Potential Republican Crack-Up

[MikefromOhio]

FRiends...

with us today is FReeper KMB, who, like someone I could mention from yesterday, is more or less saying that the GOP will split along religious and/or Philosophical lines.

I think someone needs some shock "therapy"...


anyone?

[Darksheare]

I know.
He seems to either be unaware of that, or is aware of it but hoping that he hasn't been lied to again by the libs.

[KMB]

Not relishing the thought but yes. If she were up against someone who opposed Stem Cell research or refused to disavow the anti-evolution crowd then yes... I know that bush opposed Stem Cell Research in '04 but I actually thought that he'd change positions after the election and even if he didn't, Iraq was the more important issue.

In '08, if it was someone like Brownback (and I think he could be a darkhorse for the GOP nomination) who opposes stem cell research and, most importantly, refuses to support evolution, then I probably couldn't vote for him.

It'd only be for 4 or 8 years... Not the end of the world.

[Darksheare]

"You'll do this and nothing else if I vote for you?"
'Yessssssss.'
"MMM.. Okay!"
'Your ssssssoul issssss mine!'
"What was that?"
'Oh.. nothing.'

[MikefromOhio]

LOL

well when those fuses turn black, they tend to fry :)

[section9]

Actually, you're wrong. Rudy won't be the nominee. Rice will be. And she's strongest on the issue that most Republicans really care about, 2nd Amerndment. That's the one issue, incluing abortion, that a Republican simply cannot compromise on.

Roe won't be repealed tomorrow. Maybe in 5-10 years it might be sent back to the states, but that will be the extent of it. Some of the yahoos on this board think a Human Life Amendment would pass Congress and be approved by the State Legislatures. They're just chasing after the Perfect in place of the Good. Meanwhile, abortions keep going on and they keep promoting dogcatcher candidates like Brownback and Tancredo. I mean, I understand where you're coming from partly, but Hillary would kick these guys in the balls. Saying you'd vote for Hillary instead of Brownback is a bit like saying you'd vote for Heinrich Himmler instead of Jesus Christ. Any guy who's going to vote for a gungrabber like Hillary under any circumstances needs to check his conservatism.

RKBA keeps the party together. The Donks think its abortion. That's why they're stupid people. Remember that: it's the guns that make the party go. Condi knows that-you should too.

Be Seeing You,

Chris

[Darksheare]

They glow funny too.

[darkangel82]

McCain was unacceptable before the Feingold bill, because he is a RINO.

[mware]

As a matter of fact Bush was the 1st president to allow embryonic stem cell research to occur. (Something I disagree with him on.)

If embryonic stem cell research had any chance to be fruitful don't you think that the private sector would be knocking down the doors?

Do the research, adult stem cells have saved thousands of people in 56 different clinical treatments. Embryonic stem cells have 0 treatments.

[Harmless Teddy Bear]

Why is it that these people claim to be "Conservative" when it is obvious that they have not the faintest idea what being a conservative actually is?

So much of this stuff that they claim to care about falls under the category of "Stuff the Fed has no business being involved with in the first place." To vote for a democrat is to vote for INCREASED federal involvement.

To vote for a conservative is to vote for someone who understands the inappropriateness of federal involvement and, whether he agrees with it or not, will attempt to remove the Federal government from the equation.

[mware]

Make that federal funding of embryonic stem cell research.

[Brad’s Gramma]

Hillary! stands for Hillary!. She could care LESS about you. She'll lie, steal, cheat...whatever to get your vote. The fact that you don't know this already, leads me to believe that you've been in her camp all the while.

[KMB]

I don't think Rice will run but I'd support her if she did. She'd be an ideal President though.

[codercpc]

I am Pro - Life, somewhat squishy on the death penalty, against gay marriage, and I don't have a strong feeling either way about evolution (I am more for intelligent design, but also believe in evolution). But you are wrong on so many levels.

Terry Schiavo upset me, I didn't think the government should have gotten involved. I was accused of being a death monger, and many other things on this very site. But I don't think it would ever make me leave the Republican Party.

Stem Cell research could be a problem. As a Pro - Life believer, I do have an ethical problem with producing embryos only to destroy them for research, but I have no problems with using "left over" embryos that were destined for destruction anyway. I would love to see more legislation on the amount of embryos that can be created for in vitro tries, but since that isn't happening, I think they could be donated for good use. As long as there was no financial incentive, and the parents of the embryo donated them of their own free will, I don't see this any different than donating organs. I know that many Freepers disagree with this, but the reality is that they will never all be adopted out, and they will be destroyed, so if they can do more good I am for it.

But, I think your main premise is wrong, I think the two main issues that WOULD split the Republican Party are, gun control, and illegal immigration. And with the first one (Gun Control) Rudy fails miserably!!!!!

[Darksheare]

I dunno.
Most of my generation, Gen X-ers to the 30 year age threshold, are conditioned to think government should do 'this' or government should do 'that' as well as 'there aughta be a law.'

So they see government as an end all be all, and think in terms of 'government' instead of 'right and wrong'.

[Harmless Teddy Bear]

Well yes. That too! But I was just giving concrete resent history examples as to why his heroes were unacceptable.

Bottom line is that they are not conservatives and so whether they agree with me on issues or not is moot.

[KMB]

You think I missed the period from '92 to present??? You think I don't know that she'll lie, cheat or steal or do practically anything under the sun to get a vote??? Of course I do.

Bill Clinton signed one of the most conservative bills in the past 75 years in 1996 (welfare reform) in order to get re-elected. She's the same. She'll do whatever, WHATEVER it takes to get elected -- and that means ditching 90% of her agenda.

[darkangel82]

True, they're Repubs first and conservatives second, when it should be the other way around. Plus, if you've ever thought of voting for anyone named Clinton, you aren't a conservative. I think this article was posted just so the OP could say "See, they are cracking up."

[Darksheare]

"You think I don't know that she'll lie, cheat or steal or do practically anything under the sun to get a vote??? Of course I do."

Then why do you state that you'll vote for the insane holstien?

[MikefromOhio]

So you are cheerleading for her now I see....