Posted on 11/03/2005 6:14:35 AM PST by areafiftyone
Terrific roundup! Thanks for putting it all together.
That is the ONLY way we can the WAR on Terrorism..we are fighting terrorists...
The Rights enumerated in the Bill of Rights assume that people are civilized to a certain degree..unless you can assure me that OBL, Zarqwai, and their followers will demonstrate some degree of civility, they deserve NOTHING but the muzzle of a weapon..
you advocate negotiation with terrorists..appeasment...and surrender..
But lets be civilized about this...I truly want to help the terrorists..
THEY WANT TO DIE
I WANT TO HELP
Those people, with the exception of certain gangs, do not have a worldwide religion, nor do they have followers willing to die in their cause. That is criminal behavior...not TERRORISM..there is a definite distinction between someone who robs a bank and shoots a bank guard, and someone who will strap on a backpack and kill inocents..or fly a plane into a building..or set a bomb on a subway...or behead non-combatants...or use chemical, biological, or nuclear devices against civilians..
This is great, thanks. Now if we could only get this info into the NYTimes! :-)
Dear Fellow Conservative,
This is an email about one of the most powerful weapons of our time... "disinformation."
It's a weapon that is used on all of us over and over every day of our lives. How do I know this?
The deliberately suppressed list above is one reason. Here's another: Have you heard that Osama bin Laden is on kidney dialysis? I'll bet you have. Much of the Western media report bin Laden's presumed affliction as a matter of fact -- and most Americans believe it. But...
...it's just not true.
Now, you may well be thinking: "Why would the news media want to make me believe that Osama bin Laden is a very sick and perhaps dying man?" Well, here's why...
The news media are -- overwhelmingly -- against the Iraq War. The image of an aged, 6-foot, 8-inch Arab limping from cave to cave, trailing a camel loaded down with dialysis equipment -- eluding George W. Bush and the most powerful military in the world -- appeals to them enormously.
And so the myth lives on -- for SEVEN YEARS now! -- long past the normal life expectancy of patients hooked up to dialysis in the best hospitals, let alone the freezing, rugged mountains of the Afghan-Pakistani border.
There is a name for this phenomenon -- disinformation.
The term refers to the deliberate dissemination of FALSE information (and the intentional omission of TRUE information) for the purpose of confusing rivals or influencing public opinion.
Indeed, the false conclusion that "Bush lied, there were no WMDs in Iraq," is the main supporting claim of the anti-war Left. Without it, the movement collapses.
My name is Tom Winter, Editor in Chief of HUMAN EVENTS. It grieves me to admit that millions upon millions of Americans unknowingly accept blatant falsehoods as facts due to the power and prevalence of disinformation.
Take a look at some of the most pernicious lies that you have no doubt read or heard:
There is no connection between Iraq and al Qaeda
The U.S. funded the Taliban in the 1980s
Suitcase nukes are in place across America
Osama bin Laden was trained by the CIA
Halliburton made a fortune in Iraq
There were no Jews in the Word Trade Center on 9/11
What do each of these widely publicized, widely believed "facts" have in common? Here's what:
They are undeniably false... as you will discover in Disinformation, the new blockbuster book by veteran reporter Richard Miniter, and it will be my pleasure to send it to you FREE in hard cover, just for trying HUMAN EVENTS.
Rich Miniter's career sounds like something out of a spy thriller -- except it's real. In addition to writing for newspapers in the U.S., Western Europe, Africa and Southeast Asia, he has traveled with rebels into war zones in Uganda, Sudan and Burma and along smugglers' routes in Laos, Thailand and Cambodia.
Few reporters are more familiar with the methodology of disinformation -- the clever misdirection, false rumors, press manipulation, and endless repetition of falsehoods until they morph into "truth." Disinformation is a dark art, and Richard Miniter understands its shadings and subtleties.
The truth means nothing to the leftist, commie bastards. They make up the "truth" as they go along, and so does the MSM. But, the People are seeing through it, and that pi$$es them off.
you don't hand over the rights people died preserving to the people responsible for their deaths...convicted felons lose their rights...end of story..and end of this discussion...
Germany and Japan SURRENDERED...and re-joined the world commuinty..and haven't tried to kill our citizens on a continuous basis..
PING to the crew
I'm inclined to agree with Iraqikurd on this one, Bob.
I agree that all of our Constitutional rights should not be extended to suspected terrorists, but basic human rights should. I have always felt that torture was a barbaric and subhuman thing to consider, but that doesn't mean that modern interrogation techniques, including moderate brainwashing or de-conditioning, and chemical pursuaders should be forbidden.
I took pride in the fact that in the first Gulf War, Iraqi troops surrendered in droves to our men (and Machines!) It seemed to prove to me that civilised treatment of prisoners of war was the best way to win battles. Convincing your opponents to fight to the last man is just plain stupid, and costly in our lives as well as theirs.
We need to convince our friends and enemies that we have a better lifestyle, with freedom and justice for all, and not just a better war machine.
Thanks, areafiftyone!
Bookmarking!
Its specious and inconsistant but its good enough for govt work.
No individual in the custody or under the physical control of the United States Government, regardless of nationality or physical location, shall be subject to cruel, inhuman, or degrading treatment or punishment."
No cruel or inhuman treatment... that sounds reasonable... or does it?
But the phrase degrading treatment which could have been invented by Amnesty International -- is so vague and full of holes you could drive a Hummer through it.
Solitary confinement, harsh language, ridicule, mild threats, good-cop-bad-cop -- the Senate wants to outlaw all of these standard questioning techniques and restrict interrogators to the etiquette of a ladies lawn party.
These terrorists are butchering women and children all over the globe -- as well as launching sneak attacks on our troops and were supposed to walk on egg shells when we try to find out which Americans they intend to kill next?
Exactly what are our troops suppose to do when questioning these terrorist thugs in an attempt to save American lives?
"Pretty please Mr. terrorist... I beg you...could you please tell us the details of your NEXT attack on innocent Americans?"
That's about the size of it folks. After all, we will now have to be extra careful not to do ANYTHING THAT WOULD DEGRADE OR INSULT THESE KILLERS!
The U.S. Senate hasnt gotten the message: Were at war with fanatics who hate Americans.
These jihadists are willing to die for their faith, and we arent even willing to be ill-mannered to protect our freedom.
Our friends don't need convincing and our enemies think our lifestyle is a tool of satan..it's why they are our enemies..
they tried to DESTROY that lifestyle on 9/11
anyone who believes TERRORISTS...islamo-extremists...alQueda... is worthy of the same treatment as criminals or prisoners of war is not thinking clearly..or does not understand the evil we are dealing with..
Hell, let 'em vote too..and give 'em medial care, and social security.
Thanks for the ping!
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