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David Banach indicted under USA PATRTIOT ACT
Global News Matrix ^ | March 24, 2005 | MatrixMetaphore

Posted on 03/24/2005 8:08:38 AM PST by MatrixMetaphore

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This makes me sick. I've researched this a great deal and discovered that he can be charged with various other violations. This is an abuse of power. Ugh!
1 posted on 03/24/2005 8:08:39 AM PST by MatrixMetaphore
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To: MatrixMetaphore

Welcome to FR.


2 posted on 03/24/2005 8:10:32 AM PST by Fierce Allegiance
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To: MatrixMetaphore

I feel so much safer now.


3 posted on 03/24/2005 8:10:44 AM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (Drug prohibition laws help fund terrorism.)
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To: MatrixMetaphore

"We'll only use the PATRIOT Act against terrorists."

I didn't believe it then, and I certainly don't believe it now. This is what happens when you give a government more power.


4 posted on 03/24/2005 8:12:37 AM PST by antiRepublicrat
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He's an idiot, not a terrorist.  This is not what the Act was intended for.
 

Owl_Eagle

5 posted on 03/24/2005 8:12:58 AM PST by End Times Sentinel (In Memory of my Dear Friend Henry Lee II)
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"We take the alleged actions of Mr. Banach very seriously, and we will not condone lying to federal agents," U.S. Attorney Christopher Christie said."

This is a way to attack the 5th amendment through the back door.

It's very close to making "failure to confess" a crime.


6 posted on 03/24/2005 8:13:16 AM PST by dsc
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This makes me sick. I've researched this a great deal and discovered that he can be charged with various other violations.

I agree, he should be charged with all those other violations too. I can't believe they're going easy on him!!!

7 posted on 03/24/2005 8:13:54 AM PST by JohnnyZ ("Thought I was having trouble with my adding. It's all right now." - Clint Eastwood)
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How do you use a laser to look at the stars?


8 posted on 03/24/2005 8:14:28 AM PST by ladtx ( "Remember your regiment and follow your officers." Captain Charles May, 2d Dragoons, 9 May 1846)
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I fully agree. If you look at any of my sites, Global News Matrix or Total Mind Blow, you'll see that I fully support altering his charges.
10 posted on 03/24/2005 8:15:43 AM PST by MatrixMetaphore
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Trying to crash planes is terrorism.

Prosecuting him sounds appropriate to me.


11 posted on 03/24/2005 8:15:53 AM PST by <1/1,000,000th%
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This is a way to attack the 5th amendment through the back door. It's very close to making "failure to confess" a crime.

Apparently you don't understand the 5th. It doesn't mean you have the right to lie, it means you have the right to not answer.

12 posted on 03/24/2005 8:16:22 AM PST by JohnnyZ ("Thought I was having trouble with my adding. It's all right now." - Clint Eastwood)
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http://www.usdoj.gov/usao/nj/publicaffairs/NJ_Press/files/pdffiles/banachcomplaint0104.pdf

Here is the Criminal Complaint


13 posted on 03/24/2005 8:16:48 AM PST by MEG33 (GOD BLESS OUR ARMED FORCES)
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Once would have been considered non-purposeful conduct or contact, but the plane's windshield was hit three times. Once = accident; Thrice = hmmmmmm....
14 posted on 03/24/2005 8:16:48 AM PST by jdm (Stockhausen, Kagel, Xenakis -- world capitals or avant-garde composers?)
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I agree. They should charge him under the "Weirdo Dumbass Act."

We should also consider "Weirdo Dumbass" charges against anybody who believed that the Patriot Act was only going to be used against terrorists.

15 posted on 03/24/2005 8:16:55 AM PST by dead (I've got my eye out for Mullah Omar.)
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Well here is the first example of the prosecution of a citizen under a law created and allegedly reserved for terrorists.

Pure BS.


16 posted on 03/24/2005 8:17:07 AM PST by Pylot
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The man is guilty of "Felony Stupid" he ought to be charged with every single charge possible.

If he had dropped a 747 into New York City, the same people who think he is being picked on would want to lynch him.
The only reason it didn't happen was his incompetence, and that is a damned poor defense.

SO9

17 posted on 03/24/2005 8:17:07 AM PST by Servant of the 9 (Trust Me)
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Actualyl, pre-9/11 it was considered a criminal act to interfere with a pilot in any way.

Just FYI.


18 posted on 03/24/2005 8:17:22 AM PST by MacDorcha ("Do you want the e-mail copy or the fax?" "Just the fax, ma'am.")
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To: <1/1,000,000th%

He wasn't trying to crash a plane. He was using the laser to point at stars. Green lasers are powerful enough to outline constellations. In fact, it's one of the reasons they are produced.


19 posted on 03/24/2005 8:17:24 AM PST by MatrixMetaphore
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Exactly, you don't. They guy was probably drunk and thought it would be funny to screw up an airplane. Throw the book at him.


20 posted on 03/24/2005 8:17:33 AM PST by StolarStorm
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