Posted on 11/13/2005 10:43:18 AM PST by A. Pole
Both the European Commission that runs the European Union and leaders of several party groups in the European legislature have warned the new Polish government of President Lech Kaczynski that anti-homosexual initiatives and restoration of the death penalty could cost Poland its voting rights in the E.U., Tuesday's European papers report. But there's not a word of this in the U.S. press, even though the European dailies go to bed five to six hours earlier than their American counterparts.
Under the headline, "Polish Leader's Anti-Gay Stance Threatens E.U. Voting Rights," The Guardian's European editor, Nicholas Watt, reports today that, "In a shot across the bows of arch-conservative Lech Kaczynski, the commission declared that all member states must abide by EU rules which protect minorities and block the death penalty..... 'We are going to follow the situation very attentively,' the principal commission spokesman, Jonathan Todd, said yesterday." The Guardian goes on to write that "Friso Roscam Abbing, the European Commission's justice spokesman, warned the new president he must abide by article 6 of the Treaty of Nice, which says that all member states must protect minority rights and not impose the death penalty. A failure to comply could trigger article 7, which allows the EU to deprive a member state of voting rights. This allows voting rights to be withdrawn if a member state is in "serious breach" of its obligations on human rights."
And in The Independent today, a report from Brussels says that "Poland was given a blunt warning over its human rights obligations yesterday - after the election of a president who has sought to curb gay rights." The British paper quotes Martin Schultz, leader of the socialist group in the European Parliament and a member of Germany's SPD (Social Democrats), as saying that Kaczynski is "on probation", adding: "I hope the president will be a different kind of person to the [one we saw as] candidate."
Unfortunately, neither The Guardian nor The Independent (let alone the big American dailies) give any indication as to the substance of what the fuss is all about -- for that, you'd have to have been reading DIRELAND, whose East European expert, David Ost, has detailed the aggressive homophobia of not only newly-elected President Kaczynski, but of the Prime Minister-designate picked by the conservative parliamentary coalition Kaczynski leads, Kazimierz Marcinkiewicz, who says it is the responsibility of government to prevent gays from "infecting" others with homosexuality. For a more detailed look at the homophobia of Poland's new rulers (and their anti-Semitic alliances), click here.
What point are voting rights, if they are going to tell you how you can vote in advance?
GaEU bump
These kinda threats, to me, show the EU to be nothing more than a large scale dictatorship through blackmail. This my, FRiends sure smells Orwellian to me.
It hard to imagine that the perverts have almost literally taken over the world in 25 short years. And they are just 3% of the population!
Where is John Sobieski when we need him?
The EU is doomed to failure; there's no way its member states are going to put up with being told what to do/think by a punch of pantywaists in Brussels.
In Polish you would call it "demokracja inaczej" - "alternative democracy".
When the perverts were pleading for "tolerance", their argument was not to allow precisely what they are exercizing over the vast majority today: mindless control and despotism.
I used to be neutral. No more. But I must emphasize, hostility and disdain is not fear. This may become obvious, eventually, when the stuff hits the fan.
Homos threatening entire countries?
Who'da thought?
"which protect minorities and block the death penalty"
Gays are not a minority, they have made a choice.
And then there's FRANCE--with CHIRAC who had dreamed of HEADING UP the EU all by HIMSELF!!
Too bad there isn't a rumor going aorund that he TOO is against Gay-Marraige!!--he'd have the OTHER HALF of his country of Fire!!! hahahahaha
" Come ON NOW!! All you Gay-Rights people!! GET OUT of EUROPE!! WE don't want YOU here!!--and my name is Jac Chirac!! and I approved this message!!"
DAB
If you cannot stand up for your values, then what good is membership in the EU?
Christophobia seems to be OK in Europe.
Anti-semitism in today's jargon means "not liking lib Jews."
Conservative, orthodox, and otherwise god-fearing, non atheist Jews are hated by the lib Jews who seem not to care too much about Israel's survival.
I personally very much like Mike Savage, David Horowitz, Michael Medved, Prager, Hewitt, Sekulow and especially - Mark Levin - all conservative or Christian Jews who are hated by libs of all faiths, or non-faiths as the case may be.
Why do I sense that either the Bubonic Plague or the Bird Flu is going to rage through Europe soon?
Only 3%. How'd they do it?
If the Eu ever gets its act together; it will not be a free country. It will be a dictatorship of the elite.
Actually poland should get out of the EU. They overthrew Communism, Why do they want to again become a part of something so similar to it.
> they have made a choice
Do you really believe one can choose wether to be homo or hetero? I'm hetero and it's absolutely clear to me that I don't have that choice and never had it. If you truely believe what you wrote there, my advice to you would be to sit down in a calm moment, be honest to yourself and think the unthinkable.
To the EU, I say one of the few Polish phrases I know, "Idz do diabla"
Someone close to me was recently in Poland and was very, very upbeat and positive about what is going on there. To see that anti traditional extremists are trying to get Poland punished (as if EU banishment is even punishment at all! LOL) is icing on the cake and confirms, 100% (1000%?) the present direction of the new government there. Yaaaahooo! Yeeeehaw!
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