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Bogoslovskaya: Timoshenko must be dismissed
Forum Ukraine ^ | 18 August

Posted on 08/18/2005 12:16:45 PM PDT by jb6

Ex-Chief of State Committee of Entrepreneurship reckons that Ukraine needs to get rid of nonprofessionals and populists of the power. Inna Bogoslovskaya states it during online conference which is going on right now on ForUm.

In response to the question "how can Ukraine overcome a crisis" she named the steps which would benefit the situation in the country: "the first one is to make a revision of new appointees and to get rid of nonprofessionals and populists and then to appoint real professionals to their posts; the second one is to make the power consistence more homogeneous by dismissal of Socialists, neo-Bolsheviks and wild revolutionists; the last one is to retire Timoshenko as PM of Ukraine who betrayed the fundamentals of bourgeois-democratic Orange Revolution and engrained neo-Bolshevism in Ukraine.”

Bogoslovskaya has put bad mark to the Cabinet’s work.


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KEYWORDS: bolshavism; propaganda; socialism; timoshenko; tymoshenko; ukraine
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To: Dark Skies
Cat Fight!!!

This dispute can only be settled one way.... (involves plastic swimming pool and baby oil....)

21 posted on 08/18/2005 2:50:30 PM PDT by r9etb
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To: jb6
World Socialist Web Site ROTFL, I know that for you such kind of “source” is enough to judge honest people. But why do you not admit that you are communist?
22 posted on 08/18/2005 2:53:46 PM PDT by Lukasz
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To: jb6; GarySpFc
But the Russian "party" on FR does exactly the same - when someone is criticizing Putin and his crew.

I do it pretty often, and I've been called a Russian hater, Russophobe.
. Not "Putin hater", or "Putinophobe", which would be absolutely true.

So how is that, finally?
23 posted on 08/18/2005 2:57:40 PM PDT by lizol
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To: lizol; Grzegorz 246; twinself; REactor; Tailgunner Joe; spanalot; Wiz
Guys you should see this stuff! "Jb6" is claiming that I’m a liar because I disagree with World Socialist Web Site. LOL
24 posted on 08/18/2005 2:58:52 PM PDT by Lukasz
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To: GarySpFc; Lukasz; jb6; sergey1973; lizol; MeekOneGOP

Thank you"GarysPfc"



"I seriously don't want anyone to touch Ukraine. What it means is let them have their life please. I think they deserve it. How would you feel if I tell you are wearing wrong pants: et for it would be funny :}}}}}}}: but see what I mean: let them live their own life. Problem is so many people jump in into a boat and think they are captains. Relax all of you; let God be a judge of love can you just feel something more then watching a screen on TV? What is means is a metaphor; look Belarus is going through same thing as Ukraine went before: it is happening do I want us get involved in this; no way let them decide!: These are independent countries. Lukaszenko is a nut case and I seriously mean it."



25 posted on 08/18/2005 3:04:06 PM PDT by anonymoussierra (Nie b¹dŸ pochopny w duchu do gniewu, bo gniew przebywa w piersi g³upców)
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To: sergey1973
Let Ukrainians run their own affairs--rightly or wrongly -:))))

Yushchenko won the elections. Is he leading his country to socialism, as some individuals on this forum claim? Certainly not. But even if that was true: he is the leader chosen by his nation.

26 posted on 08/18/2005 3:09:18 PM PDT by REactor
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To: anonymoussierra
What is a problem here I ask all of you? Why there always has to be question of Ukraine?

There is no question of Ukraine. It's only a few guys who can't come to grips with the reality of the Ukrainian independence from Moscow.

27 posted on 08/18/2005 3:13:49 PM PDT by REactor
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To: Lukasz
Excuse me? If you're referring to the Forum Ukraine, as I'm sure you are, you're lieing through your teeth again. Look under analysis, there is a series of pro-Yushchenko articles and they post from both sides. So why don't you go post some, since he's your boy....oh that's right, you are only good at spreading hatred, your specialty.

Lukasz Russian Hatred Obsession/Agenda

The threads that Lukasz has been on, sampled from 12 Aug -17 Aug

Ukraine wants to deepen economic relations with Russia

http://www.themoscowtimes.com/stories/2005/08/16/041.html

Ukraine, Georgia fuming over planned Russian sex film

WHAT IS BEHIND THE GROWING TENSION IN RUSSIAN-POLISH RELATIONS?

Poland Appeals to Russia to Stop Attacks [against Polish diplomats and a journalist]

EU challenges Putin (Fourth Reich on move alert!)

Russia considers sanctions against Moldova

That's 7 out 13 threads dealing directly with Russia. He also goes out of his way to spread hatred on the following other threads that originally had nothing to do with Russia till Luki here made it so. So that's another 5 out of 13 threads total. So in other words, the man who accuses others of "obsession and one agenda posting" is driven by either personal or paid hatred of Russians on 12 out of 13 threads.

Far-Rightists Target 'Judeo-Nazis' in the Ukraine

Germany may become Ukraine’s promoter in EU

The first lesson in schools will be devoted to European Union (brainwashing kids for the EU)

The pride of 'people without a country'

Whome of the politicians do we trust most of all? (Western/Central Ukraine)

28 posted on 08/18/2005 3:14:23 PM PDT by jb6 (The Atheist/Pagan mind, a quandary wrapped in egoism and served with a side order of self importance)
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To: REactor
This has nothing to do with independence from Moscow, which is a 14 year fact. It has everything to do with the Socialists running that nation and the MSM that lied about them and the socialist trolls here who defend them.

If you have info to disclaim these UKRAINIAN articles please post them, which interestingly rather doesn't happen.

29 posted on 08/18/2005 3:15:57 PM PDT by jb6 (The Atheist/Pagan mind, a quandary wrapped in egoism and served with a side order of self importance)
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To: REactor
But even if that was true: he is the leader chosen by his nation

So you had better never complain or post anything about any socialist/duer elected here in the US. The people elected them, you have no right to criticize them, especially out of your state.

I love the volume of certain people here who claim to be conservatives but openly bost for censorship, statism, etc.

30 posted on 08/18/2005 3:17:56 PM PDT by jb6 (The Atheist/Pagan mind, a quandary wrapped in egoism and served with a side order of self importance)
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To: jb6
Posted by jb6 to Lukasz:
Post 11 shows who the real liar is, you.

As we see post 11 is coming from World Socialist Web Site.

So sorry, you little propagandist, but here you only discrediting yourself.

31 posted on 08/18/2005 3:20:04 PM PDT by Lukasz
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To: REactor

Absolutely--its up to Ukrainians to democratically choose their leaders and let them deal with them as they see fit (democratically of course -:)))))


32 posted on 08/18/2005 3:21:15 PM PDT by sergey1973 (Russian American Political Blogger, Arm Chair Strategist)
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To: lizol

Problem is, most who start criticizing Putin do so in terms of: the Russian.... which makes it about the whole of the people not about a politician. Note, I have never criticized the Ukrainians, but have maintained my criticism SPECIFICALLY towards Yushchenko-Tymoshenko and their crew.


33 posted on 08/18/2005 3:22:57 PM PDT by jb6 (The Atheist/Pagan mind, a quandary wrapped in egoism and served with a side order of self importance)
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To: Lukasz

LOL That was good. From the same source (under the rubric"US imperialism"):

President George Bush’s inflammatory comments last Friday menacing Iran with military attack have again underscored the lawless character of the US administration

http://www.countercurrents.org/imperialism.htm


Hahaha.


34 posted on 08/18/2005 3:36:26 PM PDT by REactor
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To: jb6; GarySpFc; All; sergey1973; Lukasz



"My dear friend let dice fall and let them choose what is right. In for is truth of which of which country it is. they have chosen: for in it let them be happy. No matter of time or choosing: et for they are independent country for it they surely need respect. Look beyond the scope and just relax of it; et for is what it is."



Grazie/dzieki/thank you all


35 posted on 08/18/2005 3:42:54 PM PDT by anonymoussierra (Nie b¹dŸ pochopny w duchu do gniewu, bo gniew przebywa w piersi g³upców)
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To: jb6
Haven't you posted several threads recalling some aspects of Ukrainian history, claiming that they co-operated with Nazis etc. I think you have - as far as I remember.

Or the one from yesterday - about Polish - Ukrainian war.

What for? It's not related to Yushchenko at all.
36 posted on 08/18/2005 3:49:03 PM PDT by lizol
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To: jb6; GarySpFc; sergey1973; lizol; Lukasz; LUV W; Admin Moderator

"Post 11 shows who the real liar is, you.""jb6"please enough!!!!!!!!!



"I respect your opinions but stop having personal vendetta towards other people. I am sorry I have to use such a harsh language towards all of you; but you need to Knock it off; can you do this please jb6. Let’s have constrictive conversation but not personal attacks it leads to know where. All it does e for create hate. You can do better then that; so please from now one no personal attacks an nobody ok - God bless you all."



37 posted on 08/18/2005 3:56:40 PM PDT by anonymoussierra (Nie b¹dŸ pochopny w duchu do gniewu, bo gniew przebywa w piersi g³upców)
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To: lizol

The Ukrainian (and in this case it was those from Western Ukraine) were part of a running argument and historic. Yesterday's article was interesting, so I posted it. You might have noticed I've posted a lot more then just political/economic articles. For example, two recent threads I posted: 6 Mysteries of the Ancient World **and** Exploding Frogs in Germany. The Lemka article I posted I also posted because I thought it was interesting. Then a few posters came along and made a war zone out of it. Lukasz, for example who has to get his hatred for Russians into almost every thread he is on, regardless of the topic, as I've demonstrated from his own posting history and will continue to put up so everyone knows the one agenda that he is.


38 posted on 08/18/2005 3:59:53 PM PDT by jb6 (The Atheist/Pagan mind, a quandary wrapped in egoism and served with a side order of self importance)
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To: anonymoussierra

Why are you so selective in your moralizing? Why don't you say something to JB6 for his attacks against Poles? Lukasz's comment was at least to the point. BTW I personally don't see anything offensive in all this. It's just the heat of the discussion, don't overreact.


39 posted on 08/18/2005 4:10:55 PM PDT by REactor
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To: anonymoussierra

I agree the Ukraine, Poland and all countires should be free. I don't see how anyone can argue with that. However, it angers me to see the hate directed at Russia and Russians, when it should be directed at communists, which were in each of those countries. It is evil to apply group guilt to Russians. Indeed, it is every bit as evil as the acts of Stalin.


40 posted on 08/18/2005 4:11:00 PM PDT by GarySpFc (Sneakypete, De Oppresso Liber)
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