 'scientific' truth is the basis of the totalitarianism dimension of Communism. The party answered only to science. Science justified the terror by requiring that all aspects of social and individual life be transformed." (pg. 739)
"This biological or zoological strain of thinking enables us to understand why so many crimes of Communism were crimes against humanity and how Marxist-Leninist ideology managed to justify these crimes to its followers." (pg. 751)
On page 4, are these grim statistics:
USSR: 20 million deaths China: 65 million deaths Vietnam: 1 million deaths N. Korea: 2 million deaths E. Europe: 1 million deaths Latin America: 150,000 Africa: 1.7 million deaths
The total approaches 100 million 'animalized' humans shot, gassed, burned, electrocuted, starved, gunned down, beaten to death, impaled, beheaded or otherwise murdered under the authority of 'absolute science.'
The soul and life destroying "biological and zoological strain" of madness is at this very moment poisoning and warping the minds of Americans and being force-fed to our children. Our children are being made to view themselves through Lucifer's "burning eye of envy" in Darwinist textbooks. "You are an animal and share a common heritage with earthworms." (Source: Johnson, "Biology" as quoted in Norris Anderson "Education or Indoctrination? Analysis of Textbooks in Alabama, 1995, pg. 6)
The anti-human totalitarianism and Promethean megalomania comes through loud and clear in Thomas C. Clark's odious assertions in "Crime and Causality: Do Killers Deserve to Die?" Keep in mind that Clark, who doesn't view himself as an ape, is obnoxiously lecturing all of the lesser beings whom he believes to be mechanistic monkeys. What he's saying in his pompous gasbag manner is that since "God is dead" and we are but human apes, it's time we accept our fate to become subsumed (embedded) into nature. Naturally his Darwinian-induced thimble-wittedness is hee-hawed under the authority of absolute science: "Many have resisted, and will continue to resist, the epistemic authority of science, since it requires we abandon those beloved conceptions of freedom, dignity, and moral agency and responsibility in which persons are understood to be causally privileged over the rest of nature science proposes naturalized conceptions of freedom, and responsibility which embed persons fully within the causal network" (www.naturalism.org) If Darwinian scientism was a road atlas, it would ever lead to but one destination Hell. If it was a multipurpose set of building instructions, they would ever build but one thing Hell.
Dr. T. N. Tahmision (Atomic Energy Commission USA) pegged Darwinian evolutionists as 'con men." He commented, "Scientists who go about teaching that evolution is a fact of life are great con-men, and the story they are telling may be the greatest hoax ever. In explaining evolution, we do not have one iota of fact." ('The Fresno Bee," Aug. 20, 1959, as quoted by N.J. Mitchell, "Evolution and the Emperor's New Clothes," 1983, title page)
Even after the passage of more than two thousand years, we can see that Prometheus has yet to grow up. Still ruled by Narcissus and the dark passions of envy, covetousness, hatred and vengeance-seeking which she so adroitly keeps aflame, Prometheus remains doomed as a result to serve as Screwtape's 'animated tool."
I'll be glad to help.
How much information is contained in the DNA sequence of the simplest cell?
By what definition of information? Shannon information? Kolmogorov information? Hamming information? Or some other measure of information content?
And define "simplest cell". Hell, define "simple". Fewest unique proteins? Smallest? Shortest genome? Fewest genes? Least polymorphic genome?
And define "cell" -- do viruses count? How about a mitochondria? A chloroplast?
Phi-X 174, a virus of E. coli, has a genome of 5,386 basepairs containing 10 genes. A muman mitochondrion has a genome of 16,569bp, 37 genes. Epstein-Barr virus has a genome of 172,282bp, 80 genes. Nanoarchaeum equitans (a parasitic archaean) has a genome of 490,885bp, with 552 genes, the smallest genome of a self-contained organism yet found.
If you want a more specific answer, you'll have to clarify your question.
Does science have ways of measuring quantities of information?
Yes, it has many ways, depending upon the specific application.
Why does DNA information not tend to degrade into randomness as the laws of physics would predict?
First, the "laws of physics" do not "predict" this. I see you've been reading the creationist pamphlets on the Second Law of Thermodynamics -- they always get that one wrong (2).
There are, however, processes which tend to damage DNA over time under most conditions, even though the laws of physics do not *require* this to inevitably occur, but these are overcome by (drumroll please) the processes involved in evolution, namely reproduction coupled with natural selection.
What are some documented examples of information being produced by non-life?
See also:
The Origins of Order: Self Organization and Selection in Evolution. By Stuart Kauffman, S. A. (1993) Oxford University Press, NY, ISBN: 0195079515.Compositional genomes: Prebiotic information transfer in mutually catalytic noncovalent assemblies
Eigen M, and Schuster P, The hypercycle. A principle of natural self-organization. Springer-Verlag, isbn 3-540-09293, 1979
The origin of genetic information: viruses as models
Compositional genomes: prebiotic information transfer in mutually catalytic noncovalent assemblies
Stadler PF, Dynamics of autocatalytic reaction networks. IV: Inhomogeneous replicator networks. Biosystems, 26: 1-19, 1991
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Apolipoprotein AI Mutations and Information
Creationist Claim CB102: Mutations are random noise; they do not add information.
Evolution of biological information
Evolution of biological complexity
Evolution and Information: The Nylon Bug
Examples of Beneficial Mutations and Natural Selection
Gene duplications in evolution of archaeal family B DNA polymerases
Koch, AL: Evolution of antibiotic resistance gene function. Microbiol Rev 1981, 45:355378.
Selection in the evolution of gene duplications
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If information cannot be produced by non-life,
It can.
how was the first DNA sequence in the simplest cell created?
In a stepwise fashion. See above.
Grapple away. I am grateful for any answers that you can provide to a poor, benighted Creationist.
Glad to help.
So many mistakes, so much ignorance, so much fear - what a complete and utter waste of the written word.
ROFL! Even leaving aside your misrepresentations (Christianity is hardly equivalent to "Freedom based on principled responsibility enabling free-markets" -- for nearly two thousand years it was used to justify feudalism and theocracy), your asking to choose between "communism and Christianity" is about as meaningless as insisting that someone choose between "giraffes and typewriters".
Christianity is a religion. Communism is an economic system. It is entirely possible for someone to advocate *both* (or reject both), and many people do. It's hardly the "either/or" you make it out to be. They are not opposite sides of one coin.
" Don't be obnoxious."
Stop being evasive.
"And don't be disingenuous...I don't need to tell you about anything which happened before Darwin was published. Just because two people write at different times does not mean they do not have similar ideas. And that these 2 men did is pointed out by Marx himself. If you choose to guess Marx's motives as only wanting prestige from the relationship that's up to you."
So, you STILL can't show in what ways Marx's ideas were influenced by Darwin.
"I would appreciate you not pinging me again as you say the same things over and over again. Thanks."
You're welcome. :)
Personally, I don't resist the epistemic authority of science operating in its proper field. That is not the same thing as saying that all of reality reduces to that authority. Science treats of "physical" things. Period. The other branch of the epistemic divide treats of spiritual things -- things of vital importance to man like language, history, the arts, philosophy, theology, and so forth. Science has zero purchase there. Yet scientistic ideologues claim that, since science can't deal with such things owing to its own methodological limitations, such things must not exist.
This is a tremendous leap of faith (or counter-faith) on their part -- a leap that extinguishes all that is of utmost value to human kind, and what makes man distinctive.
Meanwhile, man stubbornly continues to be what he is: "psyche in soma," an embodied spiritual being.
Screwtape does have a sense of humor after all. But I don't have to appreciate his "little jokes."
Fine article, Lindykim. Thanks ever so much for posting it.
Thanks so much for the ping, bondserv! Please see post #151 below.
Except that marx and Engels had already published their theories years before Darwin ever published his. And Stalin banned the teaching of darwinism.
I could have also posted the quote where Hitler said that his hatred of Jews came from Christianity. Maybe that would have made the point that just because somebody claims they got their ideas from someone else doesn't mean that it's so.
I often ping out Linda Kimball's articles; haven't read this one yet. Might want to check it out. Does look as tho it's turning into a evofundies bash God believers party, though.
You do realize that some us both have faith in God and also accept the overwhelming evidence for evolution?
I know, a lot of people hold internally inconsistent beliefs.
Powerful essay. Thank you for posting it.
Being direct, why did you ping me to that drivel?
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