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| 18 August
Posted on 08/18/2005 12:16:45 PM PDT by jb6
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To: RusIvan
Who called me that way?
GarySpFc, for example
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posted on
08/20/2005 10:54:53 AM PDT
by
lizol
To: RusIvan
"Russian party"?
I think you know very well what I mean.
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posted on
08/20/2005 10:58:12 AM PDT
by
lizol
To: RusIvan; sergey1973
http://newsfromrussia.com/society/2003/03/06/44072.html
According to the last opinion poll held by the Russian Center for Public Opinion (VCIOM), 53% of the questioned think that Stalins role in the history of Russia was great. Number of people who negatively estimate the role of the leader is almost twice as less and makes up 33%.
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posted on
08/20/2005 12:34:25 PM PDT
by
REactor
To: RusIvan; All; jb6; sergey1973; Lukasz; lizol; spanalot
""You may find the Stalin extoll obly in Geogria today. He was georgian FYI. "
More Russian propaganda foolishness we don't suffer gladly. ==
What propaganda? Whole world knows that Stalin name was Josef Dzugashvilli. He was born by georgian father and mother. That make him a georgian not russian:))."
"Not to mention Lenin yes Lenin himself warned others not to dwell with this psychopath; not to mention Lenin itself was a psychopath; so now they are burning in deepest part in hell with their great leader Lucifer: fo it is special place for like these murderers people. Ideology can be destructive and in fore they took it to another level and showed what hate is; they are not the only ones. Let me hit this from different prospective: history is like a road it self is just a road; in it are bumps; if you can omit them and learn where they are: in surely you will drive finally. It is no use if you have no breaks; thought sometimes you need to run people over. To understand this is easy; to see is simple; to go beyond is much harder: in fore let be it be."
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posted on
08/20/2005 2:21:59 PM PDT
by
anonymoussierra
(Nie b¹dŸ pochopny w duchu do gniewu, bo gniew przebywa w piersi g³upców)
To: anonymoussierra
What's incredible is that Lenin was considered a right winger by Stalin and his bunch. Yup, Lenin was on the right of the most leftist group in the world, wow what a bloody accomplishment. /sarcasm
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posted on
08/20/2005 8:11:15 PM PDT
by
jb6
(The Atheist/Pagan mind, a quandary wrapped in egoism and served with a side order of self importance)
To: jb6; All; sergey1973; GarySpFc; lizol; A. Pole
"Hate itself is destructive; in eto is misery of human life. A fore is like putting acid on skin; it will destroy you and kill you. If only people understand there two concepts in life yes and no; in it is your choice. Humanity is running on self destruction from their own choices; at fore self is self but selfishness derives itself from pride and this leads to a source of it. In philosophy there was a man whom had said once Foolishness of a being is foolishness" Hegel created idea Kant went further Nietzsche took to a different level; all they had something in common. If someone has time read Gombrowicza books or Dostojewskiego; there is a good analogy of what life is. Let me go deeper if you have time read Plato and St.Thomas and Aristotle."
thank you/Dzieki trzymta sie
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posted on
08/21/2005 7:04:47 AM PDT
by
anonymoussierra
(Nie b¹dŸ pochopny w duchu do gniewu, bo gniew przebywa w piersi g³upców)
To: anonymoussierra
worth repeating as Putin becomes more Stalin like.
"To: RusIvan; sergey1973
http://newsfromrussia.com/society/2003/03/06/44072.html
According to the last opinion poll held by the Russian Center for Public Opinion (VCIOM), 53% of the questioned think that Stalins role in the history of Russia was great"
To: spanalot
I understand thank you"spanalot"
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posted on
08/21/2005 8:53:13 AM PDT
by
anonymoussierra
(Nie b¹dŸ pochopny w duchu do gniewu, bo gniew przebywa w piersi g³upców)
To: REactor
Don't waste your breath, EVERYTHING jb6 posts regarding the Ukraine, Youschenko, the Orange Revolution and the new government is Democracy/Ukrainian-NEGATIVE and ALWAYS pro-Russia, it is like jb6 is a soviet-forum plant or something on FR. Either that or he has no love for democracy for the Ukraine. Don't take my word for it, just check out his previous posts regarding the Ukraine; they speak for themselves, they are N E G A T I V E. He is not alone, there is another FR poster who goes by the name of GarySpFc, he is also consistently opposed to reform in the Ukraine and always posting negative comments about the Ukraine and voicing positive remarks regarding mother Russia.
If these guys had their way, the Ukraine would still be a soviet satellite state or under the puppet control of Kuchma or Yanakovich with Putin pulling the strings.
Are things perfect in the Ukraine? No, but no one in their right minds expects decades of corruption, blackmail and bribery to be overturned in 7 months. And in spite of all the difficulties, thing are much better now than they were when the Ukraine was under soviet domination or under the control of the corrupt Kuchma government. I know because I was there. My latest trip was in February 05 and I will be returning for 4 months in 06 in order to teach at a Christian University in the Ukraine.
I am imminently qualified to comment on the subject having lived and worked throughout the Ukraine and Russia (Kiev, Moscow, Odessa, Yalta, Sevastopol, Chernivtsi, Ternopil, St. Petersburg) since 1994. I was also in Chernivtsi and Kiev throughout the entire Orange Revolution, except for the final dismantling of tent city on Krischatic street after it was over and I have also lived in the Crimea after it ended and I can say from first-hand experience that the overwhelming majority of Ukrainians supported and democratically elected Youschenko as their president.
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posted on
08/26/2005 10:31:12 PM PDT
by
Jmouse007
("Negotiate and die!" Brought to you by "Islam the Religion of Peace tm")
To: Alter Kaker
Don't waste your breath, EVERYTHING jb6 posts regarding the Ukraine, Youschenko, the Orange Revolution and the new government is Democracy/Ukrainian-NEGATIVE and ALWAYS pro-Russia, it is like jb6 is a soviet-forum plant or something on FR. Either that or he has no love for democracy for the Ukraine. Don't take my word for it, just check out his previous posts regarding the Ukraine; they speak for themselves, they are N E G A T I V E. He is not alone, there is another FR poster who goes by the name of GarySpFc, he is also consistently opposed to reform in the Ukraine and always posting negative comments about the Ukraine and voicing positive remarks regarding mother Russia.
If these guys had their way, the Ukraine would still be a soviet satellite state or under the puppet control of Kuchma or Yanakovich with Putin pulling the strings.
Are things perfect in the Ukraine? No, but no one in their right minds expects decades of corruption, blackmail and bribery to be overturned in 7 months. And in spite of all the difficulties, thing are much better now than they were when the Ukraine was under soviet domination or under the control of the corrupt Kuchma government. I know because I was there. My latest trip was in February 05 and I will be returning for 4 months in 06 in order to teach at a Christian University in the Ukraine.
I am imminently qualified to comment on the subject having lived and worked throughout the Ukraine and Russia (Kiev, Moscow, Odessa, Yalta, Sevastopol, Chernivtsi, Ternopil, St. Petersburg) since 1994. I was also in Chernivtsi and Kiev throughout the entire Orange Revolution, except for the final dismantling of tent city on Krischatic street after it was over and I have also lived in the Crimea after it ended and I can say from first-hand experience that the overwhelming majority of Ukrainians supported and democratically elected Youschenko as their president.
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posted on
08/26/2005 10:33:15 PM PDT
by
Jmouse007
("Negotiate and die!" Brought to you by "Islam the Religion of Peace tm")
To: Jmouse007; A. Pole; MarMema; Mount Athos; Lion in Winter; RusIvan; YoungCorps; OldCorps; ...
Over and over you continue to SPAM the same posts on Free Republic attacking JB6 and myself. One only has to do a search by poster to see the same post repeated by you. Free Republic guidelines clearly state, "Don't spam."
I looked at your profile a couple of days ago, and was surprised to see you claim to be a Christian with the following credentials:
" By way of background I possess an earned Ph.D. in Biblical Studies, a M.A. in the New Testament and a B.A. in Bible. All of these degrees are from theologically conservative, evangelical schools. I have been in the ministry since 1980.
I would advise others to examine your profile carefully. I have an earned academic doctorate in theology from a conservative seminary, and found several questionable items in your profile and experiences. Without comment, I asked friends with doctorates in theology from Duke and Vanderbilt to examine your profile. They both cast strong doubt on the validity of your credentials and teaching experiences. I then emailed you privately offering you an opportunity to respond and received no reply. JB6 in a post then asked for the names of the schools where you taught. Once again, you did not respond.
I will let Freepers draw their own conclusions as to the veracity of anything you post.
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posted on
09/03/2005 9:59:23 AM PDT
by
GarySpFc
(Sneakypete, De Oppresso Liber)
To: GarySpFc
In response to your post; As for the letters you recently sent; I did not answer them because we have corresponded in the past and given the negative tenor of your previous letters I frankly have no interest in corresponding with you. They went directly into the "delete" file. That is why you did not hear from me.
In order to maintain anonymity I have deliberately chosen to not specifically list my credentials, nor do I plan to in the future. As for having people at Duke and Vanderbilt casting doubt on my credentials and teaching experience; both schools are theologically liberal and I do not have to "prove" myself to liberal academics who in all probability do not know Christ.
That said, in regard to my teaching experience; at the present time I am teaching two 6 unit courses.
I have also taught the following graduate and undergraduate-level courses multitudes of times, at Christian Colleges, evangelical seminaries, Bible colleges and Christian Universities within the United States as well as overseas.
The Gospel of Matthew
The Gospel of John
Old Testament Survey
The Minor Prophets
New Testament Survey
Apologetics, Cults
Romans
Galatians
Hebrews
Ephesians
Acts, Early Church History
Revelation
Pastoral Ministry
Personal Spiritual Life
Biblical Foundations
Christian Counseling
Teaching Principles and Methods
Hermeneutics (Bible Study Methods and Rules of Interpretation)
Systematic Theology (all 10 disciplines/areas of study)
New Testament Theology
Philosophy of Ministry
Missions, Evangelism and Discipleship
As for "attacking you and JB6," all I have done is warn FR readers that you both consistently post nothing but negative articles/posts regarding the Ukraine and it's democratically elected government. The only thing I ask them to do is to go back and read the articles you both have posted in the past as well as what you yourselves have said/posted with your own words. That is not "attacking" that is giving FR readers the facts and letting them come to their own conclusion. This forum isn't called "Free Republic" for nothing
It is also surprising and telling that by and large; the only people who support what you post is each other! You back up JB6 and he backs up you. Apart from that, the overwhelming majority of FR posters stand in opposition to you and your negative posts/perspective regarding free Ukraine.
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posted on
09/03/2005 5:09:23 PM PDT
by
Jmouse007
("Negotiate and die!" Brought to you by "Islam the Religion of Peace tm")
To: Jmouse007
In order to maintain anonymity I have deliberately chosen to not specifically list my credentials, nor do I plan to in the future. As for having people at Duke and Vanderbilt casting doubt on my credentials and teaching experience; both schools are theologically liberal and I do not have to "prove" myself to liberal academics who in all probability do not know Christ.
I respect your right to anonymity. However, I have to question how one can say they love Christ, and then witness to Him incognito? Additionally, you took the liberty to judge the hearts of two pastors as not Christians who just happen to be very conservative Bible believers as am I. Two of us are members of the church of Christ and one the UMC, all of us are very conservative on the doctrines of Christ and the Bible. My email to you should have proved beyond any doubt my views of Christ are very conservative and Bible based. Indeed, I have contributed works on to two major literal Bible translations. Your trashing the email proves you have little regard for the views of other conservative Christians.
Regarding your credentials, the three of us question them, because your area of teaching is FAR TOO BROAD, and would compare to a general surgeon teaching heart, brain, and eye surgeries. You claim a PhD in Biblical studies, yet are teaching Systematic Theology, Missions and Evangelism and Discipleship? Your MA is in New Testament, yet you are teaching an OT Survey course?
I am deeply committed to Christ and have extensive teaching experience on both the graduate and undergraduate level. I have also been blessed with a wide range of international ministry/missions experience throughout the Pacific Rim (Hong Kong, Japan, Taiwan, Singapore, the Philippines), as well as the former Soviet Union. Additionally, I possess comprehensive pastoral and prison chaplaincy experience and have ministered to congregations numbering from 250 to well over 2000 people.
Obviously, with a PhD in Biblical Studies you are claiming to know the koine Greek, Aramaic, and the Hebrew languages. Additionally, your missions would require knowledge of Russian, Ukrainian, and the several Pacific Rim nations you have worked.
Crossing one Discipline is fine -- anything in OT and NT or Theology and Ethics, or NT and Theology. But OT, NT, all 10 fields of Systematic Theology, Church History, Ministry, Evangelism, Missions, Pedagogy, Spiritual Formation ... You are claiming to have taught in nearly every Discipline of Theological Studies. I know some of the very top Bible scholars, with multiple doctorates and none make your claims.
As for "attacking you and JB6," all I have done is warn FR readers that you both consistently post nothing but negative articles/posts regarding the Ukraine and it's democratically elected government. The only thing I ask them to do is to go back and read the articles you both have posted in the past as well as what you yourselves have said/posted with your own words. That is not "attacking" that is giving FR readers the facts and letting them come to their own conclusion. This forum isn't called "Free Republic" for nothing
You say you have not attacked me, and all you have done is warn other FR readers that JB6 and myself post negative articles about the Ukraine. In one of your latest posts to Ms. Lynch you wrote, "I wanted to write and thank you for posting positive/truthful posts in opposition to the on-going lies and distortions posted by jb6 and GarySpFc, you are not alone." Excuse me for saying this, but that clearly sounds like a vicious attack.
It is also surprising and telling that by and large; the only people who support what you post is each other! You back up JB6 and he backs up you. Apart from that, the overwhelming majority of FR posters stand in opposition to you and your negative posts/perspective regarding free Ukraine.
Oh nonsense! Firstly, JB6 and I do not always support each other. He is a member of the Orthodox Church, whereas I am a member of the church of Christ. He agrees with the exclusivity of the ROC for Russians, whereas I abhor that position. There are other differences.
Secondly, there are many other Freepers who support our position including; a.pole, Marmema, Mount Athos, Lion in Winter, RusIvan, youngcorps, oldcorps, fairopinion, RussianBoor, eluminate, formerlib, honorary serb, dta, qqqqq, gba, wildandcrazyrussian, Romanov, JB6, JosephW, Sinestro
Finally, do you recall your post confirming 1,000 Russian Spetsnaz landed in Kiev, and Russian tanks were advancing from the South. You were either dead wrong or are confirming a bald faced lie, but then the Orange Revolution would never do that.
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posted on
09/03/2005 9:58:43 PM PDT
by
GarySpFc
(Sneakypete, De Oppresso Liber)
To: GarySpFc
You said: "Regarding your credentials, the three of us question them, because your area of teaching is FAR TOO BROAD, and would compare to a general surgeon teaching heart, brain, and eye surgeries. You claim a PhD in Biblical studies, yet are teaching Systematic Theology, Missions and Evangelism and Discipleship? Your MA is in New Testament, yet you are teaching an OT Survey course?"
By the grace of God, through the power of the indwelling Holy Spirit I have in point of fact taught all of the courses mentioned. Yes, some were not in the field I originally majored in; however that did not preclude my ability, through the indwelling Holy Spirit to study, research, prepare and accurately teach the material. Your presupposition that one can not extend his teaching expertise beyond his original field of study is false, it happens all the time, especially when God is the one opening the door, presenting the need, providing the opportunity and preparing the teacher.
You quoted my statement: 'I am deeply committed to Christ and have extensive teaching experience on both the graduate and undergraduate level. I have also been blessed with a wide range of international ministry/missions experience throughout the Pacific Rim (Hong Kong, Japan, Taiwan, Singapore, the Philippines), as well as the former Soviet Union. Additionally, I possess comprehensive pastoral and prison chaplaincy experience and have ministered to congregations numbering from 250 to well over 2000 people.'
and said:
"Obviously, with a PhD in Biblical Studies you are claiming to know the Koine Greek, Aramaic, and the Hebrew languages. Additionally, your missions would require knowledge of Russian, Ukrainian, and the several Pacific Rim nations you have worked."
The truth is, since 1971 I have served Christ within all of the countries listed above and God just added Honduras to the list. Yes I know Koine Greek, Aramaic, and enough Russian and Ukrainian to survive and thrive in country. However, I have never claimed the linguistic adeptness necessary to teach courses in Russian, Ukrainian, etc... . When teaching overseas, I always work through exceptionally qualified Christian translators who are proficient with biblical and theological terms. My teaching notes, outlines and teaching materials are also translated into their native language. For example I recently returned from teaching in Honduras; while I do not know Spanish, the Christian translator I worked through has such tremendous Spanish/English translational skills she worked for years in the Honduran Embassy in Washington, DC. While I wish I possessed the biblical gift of tongues, unfortunately I do not
You said: "Crossing one Discipline is fine -- anything in OT and NT or Theology and Ethics, or NT and Theology. But OT, NT, all 10 fields of Systematic Theology, Church History, Ministry, Evangelism, Missions, Pedagogy, Spiritual Formation ... You are claiming to have taught in nearly every Discipline of Theological Studies. I know some of the very top Bible scholars, with multiple doctorates and none make your claims."
I can not speak for those "very top Bible scholars, with multiple Ph.D's" that you mentioned, all I can tell you is what God has accomplished in my life. Again, the answer is yes; it is not a "claim," it is the truth, I have taught all of the courses mentioned above, many of them multiple times.
As for your comments: "Regarding your credentials, the three of us question them, because your area of teaching is FAR TOO BROAD,"... "crossing one discipline is fine...,"
Who made you or your two colleagues higher-educational arbiters of what God can and can not choose to do through servants whom He has prepared who are yielded and obedient to His will?
God, in His mercy has opened the doors, provided the graduate and undergraduate teaching opportunities and has given me the strength, ability and skill necessary to faithfully accomplish all of the teaching tasks He has set before me.
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posted on
09/04/2005 7:53:04 AM PDT
by
Jmouse007
("Negotiate and die!" Brought to you by "Islam the Religion of Peace tm")
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