Posted on 04/13/2005 3:35:11 PM PDT by freepatriot32
Unless you're among the bean-sprout-sized minority of Americans who describe themselves as "vegans" (vegetarians who also won't touch milk, cheese, yogurt, butter, or even a dollop of honey), you may have been alarmed by the publicity surrounding an article appearing last month in the journal Pediatrics. The anti-milk piece -- written by activists from the PETA-affiliated Physicians Committee for Responsible Medicine (PCRM) -- concluded that feeding milk to children is unnecessary, and that there are better ways (kale, tofu, turnip greens, or spinach, for instance) for kids to get the calcium they need. In reaching this result, PCRM relied on only a few dozen of the nearly 1,000 available studies about milk and bone health, while ignoring the practical problem of getting children to eat the eight cups of cooked spinach required to replace the calcium in a small glass of milk. Does this attack on milk sound like the leading edge of an animal-rights campaign? It is.
Neal Barnard, co-author of the Pediatrics article, is PCRM's president. He's a non-practicing psychiatrist, not a pediatrician. Barnard is also president of the PETA Foundation ( click here to see its tax return, and scroll to page 25) -- the organization that owns PETA's real estate, issues its payroll checks, and funds its many overseas offices. This means Barnard is arguably one of the two most powerful people at PETA.
No wonder Neal Barnard's research claims that there is "no evidence to support the notion that milk is a preferred source of calcium." That's exactly what you'd expect PETA to say. The same PETA that believes a dairy cow's life is as valuable as that of any human being.
A Pediatrics editorial accompanying PCRM's study put things in a more constructive perspective:
The National Academy of Sciences [says] that the immediate goal of pediatric health care providers is still to achieve maximum peak bone mass in our adolescent patients. What is the best way to achieve this goal? A calcium intake of 1300 mg/day will cause no harm that we know of, and the National Academy of Sciences has set an upper limit of 2500 mg/day for this age group. The easiest way to achieve this level of intake is to consume dairy products. Another voice of reason came in 2001 from a "Special Committee" assigned by the USDA to evaluate PCRM's complaints against the popular "milk moustache" advertising campaign. According to the committee's findings of "scientific consensus":
[I]ncreased calcium intake, especially from dairy products, increases bone density in childhood and adolescence ... [C]ow milk consumption at currently recommended intakes is likely to be beneficial [for bone health at all stages of the life cycle." The coup de grace came in the form of Congressional testimony offered in 2003 by Creighton University medical professor Robert Heaney, a world-renowned expert on osteoporosis and bone health. There is ample evidence, Heaney told Congress, that "there are effectively no substitutes for dairy foods if we are to meet the nutritional needs of our school age children ... The arguments raised against the healthfulness of milk are scientifically groundless." Heaney continued:
I think it is useful to recognize the origin of the anti-milk campaign -- and it is literally a campaign. If one checks carefully, one finds that behind most of the stories is an organization called the People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals (PETA) and its sister organization, the Physicians Committee for Responsible Medicine (PCRM). These are animal rights organizations that oppose the use of any animal product -- leather, fur, meat, or milk. Despite being "outed" as a PETA affiliate before the U.S. Congress, PCRM's hostility toward dairy foods continues unabated. In one of his books, Barnard writes that feeding kids meat and milk "is a form of child abuse." (That same message now shows up on PETA billboards.) Ten years later, Barnard wrote that milk was itself an addictive drug. "Cheese," he told a Food and Drug Administration panel, is "dairy crack" and "the purest form of the [milk] drug." [Click here for video and forward to 03:24:38.]
Just how dedicated is the "Physicians Committee" to exiling milk from Americans' diets?
PCRM publicly objected to a U.S. Senator's proposal to put milk vending machines in every American public school.
PCRM contends that juvenile diabetes is caused by milk consumption -- a claim that endocrinologist Dr. Ines Guttman-Bauman of Children's National Medical Center calls "complete nonsense." PCRM also alleges milk's complicity in everything from asthma and allergies to breast cancer.
In 2002, PCRM filed a legal petition against the U.S. Department of Agriculture, claiming school lunches that include milk "discriminate against minorities. "
On a vegetarian message board in December, a PCRM nutritionist issued a plea for help collecting examples of how schools encourage kids to drink milk. "We're looking for anything promoting dairy milk," she wrote, "from posters to classroom materials. If any of your kids have digital cameras or cameras on their cell phones and could take pics of what they see, that would be great."
This month, PCRM asked its supporters for help gathering information that could be used to sue dairy producers. "PCRM," the group's e-mail read, "would like to bring a lawsuit against the dairy industry for false advertising."
Last month's Pediatrics study carried a curious disclaimer that declared PCRM's authors had "no conflict of interest." If being a part of the animal-rights movement (and maintaining alliances with the movement's violent fringe, as we discussed yesterday) doesn't disqualify you from analyzing the nutritional benefits of milk, it's hard to imagine what would.
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Calpernia wrote:
I'm really curious...
Do Vegan's eat honey?
Those poor enslaved bees are prisoners in those boxes....then they have
their food for their larvae ripped out for us selfish humans.
I am daring to venture into the new Walmart, wish me luck. I heard
they have new Dale Jr stuff.
I tried vegan, got hungry after a year and went back to sharecropper style.
Mostly veg, but meat when it appears.
I did learn that there is a big difference in protein contents, per type of veg.
Lentils are very high, something we didn't eat in Texas on a dirt farm.
Ask a Texan to name a bean, and the answer will be Pinto.
There is a big difference in protein content of beans.
My best/most understandable chart, and what I used to place my order from is, open the catalog here and in all the chatter at the top, there will be a link to "Read our Labels", from that, I changed my order a little and was able to add the minerals and vitamins in higher amounts, than what I would have ordered before reading it.
And found a couple things that I liked, such as Lentils.
http://www.waltonfeed.com
For me the company is the most perfect company that I have ever dealt with, and as they knew it was for my daily food supply, during the 2 years that I had no way to get supplies, my order would be here in less than a week.
Others wait longer. Their trucks go all over the country.
Yes, I am advertising for them, no, I don't have any connection with them, found them in a search, checked to see
if the Mormons ordered from them and I am pleased to see their name any time that I can.
LOL
So is the photo animals?
When I first saw it, I thought it might be more of the liberal type porn/threat photos.
I don't see well enough to tell if it is naked liberals, who don't know what to do with a naked body, or something else.
Thanks. . .great minds and all that.
;-)
LOL!
Those are water fowl. The men are hunters and they lined up their bird (geese?) from their day of hunting to spell out PETA. Some are even saluting for the picture with a flip of the bird. :)
I think it is a very funny tribute :)
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>>>>Your post suggest you are lousy DU troll. Either that or a PETA plant.
Oxymoron? :)
>>>Carnation canned milk
That is what I use for making chocolates.
I'm determined now to find a source for goat milk.
I think I finely found a few bean stew recipes that my grandparents (father's side) use to make on Sunday's. I think I told you about the Sunday Bean Stew meals. Those were good. Will check out that link too. Thanks.
Cal, at Walton feed.com, there are good recipes, very good
family types.
There was a link there to a Civil War Cookbook, my interests were always in the old ways of cooking.
There was a recipe chat board, for using the dehydrated products they sell.
If you do any baking, buy Walton's dry buttermilk, you get about 10# for the price of 8oz at Safeway here.
The SAF yeast that they sell for about $4.00 a pound is the exact same thing as the $8.00 bottles of bread machine yeast.
It was cheaper for me to order from them and pay shipping by
UPS to my kitchen, than to go to Kingman and shop at regular stores.
Your bean stew is easy, lots of herbs, garlic, a can of tomatoes, celery, onions and cook, the crockpot is excellent.
Serve it Texas style, with cornbread, fried potatoes, and Mustard or Turnip greens.......
Sliced tomatoes and green onions or sliced onions and yes
that is better than a steak.....
Bake extra cornbread, use it for a tamale pie, add whatever you have to the left over beans, corn, etc, mexican spices cover with cheese and crumple the cornbread on the top, bake an hour. (Or make a fresh batch of cornbread)
In a tamale pie, you can hide anything. All the dabs of leftovers for a week, get or make enchilada sauce to use in it, if you want that taste, I used canned tomatoes and chili
powder and found it good.
In the early 1970's I worked in the Wellton Variety store, a small family, what do you need, we will get it for you store.
Wellton was a farm community and we had a large Mexican population.
We ordered one Crockpot, to see if it would sell.
Someone bought it for a Mexican mother.......
I loved to see her drag in her friends and listen to them talk of the magic of owning a crockpot, "all you do is put the beans in it, turn it on, and when you wake up in the morning, the beans are done, it is a miracle".
That year, Crockpots were our best sellers.
Unless you were raised, as I was, cooking beans on the stove and letting them boil dry, and burn, or not have the time to do it right and making them come out so hard, you can't eat them, you won't understand the magic, we find in cooking the beans in a crockpot.
>>>>If you do any baking, buy Walton's dry buttermilk, you get about 10# for the price of 8oz at Safeway here.
Dry buttermilk? Now that is interesting. I've not seen that! That will be worth getting. The stores by me don't carry much buttermilk. Not much yeast either. And the yeast I've bought over the past few years is old. It is hit and miss to get a good rise with dough. The stores stock stuff to discourage cooking and baking. They want to move the premade garbage.
I've not made tamales yet. My kids don't like too much hot spicy stuff. I have managed to get them to have a taste for garlic; but not hot. They will grow into it though.
I'm going to add a crockpot to my shopping list. I've only used the stove to date. I think a crockpot will work for pea soup? Sounds like a worthwhile investment. I'll try the bean stew recipe in it.
Going to light the BBQ coals now. Just got back from my son's Baseball game.
"Your above statement is pure Peta, the newsletter was sent to me, years ago.
I promise you, we do not spend $1,000's of dollars for a good Milk Cow and allow them to stand in their own feces."
Good, but you aren't a huge operation with little land, right? I grew up on a cattle ranch next door to a dairy farm. If I were under the influence of PETA, I wouldn't raise my own cows to eat or have deer meat in the freezer. I am a health freak, and I know in fact most animals raised in crowded conditions do receive antibiotics, growth hormone, etc.. It's just my choice to not consume products from filthy, crowded factory farms, and that is where most of them do come from. I have seen it with my own eyes, when I was younger and as recent as last year, so you can't change my mind.
I don't drink milk. I only eat free range beef and chicken, and a lot of wild game. Plants are also quite dangerous especially those that originate south of the border where human waste is used for fertilizer and irrigation.
You need to learn a little more about facts yourself. Believe me you have no corner on the market of knowledge."
I never said I did. I make my decisions based on what I do know, and I do grow my own veggies because I am fully aware (as I already stated in this very thread) of the "cra-" in our food! I saw an article about the veggies from south of the border about 6 years ago, and that's when my pink thumb turned green!
My posts do indicate we are in total agreement, so why the adversarial comments friend?
"As opposed to veggies fertilized/feed with human and animal waste."
I live an hour up the hill from a major agricultural area. I have seen illegal aliens taking pee breaks, and it wasn't in the outhouse. I can smell the pesticides when I drive through to go to town. So yes, I do prefer my own organic, homegrown veggies, fertilized with manure that comes from my own horses' backside (I know what HE eats), not from an illegal alien backside. I use only natural pest control because I don't have any desire to consume toxins.
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