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From MEXICO CITY to ROME: Illegal immigration and the Vatican
RightConservative.com ^
| 05-29-05
| Robert Klein Engler
Posted on 05/29/2005 4:18:28 PM PDT by RightConservative
(CHICAGO--29 May '05) Lost amid all the reams of paper, stacks of videos and bites in e-space about President Fox's view of African-American workers is a more troublesome comment coming from an overlooked source.
CNN.com reports that "Even Cardinal Norberto Rivera Carrera, the archbishop of Mexico City, criticized U. S. immigration policy as ridiculous and defended Fox's comments, saying: "The declaration had nothing to do with racism. It is a reality in the United States that anyone can prove."
That's not the whole of Cardinal Carrera's comments about immigration. He also has criticized the United States for "xenophobic attitudes" toward Mexican immigrants, calling it inconsistent to promote international free trade but refuse to let people cross the border for the basic human right to work. "Just as the borders are open to merchandise, that is all the more reason that the borders should be open to the human being," said the Cardinal.
Why is the archbishop of Mexico City getting involved in the illegal immigration dispute between Mexico and the United States and defending President Fox and his remarks. Does this mean there is a line we can follow from the Vatican, through the barrios of Chicago, past the Arizona desert and Mexico's president Fox to the Cardinal?
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TOPICS: Government; Politics; Religion
KEYWORDS: aliens; bishops; carrera; catholicchurch; catholiclist; illegalimmigrants; illegalimmigration; immigration; immigrationlist; liberals; usccb
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To: RightConservative
Cardinal Carrera's statement and that of the Bishop's in the U.S. sound just like the Liberation Theologist's of the 1960's and 1970's. They have just transfered the Marxist philosophy across the border. Read Cardinal Ratzinger's comments about liberation theology and see if it does not apply with Carrera and other U.S. Bishop's regarding immigration.
http://www.christendom-awake.org/pages/ratzinger/liberationtheol.htm
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posted on
05/29/2005 4:40:14 PM PDT
by
Lobbyist
(Just doing a job an illegal alien can't do.)
To: RightConservative
Cardinal Carrera's statement and that of the Bishop's in the U.S. sound just like the Liberation Theologist's of the 1960's and 1970's. They have just transfered the Marxist philosophy across the border. Read Cardinal Ratzinger's comments about liberation theology and see if it does not apply with Carrera and other U.S. Bishop's regarding immigration.
http://www.christendom-awake.org/pages/ratzinger/liberationtheol.htm
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posted on
05/29/2005 4:41:22 PM PDT
by
Lobbyist
(Just doing a job an illegal alien can't do.)
To: Lobbyist
I'm sorry. This was posted twice. My face is red!
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posted on
05/29/2005 4:41:59 PM PDT
by
Lobbyist
(Just doing a job an illegal alien can't do.)
To: RightConservative
Although Cardinal Carrera is in favor of national unity when it comes to things Mexican, he seems not to be in favor of national unity when it comes to the U. S. protecting its borders. During the 1995 rebellion in Chiapas he made a plea for national unity and worried that Mexico might run the risk of coming apart, but when the U. S. decides on the national unity that comes with the enforcement of its immigration laws, he opposes such an effort.The Cardinal appears to be Vincente's shill.
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posted on
05/29/2005 4:43:10 PM PDT
by
afnamvet
(31st Fighter Wing Tuy Hoa AB RVN 68-69 "Return with Honor")
To: Lobbyist
"I'm sorry. This was posted twice. My face is red!"
No worries, it happens.
To: RightConservative
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posted on
05/29/2005 4:44:48 PM PDT
by
Lobbyist
(Just doing a job an illegal alien can't do.)
To: HiJinx
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posted on
05/29/2005 4:44:56 PM PDT
by
afnamvet
(31st Fighter Wing Tuy Hoa AB RVN 68-69 "Return with Honor")
To: 1_Inch_Group; 2sheep; 2Trievers; 3AngelaD; 3rdcanyon; 4.1O dana super trac pak; 4Freedom; ...

This attitude permeates the hierarchy of the Mexican government. We don't call 'em elites for nothing.
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posted on
05/29/2005 6:29:17 PM PDT
by
HiJinx
(~ www.ProudPatriots.org ~ Operation 4th of July ~)
To: Lobbyist
BUMP Liberation theology is a scourge growing in the Church from the Latin American countries, courtesy of the Marxists who permeate down there.
Not to mention the 'racist' comments coming out of Latin America after Ratzinger was elected Pope. Because it wasn't a Latin American elected, many spoke out against his heritage, and felt that he would not speak for the Latinos.
If I can dig up the thread, I'll post it.
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posted on
05/29/2005 6:40:12 PM PDT
by
kstewskis
("Lord, let me not be deceived..." ks)
To: dangus; Coleus
Do either of you two remember a thread awhile back, when Ratzinger was elected Pope....it mentioned how disappointed many Latin Americans were that a Latin American Pope wasn't elected (IIRC, they felt "disenfranchised")...especially in light of Ratzinger's (Benedict XVI's) anti Liberation Theology views?
Thanks in advance.
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posted on
05/29/2005 6:59:33 PM PDT
by
kstewskis
("Lord, let me not be deceived..." ks)
To: kstewskis; NYer; Salvation; narses; wagglebee
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posted on
05/29/2005 7:07:56 PM PDT
by
Coleus
(Roe v. Wade and Endangered Species Act both passed in 1973, Murder Babies/save trees, birds, algae)
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posted on
05/29/2005 7:10:59 PM PDT
by
Coleus
(Roe v. Wade and Endangered Species Act both passed in 1973, Murder Babies/save trees, birds, algae)
To: RightConservative
refuse to let people cross the border for the basic human right to work Hasn't anyone told the Cardinal that at least 14 million Mexicans have already crossed the border, that they're taking American jobs, and that only a very few have been deported? Bad choice of words by the Cardinal.
To: RightConservative
That's not the whole of Cardinal Carrera's comments about immigration. He also has criticized the United States for "xenophobic attitudes" toward Mexican immigrants, calling it inconsistent to promote international free trade but refuse to let people cross the border for the basic human right to work.Huh? How is it that Americans aren't guaranteed a job but illegal mexicans are according to this clown? Man, I am glad I don't throw money into the plate at a Catholic church anymore.
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05/29/2005 8:28:03 PM PDT
by
raybbr
To: RightConservative
Mexico, unfortunately can only bring us down. This is not a simbianic relationship, but a parasitic relationship. Mexico will eventually along with all the other third world partners bring down the U.S. Our enemies want only to bring the U.S. to it's knees. Having us stripped of our ability to lead the world. Instead of advancing, we are turning into simply put Welfare state paying for deadwood that would otherwise fail to exist.
To: HiJinx
Protect our borders and coastlines from all foreign invaders!
Be Ever Vigilant!
Minutemen Patriots ~ Bump!
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posted on
05/30/2005 7:43:00 AM PDT
by
blackie
(Be Well~Be Armed~Be Safe~Molon Labe!)
To: RightConservative
"
"Just as the borders are open to merchandise, that is all the more reason that the borders should be open to the human being," said the Cardinal."
Comparing people to merchandise.
" 2Pe 2:3 And through covetousness shall they with feigned words make merchandise of you: whose judgment now of a long time lingereth not, and their damnation slumbereth not"
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posted on
05/30/2005 9:49:47 AM PDT
by
monkeywrench
(http://ciudadano.presidencia.gob.mx/peticion/peticion.htm -Tell Vicente)
To: 2ndMostConservativeBrdMember; afraidfortherepublic; Alas; al_c; american colleen; annalex; ...
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posted on
06/01/2005 7:31:18 PM PDT
by
Coleus
(Roe v. Wade and Endangered Species Act both passed in 1973, Murder Babies/save trees, birds, algae)
To: kstewskis; Coleus
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posted on
06/01/2005 7:47:06 PM PDT
by
fatima
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