My car in college:
But mine was a wierd pea green with a black landau roof (looked like Frankenstein on wheels)
Posted on 07/11/2005 7:54:25 AM PDT by franksolich
For those watching the DUmmie "William Pitt" this past week was surely a wondrous one, full of explosive fireworks, on the heels of several weeks of utter silence on this subject from the DUmmie "William Pitt."
It appears the DUmmie "William Pitt" finally read what had been said about him.....about four weeks too late.
The guy is hurt, angry, insulted, and it showed.
This is reminescent of a similar event about nine weeks ago, when the acolytes of Andrew Stephenson finally discovered the DUmmie FUnnies, and were alas for them three weeks too late.
One suspects that during his weeks of silence on the matter, the DUmmie "William Pitt" had been ignoring the DUmmie FUnnies, the DUmmie Alert!s, and conservativeunderground, voluntarily unaware that such places were commenting upon his silence.
This has always mystified--and sometimes amused--me, this propensity of some segments in our society to ignore the "political opposition" as if it did not exist, or did not count.
It should be no wonder they keep losing elections.
Okay, so I am a Republican and a conservative, and hang around a great deal on Republican and conservative web-sites.....but I hang around a lot more on Democratic and liberal web-sites, to see what is going on, on the other side of the aisle.
Many people (of all political stripes) tend to hang around those whose values and perceptions match their own, for affirmation of those values and perceptions; by being along with like-thinking people, they feel strengthened, reinforced.
But a truly confident person has no need for "team support;" strong enough in his values and confident of his perceptions, he feels utterly unthreatened scouting around for values and perceptions different from his own.
Perhaps the DUmmie "William Pitt" is unsure and shaky in his own political convictions, and so as to reinforce them, hangs around with his own crowd, fearful of looking into what another crowd is doing or saying, lest his political convictions get shattered.
Which is no sign of a person confident about himself.
And it has obvious disadvantages, not looking at what "other side" is saying or doing.
When the DUmmiette "sfexpat2000" started the fund-raiser the afternoon of April 28, 2005, she should have posted her solicitation in DUmmieland, and immediately parked herself in front of the DUmmie FUnnies, to see what was being said about the matter, from the other side. If she had done that, the acolytes of Andrew Stephenson would have been aware of their missteps, their contradicitons, their omissions, in time to correct such things.
But no, instead, the DUmmiette "sfexpat2000" hung around her own crowd, in the comfortable cocoon of DUmmieland, voluntarily unaware of the furor outside, and the acolytes of Andrew Stephenson were three weeks--three weeks!--three weeks!--three weeks!--too late in seeing what the DUmmie FUnnies were saying about the matter, after which it was far too late to correct matters.
Such behavior--not looking to see what is going on in the great big wide world outside--I had compared with four affluent old dowagers (and remember, with only one exception, the acolytes of Andrew Stephenson are not young) gathering for their Wednesday afternoon bridge game, in an affluent living room with large picture-windows on all four sides.
While the rich old ladies gab and gossip around the card-table, in that living room with large windows all around, a tornado suddenly sweeps though.....and they indignantly wonder what had hit them.
The situation of the DUmmie "William Pitt" is more analogous to that of a post-office clerk in Germany the spring of 1945 (this is a true story, told me a long time ago by a British army veteran who had actually seen the sight); the guy so meticulous, so scrupulous in his duties, that he was unaware of the wider world outside.
While the post-office clerk was noting the number of staples, sheets of paper, various denominations of postage stamps, the metal and paper contents of the till, the British army swept through his town; much destruction, shooting, explosions, buildings falling down.
But the post-office clerk was so diligent in his tasks that he remained oblivious, utterly ignorant, of the noise and tumult and fire and smoke outside his front window, until he had finished accounting for the final pencil-stub and paper-clip.
Only then did he look up, look outside the windows upon his destroyed village, and in stunned shock and awe, stuttered, "What happened?"
Yeah, Pitt has some cred at DU, and he says "I want some answers dammit," claims he gets them and then moves on and he's a good friend to Stephenson who never held up the works. People at FR ask the same questions, get no answers, and having no cred with liberals couldn't stop up the works if we'd wanted to, and somehow we're responsible? Yeah, right.
Never mind the fact that his timeline makes no bloody sense. They raised all the money before any DUers raised any questions. I hope his most recent rant promising to "get" the folks at CU and Scamdy is an empty threat, and i hope it for his sake, because if he opens that can of worms he'll end up in an orange jumpsuit.
Fred, my suggestion is to put the site in a holding pattern until the FBI investigation either leads to prosecution of the FOA or leads to nothing. Either that, or radically change the name and URL and make it a truth detector site to counter political lying by members of both sides. Your Scamdy.com comrades who are former DUers will be enthusiatic about trying to bust GOP pols. One thing's for sure, you can't continue to operate it as Scamdy.com...even if there was a scam, it sure isn't good taste to keep using the name.
The problem with making this about "bigger issues" is that it would be doing exactly what he wanted done..."Politicize my plight!"
The comment by the late Mr. Stephenson in that Ashcroft thread is pretty interesting...
Compare that thread with Freeper reaction to Bill Clinton's cardiac incident...or Elizabeth Edwards' cancer diagnosis.
Is it life threatening? that is all I want to know.
To borrow a DU-type expression: That's some pretty serious karma, dude.
According to the friends of Andy, he died at 9:27 PDT on 7 July. And yet...no obit in the Times or Post-Intelligencer. Could his family really be so broke they can't pay for an obit?
Did you notice that the Andy Thanks You website has a banner ad at the bottom for HospitalVictims.com? Yeah, thanks a bunch Johns Hopkins.
Yep, he threatens to forcibly eject Frank from planet Earth with a shotgun, but if PJ wonders if a gay man might have been HIV positive, it's Katie bar the door!
"I am truly tired of being acused of fraud. I am fighting for my life here. Today I was slam dunked by the hospital...by a freeper and by this person. I will be mor than happy to return his $10. I would rather do that...and keep my integrity than not to and have someone think I am a fraudster. There is only one person I can think of that might possibly be behind this campaign and I think we all know who that is. I am so tired of being sick. It is beginning to take a major toll on me. I have given every fiber of my being to fair auditable elections...I, as sick as I am went to Ohio this past weekend to give others some of the knowledge I have...at great detriment to my health. I cannot believe a low count poster could have stirred up so much shit around me."
Lucky for him someone came through with the necessary funds that were (supposedly) frozen by paypal:
"Thanks Scubed...who wrote a personal check to cover the shortfall ($10,800)which was held by paypal yesterday...I did not use the check...but scubed made sure I had it in case I needed it. It is still in my wallet...not the actions of a fraudster...A true con artist would have gone straight to the bank cashed the check and absconded with the cash. I guess I am a dumb fraudster, perhaps I was in a diabetic haze."
Good thing, too since he seems to have misunderstood the email from paypay (he posted it):
Dear Andy Stephenson, We recently received a claim from a buyer regarding merchandise that either was never received or did not match your original description. Please understand that until our investigation into this matter is complete, we may place a hold on funds associated with this transaction. For more information, please review our User Agreement.
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Details of Disputed Transaction
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Transaction Date: May 1, 2005
Transaction Amount: -$10.00 USD
Transaction ID: 37S63xxxxxxxxxxxx
Case Number: PP-081-xxx-xxx
Buyer's Name: XXXXXXXXX
Buyer's Email: XXXXXXXXXX
Cindie
Well I don't know what else to add. With this kind of focus, the truth will come out in time. Go get 'em Elliot.
According to what I know - That obit would be listed free. It would come from the vital stats, public health office. It would be automatic.
Clearly the vital stats, public health office must have overlooked Andy.
The little psuedo obit they had out was a paid one.
I should have added that:
I am certain it will be in the vital stats, public health office listings via the newspaper in the next few days.
Just not today:
http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/local/232143_deaths12.html
I was going to post in that direction. I have lived in 'tornado alley', (Missouri and Oklahoma), my entire life, except for a brief stint in West Tx, compliments of the US Army. In my 58 yrs here in 'tornado alley', I have been in three. My point is, if I had lived on the Gulf Coast for just 10 or so years, I would have been involved in many devastating hurricanes. I understand pepople liking to live in Florida for the climate, but the fact that we have built up the Florida Atlantic and Gulf Coastal areas as we have, and placed all of this developemnt in the path of the annual hurricanes makes me wonder why any insurance company would ever write policies in Florida.
I distinctly remember when Homestead Fl was struck badly, the national news was doing an interview with a woman who had lost her 'whole trailer park' to the hurricane (the park was on the beach), and lamenting that she had let her insurance lapse for lack of funds. Just amazed me, the same way we see the same people here in Mo complain every year after their house in some river flood plain gets flooded out.
My car in college:
But mine was a wierd pea green with a black landau roof (looked like Frankenstein on wheels)
I sincerely regret that Andy has died. May he rest in peace wherever he is.
I *do* think that this has gotten way out of hand. Some self-examination is in order here. This whole affair has not made FR look very good.
Welcome to FR and welcome to the People's Republic of Maryland (a.k.a. "the land of peasant living").
Time to serenade Pitt with "Some Recanted Evening."
BTW, I used to know somebody like Pitt. He kept recanting his decisions as soon as he made them. He would go to an ice cream shop and order chocolate ice cream then quickly recant and change the order to vanilla. Then he switched it once again to Neopolitan only to realize at the last moment that he really wanted coffee. Then when the server brought him a cup of coffee ice cream he asked if the coffee could be removed and replaced by strawberry. The guy was MADDENING in his constant retractions.
In any event, my thoughts and prayers go out to Andy's friends and family, for their loss.
That said, this whole affair still stinks on ice, and Andy's passing should not be considered license to ignore or gloss over the gross irregularities involved in the fundraising appeals and methods.
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