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War of the Worlds screenwriter says Martians slaughtering humans are metaphore for U.S. military
Larry Elder Talk Radio Show on KABC AM 790 Los Angeles ^
| Tuesday, July 19, 2005
| Larry Elder
Posted on 07/19/2005 5:35:21 PM PDT by FraudFactor.com
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When we see leftist political propaganda in movies and television, including negative stereotypes, language, messages, and symbolism, the rational conclusion is that it is there on purpose and not by accident. It is there with the specific intent of manipulating or "shaping" public opinion to influence election outcomes and to change societal norms.
If the propaganda were there by accident, based on random chance, then we would expect approximately 50 percent of the bias to favor conservatives, rather than 90 to 100 percent favoring leftists and unfairly and dishonestly attacking conservatives. This is the same as if you are always short-changed. This is not a random error or bias. You are being cheated if you are not given comparable amounts of extra change half the time there is an error.
Capitalism gives us the ultimate freedom, because we can vote for the products and services we like and against those we dislike (or that dislike us), every time we spend our money. This voting process helps improve the quality of products and services provided by the free market. Let's vote intelligently!
To: FraudFactor.com
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posted on
07/19/2005 5:36:39 PM PDT
by
bnelson44
(Proud parent of a tanker!)
To: FraudFactor.com
I guess this clown is unaware of the fact that when H.G. Wells wrote the book it was considered a metaphor for a war between England and Germany.
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posted on
07/19/2005 5:37:41 PM PDT
by
Armigerous
( Non permitte illegitimi te carborundum- "Don't let the bastards grind you down")
To: FraudFactor.com
the two anti-gun sceneswell, i suppose if you are anti-gun, a virus will have to do on the occasion that you are invaded by martians. that's peaceful and loving and non-violent.
man, these doofuses blow.
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posted on
07/19/2005 5:38:55 PM PDT
by
wildwood
To: Armigerous
Frankly, I liked the original with Gene Barry. This new one sounds like a clunker.
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posted on
07/19/2005 5:41:13 PM PDT
by
asp1
To: bnelson44
His movie bombedI wish I had a $449million bomb on my resume. (Not including future box office, DVD and TV income.)
Yeah. REAL big bomb.
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posted on
07/19/2005 5:41:21 PM PDT
by
Darkwolf377
(Dean won't call Osama guilty without a trial, but DeLay and Rove should be in jail)
To: asp1
I read this idiot's BS about the script being about us in Iraq a few weeks ago and simply put it out of my mind while I watched. As a huge fan of the original, I have to admit this one is far superior--it's closer to the book, the FX are great, and I was just drawn into the movie.
I don't go to movies for the fool moviemakers's political "thoughts" since I assume they're all libs, anyway. But the movie itself was terrific.
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posted on
07/19/2005 5:42:56 PM PDT
by
Darkwolf377
(Dean won't call Osama guilty without a trial, but DeLay and Rove should be in jail)
To: wildwood
"metaphor for U.S. military"
Treason is not difficult to define. Treason is when your country is at war and you want the other side to win. If America is like evil invading Martians, then we are evil and should be destroyed.
I am so glad that I didn't go see this film and never will now. We have got to stop feeding the beast even if we can't stop it.
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posted on
07/19/2005 5:46:40 PM PDT
by
garjog
To: Darkwolf377
I wish I had a $449million bomb on my resume. (Not including future box office, DVD and TV income.)
Yeah. REAL big bomb."
Production Budget: was $132 million. I don't know what the marketing cost was. But $449 million gross (given all they hype) does not give them much profit once you subtract the marketing costs and overhead.
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posted on
07/19/2005 5:47:26 PM PDT
by
bnelson44
(Proud parent of a tanker!)
To: wildwood
the two anti-gun scenes
well, i suppose if you are anti-gun, a virus will have to do on the occasion that you are invaded by martians. that's peaceful and loving and non-violent.
man, these doofuses blow.
Actually, there are two explicit anti-gun scenes, plus the overall anti-gun (and anti-military) theme where the military weapons are useless against the aliens (presumably Martians), but simple bacterial or viruses do the job. Note that this occurs through "Mother Nature", rather than biological warfare. What a missed opportunity to improve a bad movie!
One explicit anti-gun scene involves the shotgun-wielding survivalist. The other is the scene involving handguns where the car that Tom Cruise stole is stolen from him.
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posted on
07/19/2005 5:52:40 PM PDT
by
FraudFactor.com
(Support redistricting reform to end gerrymandering and achieve more honest and responsive government)
To: Darkwolf377
Awwwww shoot!...There went my day. ;o)
I will have to wait for the DVD. Because I never, but never go to the movies anymore. Thanks, Darkwolf377, I will give it try.
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posted on
07/19/2005 5:53:14 PM PDT
by
asp1
To: bnelson44
A cruise missile that veered off course.
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posted on
07/19/2005 5:56:34 PM PDT
by
xp38
To: bnelson44
Here is an example of their expensive marketing, with some improvements (added to the photo, of course - we are not leftists who destroy other people's property!)
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posted on
07/19/2005 5:59:51 PM PDT
by
FraudFactor.com
(Support redistricting reform to end gerrymandering and achieve more honest and responsive government)
To: bnelson44
IMDB is showing a gross of 192 million for War of the Worlds as of the July 15 week. Is 449 million a world wide gross?
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posted on
07/19/2005 6:02:01 PM PDT
by
xp38
To: FraudFactor.com
One explicit anti-gun scene involves the shotgun-wielding survivalist. The other is the scene involving handguns where the car that Tom Cruise stole is stolen from him. I saw the movie, have read the book and love the 1953 version of the movie. I disagree that the scenes you have described are "anti gun". I took the scene with the survivalist to show that often times violence is the only way to assure survival. I did not see it as anti gun. As for the car scene, it said to me, don't go into a hostile environment with a lack of sufficient firepower.
I believe that I am as sensitive to Leftist propoganda as the next and did not find the movie as anti military. The US fighting forces were shown to be doing their job, fighting with great bravery against overwhelming odds. The reason their weapons were no good against the invaders is central to the theme of the book and the 1953 movie.
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posted on
07/19/2005 6:04:37 PM PDT
by
Lawgvr1955
(Never draw to an inside straight.)
To: xp38
A Tomahawk Cruise missile that veered off course?

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posted on
07/19/2005 6:04:37 PM PDT
by
FraudFactor.com
(Support redistricting reform to end gerrymandering and achieve more honest and responsive government)
To: xp38
"Is 449 million a world wide gross?"
yes
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posted on
07/19/2005 6:09:54 PM PDT
by
bnelson44
(Proud parent of a tanker!)
To: FraudFactor.com
The Islamic world thinks we are decadent and that's Hollywood's fault in large measure. Just another reason NOT to spend my entertainment dollars on Hollywood and it's ANTI-AMERICAN majority.
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posted on
07/19/2005 6:12:09 PM PDT
by
Doctor Raoul
(Support Our Troops, Spit On A Liberal Reporter)
To: bnelson44
Haven't seen the movie, but one review described how the alien whatevers were blowing buildings and occupants to smitherines at random, then, when the liberal shows up, they start going door to door. What does that signify?
To: FraudFactor.com
did you think it was a bad movie?
i am a movie buff and was dying to go see it, but decided not to for a number of reasons, including the facts that i 1) despise tom cruise 2) despise scientology 3) did not want to relive 9/11 4) caught wind of this anti-American bias 5) did not want to see scads of people squished 6) felt the anxiety of seeing it would depress me for days.
i see it dropped to 4th place last weekend.
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posted on
07/19/2005 6:16:39 PM PDT
by
wildwood
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