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To: Lindykim; Alamo-Girl; marron; hosepipe
"Many have resisted, and will continue to resist, the epistemic authority of science, since it requires we abandon those beloved conceptions of freedom, dignity, and moral agency and responsibility in which persons are understood to be causally privileged over the rest of nature…science proposes naturalized…conceptions of freedom, and responsibility which embed persons…fully within the causal network"

Personally, I don't resist the epistemic authority of science operating in its proper field. That is not the same thing as saying that all of reality reduces to that authority. Science treats of "physical" things. Period. The other branch of the epistemic divide treats of spiritual things -- things of vital importance to man like language, history, the arts, philosophy, theology, and so forth. Science has zero purchase there. Yet scientistic ideologues claim that, since science can't deal with such things owing to its own methodological limitations, such things must not exist.

This is a tremendous leap of faith (or counter-faith) on their part -- a leap that extinguishes all that is of utmost value to human kind, and what makes man distinctive.

Meanwhile, man stubbornly continues to be what he is: "psyche in soma," an embodied spiritual being.

Screwtape does have a sense of humor after all. But I don't have to appreciate his "little jokes."

Fine article, Lindykim. Thanks ever so much for posting it.

151 posted on 01/27/2006 4:36:15 PM PST by betty boop (Dominus illuminatio mea.)
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To: betty boop
Personally, I don't resist the epistemic authority of science operating in its proper field. That is not the same thing as saying that all of reality reduces to that authority. Science treats of "physical" things. Period. The other branch of the epistemic divide treats of spiritual things -- things of vital importance to man like language, history, the arts, philosophy, theology, and so forth. Science has zero purchase there. Yet scientistic ideologues claim that, since science can't deal with such things owing to its own methodological limitations, such things must not exist.

This is a tremendous leap of faith (or counter-faith) on their part -- a leap that extinguishes all that is of utmost value to human kind, and what makes man distinctive.

Meanwhile, man stubbornly continues to be what he is: "psyche in soma," an embodied spiritual being.

Very well said. Thank you so much for your excellent post!
170 posted on 01/27/2006 9:02:05 PM PST by Alamo-Girl
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