Posted on 09/28/2005 7:15:49 AM PDT by stan_sipple
I've long been struck by attempts to paint gun rights activists as paranoid. "[N]o one is seriously proposing to ban or confiscate all guns. You hear that only from the gun lobby itself, which whistles up this bogeyman whenever some reasonable regulation is proposed." Just modest, reasonable regulations, folks, that's all that it's about; and you must be an extremist or irrational if you're worried about more.
In response, I put up a Web page documenting all the groups and commentators that have urged total or near-total handgun bans (and in some instances bans on all guns); and, of course, those jurisdictions that have in fact implemented such bans. It hardly seems paranoid to worry about proposals that have been made by Senators, Representatives, mayors, editorial boards of the L.A. Times and the Washington Post, leading opinion journalists, and leaders of prominent gun control groups — and that have been in fact enacted in some places (including our nation's capital).
(Excerpt) Read more at volokh.com ...
Thanks for the ping.
BTTT
Springs have easily determined loadings. Here's hoping they don't try to overload their capabilities or our tolerance because all hell could break loose.
Administer as needed until the problem goes away.
"the anti-2nd Amendment forces never gave up their efforts, merely renamed themselves with innocuous labels"
In Arizona there is Arizonans for Gun Safety, a bunch of hoplophobic gun-hating jerks who wouldn't know which end of the firearm the bullet leaves. Governor Butch, in order to shore up her weak right flank, signed a law permitting firearms safety training in the public schools. All the gun-haters, INCLUDING ARIZONANS FOR GUN SAFETY, pitched a huge hissy fit about that.
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Governor Butch? LOL LOL! I had no idea, especially how she melted under the attentions of greasy Vicente' Fox so much that the other governors were muttering "Get a room" under their breath. He must have that Julio Ingesias vocal seduction super-power or something. There was a time where firearms proficiency was taught and valued in the school curriculem, tied to partnerships with the NRA and the the Boys and Girls Scouts. They proudly competed amongst each other without turning out any psychos wanting to kill everybody. Kids were able to walk through towns without SWAT teams responding to the rifles they carried to and from home. I recall attending a church service in 1960s Illinois where the back wall was lined with rifles for the after-service turkey shoot. How times have changed for the worst.
Seriously though, Napolitano's in a load of trouble for her cowtowing to the illegal alien lobby among the out-of-city Arizona citizens sick of the horde crossing their properties seemingly answerable to no one. While I'm not a member of your state I've been watching the battle since Jackelope Breeder's eloquent descriptions from Texas used to keep us all up on the invasion there. Janet's unwise move to declare a national emergency right before a real(er) national emergency happened did not help anyone's cause.
I hope you guys have a viable challenger while the time is ripe. It would really help if he or she isn't beholding to the powerful forces making so much money by paying illegal aliens the least they can get away with.
Who am am I fooling - you'll have to run a Republican who'll have to be approved by the very people I just castigated. This is why I'm proposing shutting the scum out of the process altogether, pushing the third-party concept and persisting until the "wall" is reached. For our nation's sake and future right MUST prevail over greed, convenience and status quo.
We (who are actually conservatives) want America to retain it's traditional role of world leadership while retaining an ethical framework. It was because of that framework that Winston Churchill was able to declare (in 1941) that the WWII was as good as won because we Americans have an underlying intolerance of wrong. He banked on that and turned out to be right. Now it's on the benefactors of that hard-won victory and the cornucopia of advancements resulting from it to step up and mind our country's interests at a time when veiled traitors push us to multinational one-world government. I think we average citizens know better and can put a stop to their crap because they can't advance any of these agendas without OUR MONEY. Declare everything possible on your taxes and defer every pay-in as long as possible. If our government can get away with similar shenanigans for the sake of duplicity we should have the very same right. When our government gets serious about how they use our money I will get serious about my supposed responsibility to it. Until then I'm officially shorting them every way I can because of wealth distribution to the undeserved, funding to unnecessary projects, pursuit of goals long realized and an astronomically large load of other horse crap we shouldn't be financing.
They're wasting Billions of OUR dollars. Our official General Accounting Office points this out every year but no one seems to pay attention to that worthy entity...pork barrel for the local vicinity trumps the esoteric total deficit every time. It's time for a new class of politicians to step up using the facts and historical precedence as their shield and strength. They must acknowledge the bad news for what it is while stressing how temporary shortages of some things will be necessary while they combat the globalists and regain our earned place on this planet. While that may sound nutty I assure you all that the rest of this planet's countries have been conferring about how to divvy up America for quite a long time. We need aggressive representatives able to resist corruption and seemingly overwhelming influence. We need real patriots to preserve the dream of our founding fathers. Most of all, we need to be willing to support the few willing to stand up, regardless of party ties, for the sake of our nation's preservation. America must go on to represent the apex of our civilization.
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There was a time where firearms proficiency was taught and valued in the school curriculem, tied to partnerships with the NRA and the the Boys and Girls Scouts. They proudly competed amongst each other without turning out any psychos wanting to kill everybody. Kids were able to walk through towns without SWAT teams responding to the rifles they carried to and from home. I recall attending a church service in 1960s Illinois where the back wall was lined with rifles for the after-service turkey shoot. How times have changed for the worst.
" I hope you guys have a viable challenger while the time is ripe. It would really help if he or she isn't beholding to the powerful forces making so much money by paying illegal aliens the least they can get away with.Who am am I fooling - you'll have to run a Republican who'll have to be approved by the very people I just castigated."
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Republican party leaders rail against single issue voters. If I list about five issues a candidate's wrong on, I'm still a single issue voter for not supporting the candidate. The confusion comes from the fact that the people making these arguments are "no issue voters," they'll back any Republican no matter how far left.
The fact that the Republican Party is a coalition of social conservative, economic conservatives, gun rights supporters, property rights activists, and immigration reformers. If you fail to have a candidate who satisfies the entire coalition, who moves their agenda forward in some tangible way, you risk losing the strength of the coalition. Republicans are strongest when we are united behind a candidate who shares our dreams and values. Whoever leads the Republican party must unite all Conservatives. So, in choosing a candidate we should be single issue voters for all of our constituencies.
Rudy Giuliani, in addition to his character problems is also a strong gay rights advocate and pro-abortion, even to the point of opposing the partial birth abortion ban.
John McCain supports stem cell research, spearheaded the effort to pass the abominable campaign finance reform act, and also is soft on immigration.
Senate Majority Leader Bill Frist (R-TN) has been one of those most responsible for the run-away growth of the federal government in addition to embracing stem cell research.
Governor George Pataki (R-NY) is a moderate-to-liberal like Giuliani without the charisma or the personal appeal, who'd lose an election for a 4th term in New York.
Governor Tim Pawlenty (R-Mn.) has been widely floated as a candidate for President by many but has recently violated his no new-tax pledge in Minnesota.
Governor Mike Huckabee (R-Ar.) who has done great things in the state of Arkansas on social issues, but has been increased spending at an average clip of 7% a year. In addition, he doesn't take the issue of illegal immigration seriously, as he stated recently that it isn't a 'real problem.'
BTTT
I'm just saying we've got less than nothing to choose from that would stand a virgin's chance at portcall in San Diego of winning either in 2006 or (especially) in 2008.
Bush has done us . . really, really good.
I have no idea what you mean saying the current president has accomplished good. While I know this is a Republican website I never put that party's interests above country. I worry more about our people overseas, hoping that their service and sacrifices are worth the effort to win those countries some semblance of citizen rule over theocratic/tribalistic tyranny. I think both parties are totally over their heads trying to deal with this illogical fanatiscism.
Two years ago I raised hell over our government's decision to leave the Afghani poppy fields intact, citing that the money from those would eventually fund operations to kill our boys. I also said then that I hoped I was wrong.
Guess what?
While the mods are debating whether to release my initial response (about our government approving opium farming for the sake of Afghanistans's economy; my response being scathing as it cost a lot of soldiers' lives) I can not see George stepping up and beyond the support structure he's used to and actually understanding reality. I was a tad ticked off seeing him telling displaced women to run down the road to the Red Cross, all hugging aside. From a leadership point of view he should either done that out of camera or actually run ops out of D.C., which would have sent a positive message that he trusted the people on the ground.
"I have no idea what you mean saying the current president has accomplished good."
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Clarification . .
Bush hasdoneRAPED us . . really, really good.
Providing the link, will allow those interested to read, possibly without upsetting those who cannot handle criticism of the President, too greatly:
Days Of Shame--The Real Issue In New Orleans.
Needless to say, I did not appreciate the President's remarks on the 15th of this month; nor did I find it an acceptable concept, that out of State troopers were permitted to disarm Louisiana home owners.
"There was a time where firearms proficiency was taught and valued"
I really hated high school, and would have probably dropped out except for one thing: Junior ROTC. It was required in both the 10th and 11th grades. In our ROTC classes we got to work with M1 Garands, M1 carbines, and Browning Automatic Rifles. They all had the firing pins removed, but that was all right. I got very proficient at disassembly and assembly of all three weapons.
We also had an ROTC shooting team. I tried out for it, but you had to have a certain grade point average to make the team, and I didn't.
Now, many years later, after a successful army career and another successful post-army career, I have a large gun safe chock full of firearms. Naturally my collection includes an M1 Garand and several M1 carbines.
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