Posted on 05/13/2005 7:36:25 AM PDT by PJ-Comix
It looks like William Rivers (Pied Piper) Pitt is doing a lot of worrying that the scam perpetrated by Andy Stephenson is going to explode in his face. Pity Poor Pathetic Pied Piper Pitt (had to get in at least one allitertation) for he hasnt slept since April as you can see in this Pitt authored DUmmie THREAD titled, I could use a little help here. Yeah, Pitt, you could actually use a LOT of help WHEN the AndyScam blows up in such a way that even the incredibly gullible DUmmies realize that Andy Stephenson has been scamming them just as cold-bloodedly as his former mentor, Bev Harris. A constant theme right now in DUmmieland is that they just KNOW that Andy is on the up and up BECAUSE Pied Piper Pitt told them so. I hate to tell you this DUmmies but Pied Piper Pitt has ALSO been having doubts about the DUmmies as have been documented in the Free Republic discussion forum of the previous DUFU edition titled, About the Andy Stephenson situation---Skinner. Oh, and speaking of Skinner, havent the DUmmies noticed that he has been MIA since issuing his doubts about Stephenson a few days ago? Skinner is less than an hour from Baltimore but he has yet to make the short trip over there to verify Andys fraudulent story. It is The Silence of the Scams. So let us now join Pied Piper Pitt in his state of complete sleeplessness. Somehow I think Pitt will be greeting the sun for many, many mornings to come. As usual the insomniac rantings of Pitt and his DUmmie followers are in Bolshevik Red while the commentary of your humble correspondent, who enjoyed a refreshing night of deep sleep, is in the [brackets]:
I could use a little help here
[You sure do, Pied Piper Pitt, especially after the DUmmies form a lynch mob to go after you when even those dopes realize FOR SURE that they have been scammed by Andy Stephenson, thanks in large part to you vouching for Andys honesty.]
I haven't been able to sleep for about two weeks. I start to drop off, and maybe actually sleep for about 20 minutes, before popping awake. Last night, for about the fifteenth day in a row, I saw the sun come up against my will. This has started to affect my stomach, which makes sleeping harder. I have tried exercise to wear myself out, and have managed to badly strain a muscle in my back.
[Your back will hurt even more after the DUmmies start angrily beating on it while cursing you for enabling the AndyScam.]
So, to recap: No sleep since April, rotten stomach, torn up back. I've reached that insomnia point where I am psyching myself out; I got no sleep the night before last, spent yesterday writing a PDA action alert and a 30-minute speech transcript, drove two hours to do the speech, gave the speech, did a three-hour Q&A, talked to people for another hour, drove two more hours to get home, and by the time I got back here I was literally quivering with exhaustion.
[So, to recap: You are worried sick about what will happen to you after Andy Stephenson is proven to be a complete FRAUD even to the satisfaction of the incredibly gullible DUmmie suckers.]
But I laid awake until 6:37am (I remember looking at the clock), popped awake an 8, 9, 10 before finally giving up and getting up at 11. I can barely see straight right now, my stomach feels like it has snakes in it, my back is killing me so I can't exercise...and I know for a stone fact that I won't be able to sleep again. Tried a nap an hour or so ago. Came thiiiiiiiis close to dropping of and then popped awake.
[3:11 AM: Worried sick about the backlash when Andys scam is finally proven.
3:12 AM: Will they toss me out of Dummieland?
3:13 AM: Will my speaking engagements be cancelled?
3:14 AM: Maybe I could change my identity.
3:15 AM: DAMN YOU TO HELL, Andy, for suckering me into being your lousy cheerleader!!!
3:16 AM: Is it 3:17 AM yet?]
Any ideas? I've already heard about taking mela-whatever, but that stuff gave my mother splitting headaches when she tried it. I have drastically cut back on caffiene. Any other suggestions would be appreciated. I've reached that violently, violently, violently frustrated stage of insomnia where sleep is a guaranteed impossibility, and if a routine like yesterday's (while on no sleep) can't get it done, I am at a total loss.
[Confession is good for the soul. And now let us read the hilarious advice on insomnia cures from your fellow DUmmies, Pitt.]
scotch. start about 3pm. you'll be out by 9
[Thunderbird. Start about 3 PM. Youll be homeless by 9.]
Tried it. I managed to make myself unconscious, but that isn't sleep. Woke up worse off the next day. Tried it again a few days later, and all that happened was I was drunk and wide awake.
[Pied Piper Pitt---The wide awake drunk. Thats what happens when you fall such obvious scams that Andy perpetrates.]
sex?
[Unfortunately Andy can no longer be located.]
Move the clock...for one thing. Looking at that thing with the blinking : all night can be horrifying.
[If Pitt moves his clock all it will mean is that he will have to keep walking over to it every 5 minutes to check to see if he got at least a half hour of sleep.]
yes, sex works remember, only in fundie land is a monogamous partner of the opposite gender who desires to become pregnant is a requirement for "sex."
[Only in DUmmieland does it not matter what gender or species your sex partner is.]
Will: see a doctor. Insomnia is a bitch, although I only get it maybe once or twice a month.
[Pitt needs to see a shrink doctor. See Pitt lying on the shrinks couch? Let us see what the shrink is writing on his note pad: Just plain NUTS!!!]
This sounds like a case for sleeping pills though I ordinarily wouldn't recommend them.
[NOT a good idea. Pitt would be tempted to swallow the whole bottle after the AndyScam blows up in DUmmieland.]
Benadryl. But don't take it every night, as you can become addicted (as per my physician husband).
[Methinks Pitt would become addicted the first night after desperately popping pill after pill of those Bennys.]
Eat lots of turkey! Turkey has natural sleep inducers in it.
[And if that doesnt work, have someone take a frozen turkey and slam it on Pitts head to knock him out.]
My problem is that I have bad physical reactions to anti-histamine stuff. I had raging bad allergies as a kid, and was always loaded up on the stuff. After a few years it just messed me up, and still does whenever I touch it.
[I can sympathize, Pitt. Im allergic to wool so Ive had to cross sheep off my date list. Such are the sacrifices Ive had to make.]
Tonight I will do turkey, warm milk and the tub
[Youre going to do turkey in a tub filled with warm milk, Pitt? You really ARE kinky!]
Yes - I like Tylenol PM myself.
[I once tried to commit suicide by taking a cyanide pill. Unfortunately some sick bastard tampered with the cyanide pill bottle and I took a Tylenol that he inserted instead. Im suing!!!]
empty your mind, grasshopper...
[ be just like your fellow DUmmies, cricket ]
I don't really know any tricks to get to sleep but one thing I discovered is that it makes no sense to just lay there willing yourself to do it - the more you try, the less likely it is that it will happen. So when I couldn't sleep, I'd get up. I'd tidy the house, I'd do laundry, I'd go for a walk, I'd read, I'd write, I'd work. Eventually, I'd get very, very tired and I'd lay down again. If I didn't get to sleep within a reasonable time, I'd get up again.
[Good idea Hey Pitt! My pad needs cleaning and after that you can do my laundry.]
stop doing crystal meth that's what I had to do.
[speed_addiction is that you?]
The back thing is my own fault. I've been beating the shit out of myself on my weight bench, way overdoing it to try and get sleepy. A muscle in my shoulderblade area finally got tired of it and told me to f*ck myself.
[And after the AndyScam scandal explodes, Pitt, your fellow DUmmies will be telling you the same thing as your shoulderblade muscle told you.]
Definitely see a doctor...there might be a physiological reason you're having trouble sleeping.
[Pitts problem is ALL mental.]
Will, I'm not a doctor, but I am going to go ahead and give you medical advice anyway. Your body is telling you to take a break.
[Yes, good advice. Take a break, Pitt, on a Costa Rica getaway with Andy Stephenson. Dont worry about expenses. Andy has $50,000 to blow.]
Otherwise, until you see an internist, a bit of turkey, milk and a warm bath. Then find something boring, yet educational, to read.
[Maybe not educational but Pitts own writings should do the trick.]
A friend of mine who went through a divorce said she would drop her jaw down as you would right before you fall asleep and then force herself to COUNT SHEEP. It actually worked for her.
[It wont work for me. I told you before that Im allergic to wool.]
One word solution... PAMPER!
[One word solution PAMPERS!]
White noise (I have a CD of very, very faint/distand thunderstorms and rain, and it's coma-inducing).
[White noise (I have a CD of very, very faint Pitt speeches, and its coma-inducing).]
Breathe thru your eyes ... Bull Durham
[Breath thru your butt Andy Stephenson.]
Watch some mindless TV.
[Keith Olbermann.]
Ambien is habit forming and every person is different. So telling someone to ignore legitimate and documented side effects and product warnings is not particularly sound advice, wouldn't you agree?
[WARNING: Side effects of Ambien may inlude nausea, diarrhea attacks, dizziness, urges to support left wing loony causes, and the total loss of any ability to discern obvious scams.]
dude...seriously...smoke up. If I need to be asleep, pot is my friend to a nice, happy, and deep sleep.
[Puff the magic dragon down by the sea!]
First of all, sleep is over-rated.
[Sleep? Who needs it!]
You need to start "shutting down" very gradually.
[After the DUmmies finally wake up to the AndyScam, they will be shutting down Pitt very rapidly.]
Try to figure out what caused this abnormal sleep cycle to begin in the first place and address that issue.
[I dont believe that Pitt thinking about how he has become Andy Stephensons lead cheerleader in Dummieland is going to help him get any sleep.]
Go To An Acupuncturist ASAP.
[Perhaps the acupuncturist can anesthetize those brain cells containing all memories about Andy.]
want something natural? try acupuncture- & I know where to get it cheap in the south end
[I dont know about Pitt but Andy certainly would love to be acupunctured in the south end.]
You really should go to a doctor for a sleep evaluation. This may include keeping a diary for a week or so
[May 13: WHAT? WHAT? WHAT will I do when the DUmmies rise up against me when the AndyScam breaks?
May 15: Need to leave the country. PRONTO!
May 16: Quick flight down to Costa Rica.
May 20: Slight gender preference modification but the honeymoon with Andy is just dreamy!]
Cancel your appointments. Don't listen to TV or radio. Turn off your cell phone. Rent some funny movies.
[Flim Flam Man. The Sting.]
The first sentence under findings A 1.8 by 2.4 cm hypodense mass in the uncinate process.
Nice timeline! It really puts it into perspective!....and still looks fishy as he**! Oh, he's goin' down, just a question of when!
Skinner ADMIN (1000+ posts) Sat May-14-05 12:51 PM Original message Now that things seem to have calmed down a little bit.....we think we should give you our perspective on recent events.
The last couple days have been rough. In fact, the whole week has been stressful for many of us. There has been a lot going on here in the Lounge, and in the other forums, and I think we're probably all emotionally drained right now. I know I am.
In the General Discussion forum, we've all been worrying about Andy Stephenson. There were some very unfortunate allegations which I won't repeat here. I hope you'll agree that we dealt with the challenge effectively, and provided some much-needed stability and leadership.
In the General Discussion: Politics forum, we have been hosting discussions in an effort to build trust among entrenched partisans. We have a long way to go in there, but I think we're on the right track, and I'm proud of what we're trying to do.
Obviously, our stewardship of the Lounge has not been quite so successful this week. I think that certain situations could have been handled more delicately. But I want to be clear: We were fully justified in the choices we made, and we stand by them. We made some miscalculations in the implementation, but the actions themselves were correct. We do not expect everyone to agree with us. We know that being in charge means that we frequently have to do things that people do not like. We still make these choices, even though we know when they are likely to cause a shit storm on the website.
Understandably, some of you want a public accounting. You want us to lay it all out for the world, so you can all decide whether our actions were justified or not. I am sorry, but on a huge website like this, things cannot possibly work this way. Allowing the members to debate and second guess and sign-off on everything we do would ensure that nothing ever gets done.
What you need to understand is this: We do not take big decisions lightly. We consider *all sides* of every situation we face. We have a group of smart and fair moderators, who provide their advice and consent on all the big stuff we do. And most of the mods are not shy about sharing their opinions, even if those opinions are unpopular. They are our sounding board, and sometimes they are our backbone. And unlike all of you, they do know the whole story. They see all the deleted posts, all the alerts, all the snarky emails and private messages to admin, and only they see the entire context of everyone's behavior. It is their job to look at the whole picture, and it is their responsibility to be fair. Right now, everything they are telling me indicates that they are firm and united in their support.
If you do not have the guts to shut off someone you genuinely like, then you have no business being an administrator or moderator of a website like this. If you do not have the self-control and fairness to let someone remain a member of this website, even if you personally cannot stand that person, then you have no business being an administrator or moderator of a website like this. And if you do not have the guts to stick to your guns, even as a bunch of people rip you a new one and demand satisfaction, then you have no business being an administrator or moderator of a website like this.
We understand why people are upset. We really do. We are doing the best that we can to respect that, and to avoid making any poorly-considered ultimatums or threats that could escalate the situation. We have the sense to know if we did do such a thing there would likely be a bloodbath. The group dynamic in the Lounge right now is such that any ultimatum I made would be an open invitation for martyrdom. I'm sure there are dozens of people who would jump at the chance. We are not foolish. We have no desire to escalate.
But we also quietly, humbly, and steadfastly decline to undo the actions we have taken. They were done in good faith. A few months back we offered you all the opportunity to pass the reigns [sic] of moderation to the membership, and the overwhelming majority of you declined.
Believe me, I would give anything to be relieved of the burden of responsibility. But you chose to keep that responsibility with me, and I am exercising it in the only way I know how.
This website is not perfect, and the way we run it is not perfect. We know as well as anyone here our own problems and shortcomings. There will be plenty of opportunity for us to discuss changes that you all think are necessary. Now that the ATA forum is gone, the admins have felt that we can actually lighten up on some of the rules and enforcement. We've been having that discussion with the moderators, and we have been dropping occasional hints to the members. We fully intend to open the discussion up to the general DU membership. We also intend to facilitate a discussion about group dynamics and feelings of exclusion in the DU Lounge. If the flood of emails and private messages are to be believed, there are plenty of people here who do not feel welcome here. I would not characterize any of these messages as coming from problem people. When you roll your eyes and ridicule those concerns, you are only serving to alienate them even more.
I have said my piece. The moderators are still on duty, but now I'm going to get off of DU for the weekend. I suggest that many of you do the same. Go for a walk. Smell the flowers. Hug your kids. If you stay on DU, I hope you will feel free to share your thoughts in this thread. If you still need to rant, I would prefer you to do it in my other thread, which is still open.
Thank you for listening.SkinnerDU Admin
Okay, so the Grand DUmmie "Skinner" is emotionally-drained and going out for a walk to sniff the flowers.....and apparently not in Baltimore.
Don't forget this..he started asking for money in Feb.
2/11/05 - 07:29 PM
Post #1
Andy Stephenson, also known as God-bush-n-Cheney, has caught Hepatitis A. He is on bedrest for at least six weeks. I talked to him on the phone last week when he was in D.C. He thought he had food poisioning but couldn't afford to go to the doctors. He is home now.
Andy has given his heart and soul to our mission. He got seriously used by Bev Harris....she has not paid him yet.
Anyways, he needs our financial support. Here is a link to the paypal: It was set-up on DU.
http://tinyurl.com/6jyf4
Andy posts under the name "GodBushNCheney"--Ed.
I believe that that photo taken in Ohio is of Andy and someone else. I had posted that I thought it was Termite (from memory I was sure it was him)
But I was corrected that it was some other DUmmie. Sorry for the confusion.
Maybe fundraising is the true disease here. Like alcoholics and drug addicts, this behavior may be addictive.
He didn't clear Andy either.
I think the Grand DUmmie "Skinner" is afraid to go to Baltimore, because rather than finding a can of worms, he knows he will probably find a whole DUmpster full of worms.
Yes. I am going to go watch the race wearing one of those. Every time Jeff Gordon leads a lap I am going to stick the end of it into an electrical socket.
So depending on how the race goes, I will either check back with you guys, or IIIII wwwoonn'ttt.
See ya after a couple of cold ones and a Jamie McMurray win!
Skinner: "blah, blah, blah....."!
Go Jamie!!!!!!!
Get him Speed...
Frank, I know the DU Gestapo is busting down doors, searching basements and attics, leaving no stone unturned looking for you since this broke.
They searched likewise for me and I was hiding in plain site, as pointman for the stormtroopers!
Who talks like that? The best translation I can come with...it means that "we can't tell you the truth. You can't handle the truth."
If you guys haven't seen this, you better go check it out!
Thanks, franksolich, for the update. I name YOU the prime person who rightly called it!
Man, oh, man.
I know!! Make sure to thank KJC1 for it! It's turning out quite splendid!
The DU Lounge is almost it's own website. They rarely venture out from there. They really have a lot of contempt for the people in the General Discussion forums.
Yesterday Skinner mad the mistake of starting a thread and waving the mods off. They were not to delete or any posts or lock that thread. It became a free fire zone, DU Lounge against General Discussion. It got damned nasty!
DU Lounge is on the verge of a revolt and Skinner is trying his best to quell the brushfires that are threatening to break out of control at any moment.
If there was a time ripe for another "Night of the Long Knives" it is now!
We thank you for your service in investigations over there. Some of us follow it.
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