Posted on 06/16/2005 1:56:30 PM PDT by lugsoul
US Military Report: The High Death Rates exposed by Brian Harring
The Bush Butcher’s Bill: Officially, 40 US Military Deaths in Iraq from 1 through 11 May, 2005 – Official Total of 1,791 US Dead to date (and rising)
U.S. Military Personnel who died in German hospitals or en route to German hospitals have not previously been counted. They total about 6,210 as of 1 January, 2005. The ongoing, underreporting of the dead in Iraq, is not accurate. The DoD is deliberately reducing the figures. A review of many foreign news sites show that actual deaths are far higher than the newly reduced ones. Iraqi civilian casualties are never reported but International Red Cross, Red Crescent and UN figures indicate that as of 1 January 2005, the numbers are just under 100,000.
Note: There is excellent reason to believe that the Department of Defense is deliberately not reporting a significant number of the dead in Iraq. We have received copies of manifests from the MATS that show far more bodies shipped into Dover AFP than are reported officially. The educated rumor is that the actual death toll is in excess of 7,000. Given the officially acknowledged number of over 15,000 seriously wounded, this elevated death toll is far more realistic than the current 1,400+ now being officially published. When our research is complete, and watertight, we will publish the results along with the sources In addition to the evident falsification of the death rolls, at least 5,500 American military personnel have deserted, most in Ireland but more have escaped to Canada and other European countries, none of whom are inclined to cooperate with vengeful American authorities. (See TBR News of 18 February for full coverage on the mass desertions) This means that of the 158,000 U.S. military shipped to Iraq, 26,000 either deserted, were killed or seriously wounded. The DoD lists currently being very quietly circulated indicate almost 9,000 dead, over 16,000 seriously wounded* (See note below. This figure is now over 24,000 Ed) and a large number of suicides, forced hospitalization for ongoing drug usage and sales, murder of Iraqi civilians and fellow soldiers , rapes, courts martial and so on –
Because I cannot publish the DoD pdf file in this country (no one has said anything about it being published outside the country) I am working up a specific overview for posting and my lawyer has made the following suggestion for me. I think it’s good and it certainly is legal.
I have a copy of the official DoD casualty list. I am alphabetizing it with the reported date of death following. TBR will post this list in sections and when this is circulated widely by veteran groups and other concerned sites, if people who do not see their loved one’s names, are requested to inform their Congressman, their local paper, us and other concerned people as soon as possible.
The government gets away with these huge lies because they claim, falsely, that only soldiers actually killed on the ground in Iraq are reported. The dying and critically wounded are listed as en route to military hospitals outside of the country and not reported on the daily postings. Anyone who dies just as the transport takes off from the Baghdad airport is not listed and neither are those who die in the US military hospitals. Their families are certainly notified that their son, husband, brother or lover was dead and the bodies, or what is left of them (refrigeration is very bad in Iraq what with constant power outages) are shipped home, to Dover AFB. You ought to realize that President Bush personally ordered that no pictures be taken of the coffined and flag-draped dead under any circumstances. He claims that this is to comfort the bereaved relatives but is designed to keep the huge number of arriving bodies secret. Any civilian, or military personnel, taking pictures will be jailed at once and prosecuted. Bush has never attended any kind of a memorial service for his dead soldiers and never will. He is terrified some parent might curse him in front of the press or, worse, attack him. As Bush is a coward and in denial, this is not a surprise.
This listing program is about finished and we will start publishing in the very near future so act accordingly. If there is an actual variance of, say, 10 names, that is acceptable. 50 would indicate sloppiness and anything over 100 a positive sign of lying.
*The latest on the wounded: “Landstuhl Regional Medical Center in Germany, is a 150-bed hospital that's already seen over 24,000 wounded military patients from Iraq and Afghanistan since the commencement of hostilities “. Knight Ridder Newspapers June 6, 2005 (Note: The Pentagon refuses to publish accurate lists of any wounded. Ed)
I would wonder how the government was keeping the families of those dead soldiers silent.
Obviously. And some such sites sometimes say things that are true, just as some pro- sites sometimes say things that are false. My only question is the specific issue of the tally and who is included.
If they didn't have an official listing of all names in the official number, there would be nothing to keep silent about.
Anyone who believes this nonsense or frequents this website needs Dick Durbin as a abuse counselor and Chappy Teddy as their AA sponsor.
Brian Herring aka Red Herring?
If you visit the DOD news you can view all deaths reported. It's really ridiculous to think that families would just overlook the fact that a loved one isn't reported if they received bad news. I can't believe this is even up for discussion. This sounds like it is coming right out of ANSWER's garbage or AW friendly sites.
Having said that, there is also no question in my mind that the U.S. government would lie through its teeth to its own citizens if it felt a need to do so. That's why the Founding Fathers envisioned a government that was very limited in size -- because governments are inherently corrupt and should never be trusted.
I'm trying on a new tagline. I think it fits.
A blog link, of course.
Sigh -
More lies, damned lies, and statistics
That’s a “high death rate”? I believe it is called a “war”. What would Brian Herring have thought of some of the operations in Viet Nam, or Korea, or WWII, or WWI, or …
Why pull it if it is easily debunked? That's exactly what I proposed in my initial comment
Why post it if it is easily debunked?
People can look up the list, right? People who have families would surely note if their soldier who is in Iraq were reported dead to them but not on the list. i'm pretty sure that something like this would be caught within a few weeks if not days.
Good question. I could spend all day every day posting easily debunked stuff from DU, but that would waste my time, your time, and Jim's server space.
Dear T, You are exactly right.
My son is a grunt in 1/5 Marines. If I told you about the rules of engagment and how these brave Marines, Corpsmen and Soldiers are hamstrung by orders and policies from Hackworth's "perfumed princes" in Washington and Baghdad, you would be outraged. ( Frankly, I don't my son getting in trouble so I'll not tell about specific instances.). Americans are dying today and tommorrow because they are not allowed to take the fight to those killing them.
Where's the list?
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