Posted on 06/16/2005 1:56:30 PM PDT by lugsoul
US Military Report: The High Death Rates exposed by Brian Harring
The Bush Butcher’s Bill: Officially, 40 US Military Deaths in Iraq from 1 through 11 May, 2005 – Official Total of 1,791 US Dead to date (and rising)
U.S. Military Personnel who died in German hospitals or en route to German hospitals have not previously been counted. They total about 6,210 as of 1 January, 2005. The ongoing, underreporting of the dead in Iraq, is not accurate. The DoD is deliberately reducing the figures. A review of many foreign news sites show that actual deaths are far higher than the newly reduced ones. Iraqi civilian casualties are never reported but International Red Cross, Red Crescent and UN figures indicate that as of 1 January 2005, the numbers are just under 100,000.
Note: There is excellent reason to believe that the Department of Defense is deliberately not reporting a significant number of the dead in Iraq. We have received copies of manifests from the MATS that show far more bodies shipped into Dover AFP than are reported officially. The educated rumor is that the actual death toll is in excess of 7,000. Given the officially acknowledged number of over 15,000 seriously wounded, this elevated death toll is far more realistic than the current 1,400+ now being officially published. When our research is complete, and watertight, we will publish the results along with the sources In addition to the evident falsification of the death rolls, at least 5,500 American military personnel have deserted, most in Ireland but more have escaped to Canada and other European countries, none of whom are inclined to cooperate with vengeful American authorities. (See TBR News of 18 February for full coverage on the mass desertions) This means that of the 158,000 U.S. military shipped to Iraq, 26,000 either deserted, were killed or seriously wounded. The DoD lists currently being very quietly circulated indicate almost 9,000 dead, over 16,000 seriously wounded* (See note below. This figure is now over 24,000 Ed) and a large number of suicides, forced hospitalization for ongoing drug usage and sales, murder of Iraqi civilians and fellow soldiers , rapes, courts martial and so on –
Because I cannot publish the DoD pdf file in this country (no one has said anything about it being published outside the country) I am working up a specific overview for posting and my lawyer has made the following suggestion for me. I think it’s good and it certainly is legal.
I have a copy of the official DoD casualty list. I am alphabetizing it with the reported date of death following. TBR will post this list in sections and when this is circulated widely by veteran groups and other concerned sites, if people who do not see their loved one’s names, are requested to inform their Congressman, their local paper, us and other concerned people as soon as possible.
The government gets away with these huge lies because they claim, falsely, that only soldiers actually killed on the ground in Iraq are reported. The dying and critically wounded are listed as en route to military hospitals outside of the country and not reported on the daily postings. Anyone who dies just as the transport takes off from the Baghdad airport is not listed and neither are those who die in the US military hospitals. Their families are certainly notified that their son, husband, brother or lover was dead and the bodies, or what is left of them (refrigeration is very bad in Iraq what with constant power outages) are shipped home, to Dover AFB. You ought to realize that President Bush personally ordered that no pictures be taken of the coffined and flag-draped dead under any circumstances. He claims that this is to comfort the bereaved relatives but is designed to keep the huge number of arriving bodies secret. Any civilian, or military personnel, taking pictures will be jailed at once and prosecuted. Bush has never attended any kind of a memorial service for his dead soldiers and never will. He is terrified some parent might curse him in front of the press or, worse, attack him. As Bush is a coward and in denial, this is not a surprise.
This listing program is about finished and we will start publishing in the very near future so act accordingly. If there is an actual variance of, say, 10 names, that is acceptable. 50 would indicate sloppiness and anything over 100 a positive sign of lying.
*The latest on the wounded: “Landstuhl Regional Medical Center in Germany, is a 150-bed hospital that's already seen over 24,000 wounded military patients from Iraq and Afghanistan since the commencement of hostilities “. Knight Ridder Newspapers June 6, 2005 (Note: The Pentagon refuses to publish accurate lists of any wounded. Ed)
Any evidence on the topic would be helpful - including correlation of names on the official list with soldiers, sailors, or marines who have died in Germany or elsewhere.
I doubt its true, but so help me God if it is . . .
Alas, I'm not going to give it a second thought until I get more proof!
Soldiers die in war. Why do you think it makes such a big difference between 1700 or 1791? Are you suggesting there is a conspiracy to underreport only 5% of the fatalities?
It is not true. Every Death is reported, even those who die in the hospital, which have been very few.I have a friend who works in the ICU at Lundstrum and they do a wonderful job of keeping our guys alive and able to recover.
This is an obvious anti-Bush website. Just so ya know.
I'd think it would be pretty odd if Ted Koppel was reading the names of every single American killed in Iraq and there were like 14,000 parents who didn't hear their kids name.
It's not true. I've a son in Ramadi. I follow DOD list religiously. Those that die of wounds later are reported.
Nor did Bush order the casket pictures to be kept secret. That happened years before. And I am no Bush fan.
Liberal propaganda. Ignore it.
...This means that of the 158,000 U.S. military shipped to Iraq, 26,000 either deserted, were killed or seriously wounded. The DoD lists currently being very quietly circulated indicate almost 9,000 dead, over 16,000 seriously wounded* (See note below. This figure is now over 24,000 Ed) and a large number of suicides, forced hospitalization for ongoing drug usage and sales, murder of Iraqi civilians ...
This is crap.
I wouldn't be surprised if the total dead is higher. And the seriously wounded is in the thousands..... we are stupid if we expect to replay vietnam exactly and are waiting for victory.
If you want victory you have to fight like WW2. We are Naming this thing.
There is NO reason we should allow Syria to kill our troops without even lifting a finger - DO YOU HEAR ME mR. BUSH!
That being said, if medevacs aren't included in the total, that would likely be more than 90 or so. We've had several thousand medevac'd from Iraq, and one could assume they are the serious cases. I doubt the fatality rate would be that low.
That's not true (if "casualties" means "deaths"), so presumably the rest is equally dubious.
The Army is not organized enough to keep this many deaths secret for this long. This is not a true statistic. We've lost the better part of 2,000 young men and women and we should not lose sight of that, but as you say, this is an anti-Bush website and appears to have little regard for the truth.
Thag
Where did you get this dumb story?
Moderator please pull out this lie.
Yeah, I just looked over it in more detail and it is clear that it is anti-Christian, anti-Bush, anti-conservative and anti-American.
Only read the headline. Stand corrected.
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