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Okay - this is obviously pretty wacky. But it does raise an interesting question about the reporting of deaths, since the announcements usually track the news stories reporting deaths on the ground. Is it true that DoD is not including the death of those evacuated with injuries in the total count? If this is not true, it needs to be debunked.

Any evidence on the topic would be helpful - including correlation of names on the official list with soldiers, sailors, or marines who have died in Germany or elsewhere.

1 posted on 06/16/2005 1:56:31 PM PDT by lugsoul
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I doubt its true, but so help me God if it is . . .

Alas, I'm not going to give it a second thought until I get more proof!


2 posted on 06/16/2005 1:58:24 PM PDT by ruiner
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Soldiers die in war. Why do you think it makes such a big difference between 1700 or 1791? Are you suggesting there is a conspiracy to underreport only 5% of the fatalities?


3 posted on 06/16/2005 2:00:07 PM PDT by econ_grad (The US Constitution presents no significant challenge to the government.)
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This is an obvious anti-Bush website. Just so ya know.


5 posted on 06/16/2005 2:02:33 PM PDT by xrp (Fox News Channel should rename itself the Missing Persons Network)
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I'd think it would be pretty odd if Ted Koppel was reading the names of every single American killed in Iraq and there were like 14,000 parents who didn't hear their kids name.


6 posted on 06/16/2005 2:02:38 PM PDT by Question Liberal Authority (It's the Anti-Americanism, Stupid!)
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It's not true. I've a son in Ramadi. I follow DOD list religiously. Those that die of wounds later are reported.
Nor did Bush order the casket pictures to be kept secret. That happened years before. And I am no Bush fan.


7 posted on 06/16/2005 2:03:50 PM PDT by JeeperFreeper
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Liberal propaganda. Ignore it.


8 posted on 06/16/2005 2:03:55 PM PDT by Right_at_RiceU (You don't need a gun to kill hippies, just soap or work.)
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I wouldn't be surprised if the total dead is higher. And the seriously wounded is in the thousands..... we are stupid if we expect to replay vietnam exactly and are waiting for victory.

If you want victory you have to fight like WW2. We are Naming this thing.

There is NO reason we should allow Syria to kill our troops without even lifting a finger - DO YOU HEAR ME mR. BUSH!


10 posted on 06/16/2005 2:04:05 PM PDT by TomasUSMC (FIGHT LIKE WW2, FINISH LIKE WW2. FIGHT LIKE NAM, FINISH LIKE NAM.)
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Iraqi civilian casualties are never reported but International Red Cross, Red Crescent and UN figures indicate that as of 1 January 2005, the numbers are just under 100,000.

That's not true (if "casualties" means "deaths"), so presumably the rest is equally dubious.

14 posted on 06/16/2005 2:04:59 PM PDT by untenured (http://futureuncertain.blogspot.com)
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Where did you get this dumb story?


16 posted on 06/16/2005 2:05:26 PM PDT by jveritas (The Left cannot win a national election ever again.)
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Moderator please pull out this lie.


18 posted on 06/16/2005 2:06:06 PM PDT by jveritas (The Left cannot win a national election ever again.)
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I would wonder how the government was keeping the families of those dead soldiers silent.


21 posted on 06/16/2005 2:06:38 PM PDT by cripplecreek (I zot trolls for fun and profit.)
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Anyone who believes this nonsense or frequents this website needs Dick Durbin as a abuse counselor and Chappy Teddy as their AA sponsor.


24 posted on 06/16/2005 2:07:38 PM PDT by PISANO (We will not tire......We will not falter.......We will NOT FAIL!!! .........GW Bush [Oct 2001])
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Brian Herring aka Red Herring?


25 posted on 06/16/2005 2:07:57 PM PDT by Grampa Dave (The MSM has been a WMD, Weapon of Mass Disinformation for the Rats for at least 5 decades.)
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What a load of Bovine excrement
26 posted on 06/16/2005 2:08:17 PM PDT by MJY1288 ( By Comparison...."Dingy" Harry Reid makes Tom Daschle look like a Statesman)
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If you visit the DOD news you can view all deaths reported. It's really ridiculous to think that families would just overlook the fact that a loved one isn't reported if they received bad news. I can't believe this is even up for discussion. This sounds like it is coming right out of ANSWER's garbage or AW friendly sites.


27 posted on 06/16/2005 2:08:23 PM PDT by armymarinemom (My sons freed Iraqi and Afghanistan Honor Roll students.And we're unlikely to get a look into this t)
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Some of these numbers sound bizarre. I just don't think it would be possible to somehow "hide" 5,000 or more combat deaths as this author seems to indicate. It would be a simple research exercise to confirm these numbers.

Having said that, there is also no question in my mind that the U.S. government would lie through its teeth to its own citizens if it felt a need to do so. That's why the Founding Fathers envisioned a government that was very limited in size -- because governments are inherently corrupt and should never be trusted.

28 posted on 06/16/2005 2:08:25 PM PDT by Alberta's Child (I ain't got a dime, but what I got is mine. I ain't rich, but lord I'm free.)
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I'm trying on a new tagline. I think it fits.


29 posted on 06/16/2005 2:08:26 PM PDT by SmithL (There are a lot of people that hate Bush more than they hate terrorists)
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That’s a “high death rate”? I believe it is called a “war”. What would Brian Herring have thought of some of the operations in Viet Nam, or Korea, or WWII, or WWI, or …


32 posted on 06/16/2005 2:08:43 PM PDT by R. Scott (Humanity i love you because when you're hard up you pawn your Intelligence to buy a drink.)
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Okay - this is obviously pretty wacky. But it does raise an interesting question about the reporting of deaths, since the announcements usually track the news stories reporting deaths on the ground. Is it true that DoD is not including the death of those evacuated with injuries in the total count? If this is not true, it needs to be debunked.

The Pentagon may briefly delay publishing, but no, they are counted. At most, it is considered non-combat. But the AP who reports this stuff would probably have figured that kind of thing out already if it were true that the Pentagon doesn't report injuries in the total count. The MSM includes ANYTHING IT CAN FIND, even if it were friendly fire or a heli-crash. The premise is that its all Bush's fault!
33 posted on 06/16/2005 2:08:44 PM PDT by USAfearsnobody
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Is it true that DoD is not including the death of those evacuated with injuries in the total count?

People can look up the list, right? People who have families would surely note if their soldier who is in Iraq were reported dead to them but not on the list. i'm pretty sure that something like this would be caught within a few weeks if not days.

37 posted on 06/16/2005 2:12:16 PM PDT by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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