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Iraq - Democrats Lied About WMDs
USS Neverdock ^
 | 11/3/05
 | Marc
Posted on 11/03/2005 6:14:35 AM PST by areafiftyone
 
Iraq - Democrats Lied About WMDs
 
  
  
Yesterday, former President Jimmy Carter 
accused the Bush Administration of manipulating pre war intelligence about Iraq's WMDs. 
But here's what he said back in Feb 03.
  
  
"He obviously has the capability and desire to build prohibited weapons and probably has some hidden in his country.
  Here is a handy list of what the Democrats were saying about Iraq and WMDs before the election campaign.
  
See here for more debunking of the Bush lied myth.(Info from the Link posted below)-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
  
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"Bush lied" campaign collapses
    The Democrat's and anti-war movement's "Bush lied" campaign has collapsed. 
    
First, weapons of mass destruction (WMD) have been found 
here, here, 
here and 
here.
    Second, links between Saddam and Al Qaeda proven 
here, 
here, 
here, 
here and 
here.
    Third, it seems Saddam was trying to buy Uranium from Nigeria after all. 
    
Inquiry will back intelligence that Iraq sought uranium
    That is in addition to 
US reveals Iraq nuclear operation
    The US has revealed that it removed more than 1.7 metric tons of radioactive material from Iraq in a secret operation last month.
    Fourth, there was 
no pressure put on US intelligence over Iraq.
    The unanimous report by the panel will say there is no evidence that intelligence officials were subjected to pressure to reach particular conclusions about Iraq.
    Fifth, the Iraq war was about oil alright as we can plainly see from the UN oil-for-food scandal. 
    
The evidence proving Bush was right is also coming from some unlikely sources. 
    
Russia Warned U.S. About Iraq, Putin Says
    Russian President Vladimir Putin said yesterday that his intelligence service had warned the Bush administration before the U.S. invasion of Iraq that Saddam Hussein's government was planning attacks against U.S. targets both inside and outside the country. 
    Clinton defends successor's push for war
    Clinton, who was interviewed Thursday, said he did not believe that Bush went to war in Iraq over oil or for imperialist reasons but out of a genuine belief that large quantities of weapons of mass destruction remained unaccounted for. 
     
Noting that Bush had to be "reeling" in the wake of the attacks of September 11, 2001, Clinton said Bush's first priority was to keep al Qaeda and other terrorist networks from obtaining "chemical and biological weapons or small amounts of fissile material."
     
"That's why I supported the Iraq thing. There was a lot of stuff unaccounted for," Clinton said in reference to Iraq and the fact that U.N. weapons inspectors left the country in 1998.
    Front Page goes further. 
    
An article titled "The Big Lie Campaign", contains this: 
    
In either case  and in both cases  what we are confronting in this spectacle is an unprecedented event in American political life. In the midst of a good war and a noble enterprise, a major American party [the Democrats] is engaged in an effort to stab its own country in the back for short term political gain, and is willing to do to so by the most underhanded and unscrupulous means.
    Terrorists the world over must be laughing at how we are tearing ourselves apart while they make plans to speed up the process. 
    
    
UPDATE: More on the Uranium - Niger - Saddam story and it was Joe Wilson who lied not Bush. 
Happy Anniversary to Joseph C. Wilson IV
    And the 
The Senate Intelligence Committee Report by 
Dan Darling.
    Also, this demolishes 2 of Richard Clarke's key claims with respect to Iraq: that there was no Iraqi involvement in terrorism post-1993, and that there is no evidence whatsoever of Iraqi support for al-Qaeda. Both of these claims, to put it quite simply, can now be shown to be factually untrue.
    Here is a handy list of what the Democrats were saying about Iraq and WMDs before the election campaign. 
    
UPDATE 2: The UK Lord Butler Report backs Blair and Bush on Iraq's attempts to buy Uranium from Niger.
    
499. We conclude that, on the basis of the intelligence assessments at the time, covering both Niger and the Democratic Republic of Congo, the statements on Iraqi attempts to buy uranium from Africa in the Governments dossier, and by the Prime Minister in the House of Commons, were well-founded.
     
By extension, we conclude also that the statement in President Bushs State of the Union Address of 28 January 2003 that: The British Government has learned that Saddam Hussein recently sought significant quantities of uranium from Africa, was well-founded.
    UPDATE
    More Democrats who claim Iraq had WMDs
    More Chemical weapons found?
    Joseph Wilson lied
    
    
    
  
TOPICS: Politics
KEYWORDS: demlies; iraq; wmd
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To: areafiftyone; MNJohnnie; RasterMaster; jan in Colorado
    Thanks for putting all this in one place area51. 
 Jan - this may shed some additional light on our conversation last night. Check out all the links.
 
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posted on 
11/03/2005 6:36:43 AM PST
by 
Just A Nobody
(I - LOVE - my attitude problem!  WBB  lives on.)
 
To: areafiftyone
To: trooprally; iraqikurd; concretebob
    Excellent links proving President Bush was right!!! 
 Which is probably why there are not 100 posts 30 minutes after this thread was put up.
 
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posted on 
11/03/2005 6:45:27 AM PST
by 
Just A Nobody
(I - LOVE - my attitude problem!  WBB  lives on.)
 
To: Justanobody
    I think no matter what Bush said, says, or will say the Dem's will controvert it. 
We as a group know what the President said, was true. The evidence is all over the internet. 
When they played back all the statements from the Dems on Fox news yesterday saying Sadam was a threat. Now they say I did not say that. BUSH LIED. Billary is the worst of them all. 
I beleive in my President !! 
[Mrs T]
 
5
posted on 
11/03/2005 7:09:31 AM PST
by 
trooprally
(Never Give Up - Never Give In - Remember Our Troops)
 
To: trooprally
    We as a group know what the President said, was true. Where is this group??? They/we should be shouting this information every minute of everyday. 
 I've seen far too many here side with the commies, saying President Bush lied. This thread has been up an hour and there are only 5 posts. Disgusting.
 
6
posted on 
11/03/2005 7:17:12 AM PST
by 
Just A Nobody
(I - LOVE - my attitude problem!  WBB  lives on.)
 
To: Justanobody
    The Group I am speaking of is the Free Republic. 
And yes I noticed the lack of response. I am sorry about that but, I shout it all the time. Too many Dem's in Maryland don't like to hear me. 
 
[Mrs T]
 
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posted on 
11/03/2005 7:44:02 AM PST
by 
trooprally
(Never Give Up - Never Give In - Remember Our Troops)
 
To: areafiftyone
    Nice work! 
 
Now if only the Republicans would make a very public noise about it!
 
8
posted on 
11/03/2005 7:45:32 AM PST
by 
airborne
(Al-Queda can recruit on college campuses but the US military can't!)
 
To: Justanobody
    Rush made a very long speech on this just yesterday.
 
9
posted on 
11/03/2005 7:47:02 AM PST
by 
airborne
(Al-Queda can recruit on college campuses but the US military can't!)
 
To: Justanobody
    I agree with you. And as a reminder... 
 WASHINGTON (CNN) -- In a major victory for the White House, the Senate early Friday voted 77-23 to authorize President Bush to attack Iraq if Saddam Hussein refuses to give up weapons of mass destruction as required by U.N. resolutions. Hours earlier, the House approved an identical resolution, 296-133. The president praised the congressional action, declaring "America speaks with one voice." "The Congress has spoken clearly to the international community and the United Nations Security Council," Bush said in a statement. "Saddam Hussein and his outlaw regime pose a grave threat to the region, the world and the United States. Inaction is not an option, disarmament is a must." 
 http://archives.cnn.com/2002/ALLPOLITICS/10/11/iraq.us/ 
We elected our leaders to represent us.
 They sent our troops to war. In reality, every one of us sent them there. 
 Saddam had WMD, we know that as a fact. The only question is "Where did they go." The burden of proof was on him to prove he no longer had them. WHen he didn't comply, we went in (remember, all Reagan declared was a "cease fire.") 
 We simply finished a job that nobody else had the guts to do. And now that the "oil for food" info is out- we know why. Ask any soldier how many NEW Russian and French weapons we found over there...
 
To: areafiftyone
    Regardless of how compelling the evidence, no one will ever be able to get the libs off their "Bush lied, boys died" mantra. A pathetic lot, one and all. 
 
 As conservatives, we have a sworn duty to use all means, short of homicide, to keep these vermin from destroying our country.
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posted on 
11/03/2005 7:55:19 AM PST
by 
stm
 
To: stm
    Richard Miniter has a new book out about the WMDs actually found and I agree that FrontPage has done a great job exposing these Commie-crats for who they are and what they said. Also, David Horowitz maintains DiscoverTheNetworks which exposes a lot of these issues very well.
 
To: unionblue83
    When I was in Baghdad, I spoke frequently with Dr. Khidhir Hamza, who worked on Hussein's nuclear weapons program before escaping with his family. He was actually educated in the US at FSU. He insists they were moved across the syrian border prior to the war and buried in the desert. Who should know better than he? 
 
 He wrote an excellent book entitled Saddam's Bombmaker
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posted on 
11/03/2005 8:23:45 AM PST
by 
stm
 
To: stm
    Thank you for serving our country. I did happen to see a recent reference to this book but cannot remember where. A "friend" of mine actually was with the contingent that conducted some interviews and reviewed intelligence gleaned from captured terrorists. There have been a few (not enough) people in the conservative press that have mentioned this "Ghost Caravan" led by the Russians to Syria, which I have no doubt that they (the Ruskies) did. Who, other than the Chinese and the French, had as much of a vested interest in Saddam's regime than one of their major weapons suppliers?
 
To: stm
    The Goverment has stated that they were moved just before we went to Iraq into Syria and Iran. Of coarse you don't hear that anymore. Then Iran saying this week they have nuclear capability. Do the Dem's think this is all fiction and fabrication? 
Has Dr. Khidhr Hamza told the US this?
 
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posted on 
11/03/2005 8:34:09 AM PST
by 
trooprally
(Never Give Up - Never Give In - Remember Our Troops)
 
To: areafiftyone; ALlRightAllTheTime; armymarinemom; tgslTakoma; Justanobody; 3D-JOY; ...
    I received this in my email today...
The GOP-controlled Senate added an amendment to the $440-billion military spending bill that would extend to spies, terrorists, and Islamic jihadists the same rights U.S. citizens enjoy under the Constitution.
In other words, our military interrogators can no longer question suspected suicide bombers and murderers of women and children without the ACLU looking over their shoulder -- ready to haul some poor enlisted man into court just because he yelled at a terrorist or hurt a terrorists feelings.
If the Senate had done such a despicable thing during World War II, the American people would have stormed the Capitol, tarred and feathered all who voted for such treachery, and ridden them out of town on a rail.
This evil, suicidal bill  if implemented  would expose Americans to the greatest danger in the history of our nation: The planting of explosives on our subways. Suicide bombers killing American women and children. Airline hijackings. Assassinations.
Do you realize that not a single terrorist attack has occurred on American soil since 9/11  despite the dark, dire predictions of the political know-it-alls.
You know why? Because our worldwide intelligence operation has discovered and exposed plot after plot to kill Americans, both abroad and at home.
You may be alive today because some interrogator wasnt too fastidious about how he got his information from some proud, smirking jihadist.
Can anyone confirm this?
If this is true, we are in worse shape than I imagined, and I'm going to start flying my flag upside down..
the symbol for dire distress..yes it is a Federal Code..
 
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posted on 
11/03/2005 3:18:31 PM PST
by 
concretebob
(We should give anarchists what they want. Then we can kill them and not worry about jailtime.)
 
To: stm
    Short of homicideI think I'll study on that exception for awhile..do you mean homicide, or murder?
Is a perceived threat of eminent force or bodily harm an exception to the exception?
 
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posted on 
11/03/2005 3:24:08 PM PST
by 
concretebob
(We should give anarchists what they want. Then we can kill them and not worry about jailtime.)
 
To: concretebob
    I read through your post and am for ONCE...speechless! 
 
I have to research this. Whatever are we thinking? 
 
Is this a way to say we are at war?...NOT!! 
 
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posted on 
11/03/2005 3:34:22 PM PST
by 
3D-JOY
 
Comment #19 Removed by Moderator
To: iraqikurd
    The rights granted under our Constitution, and the Bill of Rights apply to persons born here, or who have spent the required time to become naturalized.
Those of us who are American by birth are the lucky ones, we are not required to do another damn thing to maintain that position, nor are we required to take periodic examinations to ensure we still know what it means to be an American.
Not that wouldn't be a bad idea.
Naturalized citizens must wait 5 years, take a test, and swear alligence, disavowing all ties to their former nation.
To have these rights just handed out, like Halloween candy, to a group of fanatics whose only puprpose for living is to kill all who do not believe as they do, well, we may as well tell them to come on in, and start sharpening the swords for them...
This will not stand..it is un-constitutional..un-American..and really pisses me off.
 
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posted on 
11/03/2005 4:03:55 PM PST
by 
concretebob
(We should give anarchists what they want. Then we can kill them and not worry about jailtime.)
 
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