Rush Kicking *ss on Gorelick/The Wall/Clinton (Finally)

"Why wasn't this brought out immediately after 9-11? It was on FR a looooooong time ago and Limbaugh is just NOW picking up on it. The news about Gorelick ..." ~ nonliberal

Foolish question and comments. You haven't been paying attention.

I of 42 transcripts from Rush's web site - 24/7 archives section - using the search word: GORELICK

See I Told You So (Shortly after 9/11)
Gorelick Wall Prevented Us from Foiling 9/11
August 9, 2005
http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/home/daily/site_080905/content/see_i_told_you_so.member.html

BEGIN TRANSCRIPT

RUSH: I want to take you back in time, not just to the 9/11 Committee hearings but shortly after 9/11 itself, when everybody was talking about, "Why didn't we connect the dot? Why didn't we connect the dots!" and I said, "You know why we didn't connect the dots -- meaning the FBI and the CIA, military intelligence, "Why couldn't we share information with each others? There's one reason. The Clinton administration -- and most importantly, Jamie Gorelick." Jamie Gorelick -- who was #2 at the justice department; she really ran the place while Janet Reno was the face of the justice department -- erected a wall, and because the Clinton administration determined that they were going to fight terrorism not as a war but as a legal matter, and they were going to use indictments, and they were going to use grand jury testimony to try to nail these people -- and, of course, grand jury testimony is, by law, confidential -- and so any information gathered by, say, the CIA or the FBI had to be turned over to justice, and when justice got it and took it to the grand jury, it became confidential, could not be shared with any of the other branches, and that's one of the reasons why we couldn't "connect the dots," because strategery that the Clinton administration used to fight terrorism -- when they cared about it. Well, get this from no less than the New York Times. It's a story that's headlined this way: "Four in 9/11 Plot Are Called Tied to Al-Qaeda in 2000." This story is all about how we knew four of the 19 hijackers and we were tracking them. We knew who they were in 2000 but we couldn't do anything about it because the information that was known couldn't be shared.

[]"More than a year before the Sept. 11 attacks, a small, highly classified military intelligence unit identified Mohammed Atta and three other future hijackers as likely members of a cell of Al Qaeda operating in the United States, according to a former defense intelligence official and a Republican member of Congress." This is about Curt Weldon and his book, and remember how the left tried to cream Curt Weldon and his book? "In the summer of 2000, the military team, known as Able Danger..." In the summer of 2000, who was president? Who was president in the summer of 2000? Somebody help me out, here. I think it was this guy Clinton was president, yeah, because the campaign of 2000, the election of 2000 wasn't until November, and Bush wasn't inaugurated until January. Of course, that election wasn't decided until December. Remember that, Brian? So the summer of 2000 would be Bill Clinton was president, and this military team, Able Danger, "...prepared a chart that included visa photographs of the four men and recommended to the military's Special Operations Command that the information be shared with the Federal Bureau of Investigation... The recommendation was rejected and the information was not shared [Representative Curt Weldon and a former intelligence official] said, apparently at least in part because Mr. Atta, and the others were in the United States on valid entry visas. Under American law, United States citizens and green-card holders may not be singled out in intelligence-collection operations by the military or intelligence agencies. That protection does not extend to visa holders, but Mr. Weldon and the former intelligence official said it might have reinforced a sense of discomfort common before Sept. 11 about sharing intelligence information with a law enforcement agency. A former spokesman for the Sept. 11 commission, Al Felzenberg, confirmed that members of its staff, including Philip Zelikow, the executive director, were told about the program on an overseas trip in October 2003 that included stops in Afghanistan and Pakistan. But Mr. Felzenberg said the briefers did not mention Mr. Atta's name.

"The report produced by the commission last year does not mention the episode. [the 9/11 Report] Mr. Weldon first spoke publicly about the episode in June, in a little-noticed speech on the House floor and in an interview with The Times-Herald in Norristown, Pa.... The account is the first assertion that Mr. Atta, an Egyptian who became the lead hijacker in the plot, was identified by any American government agency as a potential threat before the Sept. 11 attacks. Among the 19 hijackers, only Khalid al-Mihdhar and Nawaf al-Hazmi had been identified as potential threats by the Central Intelligence Agency before the summer of 2000, and information about them was not provided to the F.B.I. until the spring of 2001." Now, this story does not say what I just said to you. This story does not go on to talk about the wall that Jamie Gorelick erected and that the 9/11 Commission was not interested in hearing about, but it does cite the fact that Atta was known and that military intelligence was not allowed to share the information with the FBI. They don't say why. The why was because of the wall. They're trying to hide this under some visa law but it has nothing to do with that. It has everything to do with the fact that the Clinton administration had laws on the books that these agencies couldn't share information with one way or another, i.e., connect the dots, because of the need to maintain the privacy and secrecy of grand jury testimony. I kid you not -- and I don't know where Richard Clarke was on this, and I don't know where "the Jersey Girls" are on this now, since the Jersey Girls out there leading the charge that Bush didn't do enough, and Bush didn't act fast, and Bush didn't connect the dots, and, of course, we all know now. We've known it for a while. I find it fascinating that the New York Times actually runs with the story, especially considering Curt Weldon is one of the sources. But it's just another See, I Told You So.

END TRANSCRIPT

Read the Articles...
(NY Times: Four in 9/11 Plot Are Called Tied to Qaeda in '00)
(NewsMax: Clinton Admin. Knew of 9/11 Hijackers)
(WSJ: Gorelick's Wall. The Commissioner belongs in the witness chair)
(NRO: The Wall Truth)

"Thanks, Rush, for letting her speak virtually interrupted. I wish the whole country could have heard her." - MinuteGal

I agree.

This is another one that is much more powerful to hear than to just read the transcript. Those who didn't hear it may go here and click on the blue "Listen to Rush" bar just above where the transcript begins.
http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/home/daily/site_081705/content/caller_of_the_year_.member.html

Debbie in Indianapolis, the Voice of America
August 17, 2005

BEGIN TRANSCRIPT

RUSH: This is Debbie in Indianapolis, named after Indians, and it's the headquarters of the NCAA. Welcome to the program.

[]CALLER: Hey, Rush we come from a super mega dittos household. When my 13-year-old was born she said ditto before she could say mom.

RUSH: (Laughing.) I'm not surprised. The future of America.

CALLER: Absolutely. I'm a MOM, which stands for, "Mother of a Marine", and I'm looking for a bumper sticker that says, "Your son got an A in college; my son got a Purple Heart in Iraq." His vehicle ran over a land mine twice in one day. We always talk about "if" something would happen to my son, I would never dishonor him.

I'm sorry. I'm getting emotional in this.

I would never dishonor his actions by doing what this woman is doing. My son volunteered to join the Marines. When he was 18 years, one month, and ten days old on September 12th he announced that he was joining the Marines after he saw the Twin Towers fall. When his first orders to Iraq were canceled he told us that, "Bush better not pull out before I get there." He knew it was something that needed to be done. He's going back for his second tour next month. What she's doing is not only dishonoring her son, she's dishonoring mine.

RUSH: Debbie, I can't thank you enough for calling, and I can't thank you enough for doing another thing. You have just spoken for the vast majority of Americans in your call. You have just echoed exactly what they think. God bless you. Thanks so much for your call.

CALLER: I hope so. Thank you.

RUSH: You have, trust me on this. You are far more a voice, a representative voice of the people of this country than any of the rabble rousing malcontents that are being given airtime in a failed attempt to destroy the policy by the mainstream press. Trust me.

CALLER: It hurts me that she's sending the message that it seems like her son died for nothing. He didn't die for nothing. He died in the United States Armed Forces. There's nothing more honorable than that.

These kids volunteered. They were not yanked from their cradle by an evil government to send them someplace they didn't want to go. My son knew on September 12th he was going over. My son knew what was in store for him, and my son stepped up to the plate.

The caller you had on Monday, he was talking about, "Gee, how come these senators' kids aren't volunteering if the war is so great?" We're not going to talk about if the war is so great, let's talk about these kids who are great who stepped up to the plate and said, "You know what, I need to do something about this. There's something bigger than me out there."

RUSH: Debbie, exactly right. Debbie, thank you again. You just heard it, Debbie in Indianapolis, the voice of this country.

END TRANSCRIPT

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"also missing the BIG ISSUE raised by the Able Danger & Dept of Defense (DOD) revelations. I tried to call in and couldn't get through BUT....GORELICK WAS GENERAL COUNSEL FOR THE DOD BEFORE GOING TO THE DOJ Before crippling anti-terrorism at the DOJ what did she do at the DOD? What walls did she erect at the DOD? What network of like minded leftist lawyers did she leave behind to protect the rights of terrorist and spike terrorist intelligence"? ~ drpix

I think Rush is already aware of that. Notice what was known over a year ago - back in April 2004:

There is a wealth of info in this April 2004 FR thread I'm linking you to. I have copied a few VERY telling things below from it. Read these comments in light of what is coming out right now - don't miss the last two. This is going to be HUGE before all is said and done. I don't think they'll be able to contain the fall-out.

FReeper Research: GORELICK
Posted on 04/16/2004 10:17:42 AM EDT by adam_az
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1118806/posts

To: mewzilla

"Gorelick also worked at DOD. Wonder what she did there?"

Considering she was General Counsel, I'm sure before any military decisions were made, they had to go through her. If you recall Clinton's bombing of Sudan and Afghanistan, a big deal was made about why he didn't inform the Joint Chiefs or his Principles. Far be it for me to defend Clinton, but this may have been one of the reasons.

It was becoming painfully obvious that the Clinton administration was becoming bogged down in legalese, whether at the DoJ or DoD. I always wondered were Clinton got the idea that he couldn't extradite UBL from the Sudan...or why when our Predator drones spotted OBL, military strikes weren't launched. These appear to all be things that would come under the control of Gorelick (or her associates) as they put lawyers at the top of the chain of command.

15 posted on 04/16/2004 10:41:42 AM EDT by cwb
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1118806/posts?page=15#15

To: cwb

"Gorelick also worked at DOD. Wonder what she did there?"

Look here: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1118652/posts?page=74#74

Gorelick also worked at DOD, on something called the Threat Reduction Advisory Committee. Does that sound like someone who was out of the loop, unimportant, just a figurehead...Wonder what she did at DOD?"

TRAC homepage: http://www.dtra.mil/about/organization/ab_asco_trac.html

The TRAC advises and assists the Under Secretary of Defense (Acquisition, Technology and Logistics) on reduction of the threat to the United States and its allies from nuclear, biological, chemical (NBC), conventional and special weapons, sustainment of the the nuclear weapons deterrent, chemical and biological defense, counterproliferation, technology security, weapons effects and other matters related to the DTRA mission. The TRAC identifies and considers emerging Weapons of Mass Destruction (WMD) Threats, reviews countermeasures to such threats and assesses the adequacy of DTRA and other programs' responses to national policy and emerging threats.

MORE INTERESTING:

http://www.dtra.mil/news/his_mat/osi/nw_unscom.html

On September 4, 1998, Secretary of Defense William Cohen designated the newly formed Defense Threat Reduction Agency (DTRA) to assume executive agent duties from OSIA effective October 1, 1998. Among other duties, DTRA manages DOD's response to UNSCOM requests for inspection team personnel, technical experts, monitoring equipment, supplies and other support. DTRA has the authority, consistent with the UN Participation Act, Executive Order 10206 and applicable DOD directives, to direct DOD components to procure or provide personnel, services, facilities, supplies, equipment and other assistance from existing DOD stores.

19 posted on 04/16/2004 10:43:14 AM EDT by adam_az
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1118806/posts?page=19#19

To: adam_az

It looks like she probably worked with Richard Clarke in getting the CIA to create that bizarre cartoon to close out the TWA800 explosion investigation.

DEEPER CIA LINK BY 9/11 PANELIST

How Richard Clarke concocted the TWA 800 'exit strategy'

TWA Flight 800, and the Gorelick connection

"...although Ramzi Yousef was on trial that very day in New York for his role in Operation Bojinka, there was no connection made between those plans and the destruction of the plane. Just the opposite. Richard Clarke, in fact, takes credit for suppressing the real evidence and discovering the preposterous "mechanical failure" thesis that the administration eventually made stick.

Although it is easy to blame the FBI for the shameful investigative breakdowns both in Oklahoma City and on Long Island, its agents did not subvert the investigations of their own accord. Their orders came from Washington. The responsibility for enforcing these orders fell to Deputy Attorney General Jamie Gorelick, who served as the Soviet equivalent of the "political officer" within the Justice Department.

On Aug. 22, 1996 – five weeks after the crash of TWA 800 – Gorelick summoned the FBI's Jim Kallstrom to Washington to be served up a dose of survival reality. Kallstrom had been a good soldier. He had kept all talk of eyewitnesses and satellites and radar and missiles out the news. But the evidence had led him far away from mechanical failure, and there was no easy way to turn back.

To be sure, no account of the meeting provides any more than routine detail, but behaviors began to change immediately afterward, especially after the New York Times broke a headline story the next day, top right: "Prime Evidence Found That Device Exploded in Cabin of Flight 800." This article stole the thunder from Clinton's election-driven approval of welfare reform in that same day's paper and threatened to undermine the peace and prosperity message of next week's Democratic convention.

On that same Aug. 23, the Federal Aviation Administration began to inquire whether any explosives-training exercises had ever taken place on the plane that would become TWA 800. From that day forward, the FBI would do no more serious eyewitness interviews. On that same day, Kallstrom was now saying for the first time, "It was possible that the PETN could have been brought on the plane by a passenger and was not part of a bomb."

Jim Kallstrom was not the only one who had learned the hard way that there could be no terrorism in the summer of 1996. At the "feel good" Atlanta Olympics, the beleaguered security guard Richard Jewell, the poor soul who first spotted the Centennial Park bomb, was learning a harder lesson still.

Although Davis does not document Gorelick's role in Oklahoma City, media accounts routinely describe her as the director of the Oklahoma City task force, the so-called "field commander." As Davis has told me, someone in Washington called the FBI in Oklahoma City and issued a two-word directive on its investigation into Islamic terrorism: "Kill it."

If that person is not Jamie Gorelick, perhaps she could tell the 9-11 Commission who it is. By suppressing the truth in Oklahoma City, Long Island and Atlanta – and then burying it – the Clinton administration left America wide open on Sept. 11. Apologies are in order, but they will not be enough."

21 posted on 04/16/2004 10:53:18 AM EDT by spycatcher
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1118806/posts?page=21#21

To: cwb

I always wondered were Clinton got the idea that he couldn't extradite UBL from the Sudan

OMG. You're right. Looks like he actually GOT that legal call from Jamie.

Yours is a hugely important observation.

29 posted on 04/16/2004 11:11:13 AM EDT by M. Thatcher (.)
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1118806/posts?page=29#29

See #30 below (too much info to print here)
30 posted on 04/16/2004 11:11:48 AM EDT by Diogenesis
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1118806/posts?page=29#29

nonliberal Re #48: "Thank you for the research. FR beats Limbaugh by at least a year and I belive the Gorelick wall is about 3-4 years old on FR."

You're welcome. Now let's rehearse what I sent you in #44, since I see you've ignored that:

nonliberal: "Why wasn't this brought out immediately after 9-11? It was on FR a looooooong time ago and Limbaugh is just NOW picking up on it. The news about Gorelick ..."

Matchett-PI: "Foolish question and comments. You haven't been paying attention.

I of 42 transcripts from Rush's web site - 24/7 archives section - using the search word: GORELICK

See I Told You So (Shortly after 9/11)
Gorelick Wall Prevented Us from Foiling 9/11
August 9, 2005

BEGIN TRANSCRIPT

RUSH: I want to take you back in time, not just to the 9/11 Committee hearings but shortly after 9/11 itself, when everybody was talking about, "Why didn't we connect the dot? Why didn't we connect the dots!" and I said, "You know why we didn't connect the dots -- meaning the FBI and the CIA, military intelligence, "Why couldn't we share information with each others? There's one reason. The Clinton administration -- and most importantly, Jamie Gorelick." Jamie Gorelick -- who was #2 at the justice department; she really ran the place while Janet Reno was the face of the justice department -- erected a wall, and because the Clinton administration determined that they were going to fight terrorism not as a war but as a legal matter, and they were going to use indictments, and they were going to use grand jury testimony to try to nail these people -- and, of course, grand jury testimony is, by law, confidential -- and so any information gathered by, say, the CIA or the FBI had to be turned over to justice, and when justice got it and took it to the grand jury, it became confidential, could not be shared with any of the other branches, and that's one of the reasons why we couldn't "connect the dots," because strategery that the Clinton administration used to fight terrorism -- when they cared about it. ...." [snip]

bttt

BTTT back atcha! He's kicking MSM leftist butt again today! Go Rush!

He's taking on the totally twisted media nit-wits that TOTALLY TWISTED what he said about Burkett and Sheehan. Here below - from the MRC - is another nitwit he didn't mention - but Olbermann had to recognize himself because of the adjectives Rush used to describe those who twisted his words. Hahahaha

The 2,032nd CyberAlert. Tracking Liberal Media Bias Since 1996
9:45am EDT, Thursday August 18, 2005 (Vol. Ten; No. 145)
http://www.mediaresearch.org

[snip]

3. Olbermann Distorts Rush, Calls Him "Worst Person in the World!" On Wednesday night, MSNBC's Keith Olbermann labeled Rush Limbaugh as the day's "Worst Person in the World!" in a segment that airs regularly on his 8pm EDT Countdown show. He normally introduces three nominees for the dishonor -- tagged as "worse," "worser," and "worst." Olbermann took Limbaugh out of context in highlighting the Limbaugh quote promoted by a far-left group: "Cindy Sheehan is just Bill Burkett. Her story is nothing more than forged documents. There's nothing about it that's real." Olbermann snidely quipped: "I guess she made up that dead-son-in-Iraq business." He also gratuitously speculated that "painkillers wipe out your memory along with your ethics."

Here's another item in the same Media Research Center report today:

4. Soldier to Lauer: "I'd Be Depressed Too If I Got News" from Media Matt Lauer sure seemed to have gotten an answer he didn't expect when a soldier in Iraq took a shot at the news media. Live from Camp Liberty in Iraq in the 7:30am half hour of Wednesday's Today, after one soldier told Lauer morale is "always high," Lauer countered that there are "people at home wondering how that could be possible with the conditions you're facing and with the attacks you're facing. What would you say to those people who are doubtful that morale can be that high?" Captain Sherman Powell retorted: "Sir, if I got my news from the newspapers also, I'd be pretty depressed as well." Lauer gave him a chance to expound: "What don't you think is being correctly portrayed?" Powell answered that "we are very satisfied with the way things are going here and we are confident that if we're allowed to finish the job we started we'll be very proud of it and our country will be proud of us for doing it." [lots more at the above link]

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