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CSI MEDBLOGS: CODEBLUEBLOG ANALYZES TERRI SCHIAVO'S CT OF THE BRAIN
codeblueblog.blogs.com ^ | 3-21-05 | Dr CBB

Posted on 03/21/2005 4:14:35 PM PST by stan_sipple

THIS BRAIN IS NOT THAT BAD I contest the theory that Terri's brain actively continues to degenerate.

I HAVE SEEN MANY WALKING, TALKING, FAIRLY COHERENT PEOPLE WITH WORSE CEREBRAL/CORTICAL ATROPHY. THEREFORE, THIS IS IN NO WAY PRIMA FACIE EVIDENCE THAT TERRI SCHIAVO'S MENTAL ABILITIES OR/OR CAPABILITIES ARE COMPLETELY ERADICATED. I CANNOT BELIEVE SUCH TESTIMONY HAS BEEN GIVEN ON THE BASIS OF THIS SCAN.

The worrisome, no alarming thing, for me, was that I heard a bioethicist and several important figures on the major media describe Terri's brain as MUCH WORSE. One "expert" said that she had a "bag of water" in her head. Several experts described her as a "brain stem preparation"

These statements are wholly inaccurate. This is an atrophied brain, yes, but there is cortex remaining, and where there's cortex (?life) there's hope.

If you starve this woman to death it would be, in my professional and experienced medical opinion, the equivalent of starving to death a 75-85 year old person. I would take that to the witness stand.

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TOPICS: Government; Health/Medicine; Science; Society
KEYWORDS: brain; medicine; righttolife; schiavo; terri; terrischiavo
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1 posted on 03/21/2005 4:14:37 PM PST by stan_sipple
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To: stan_sipple

Save Terri bump!!!!


2 posted on 03/21/2005 4:24:04 PM PST by GregB (Senate republicans have no ^%$#!!!)
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To: GregB

we should have this MD blogger testify for TS


3 posted on 03/21/2005 4:25:45 PM PST by stan_sipple
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To: stan_sipple

Wow, great find stan. Everyone should read the entire article and comments. Lots of interesting questions raised.


4 posted on 03/21/2005 4:28:33 PM PST by Untouchable (pleaseaddthistomyfile@fbi.gov)
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To: stan_sipple
This case is - and was, even before the national media exposure - nothing more than a testbed for the Left's agenda to legalize euthanasia. 'Hey, WTF - let the sheep kill the unborn and the infirm, as long as the rest are compliant and a source of our power and revenue. We decide what 'morality' is. After all, are we not their 'Gods'?'


5 posted on 03/21/2005 4:28:43 PM PST by Viking2002 (Let's get the Insurrection started, already..............)
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To: Untouchable

same MD blogger exposed Clinton's "illnesses."


6 posted on 03/21/2005 4:31:32 PM PST by stan_sipple
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To: stan_sipple

Yes, I ran across this website last night after asking an adamant "Let Terri Die" person on this board if he had personally seen a scan.

Miami Ethics website he referred to

Page where scan is mentioned

Justice for Terri Schiavo link

I haven't had a chance to read these sites yet, and since I didn't know how to interpret the scan myself, I didn't comment on it last night. All new info for me. Bumping for Terri.

7 posted on 03/21/2005 4:35:17 PM PST by lsee
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To: lsee

full blog hints that TS suffered trauma at some point, not just O2 deprivation


8 posted on 03/21/2005 4:37:42 PM PST by stan_sipple
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To: stan_sipple
Here is another MD's report.

He tried to testify for her and was ignored.(William M. Hammesfahr, M.D.) It is basically his final conclusion of Terri's condition. I have left out parts because it is lengthy but I think you can get the jest.

Impression:

The patient is not in coma.

She is alert and responsive to her environment. She responds to specific people best.

She tries to please others by doing activities for which she gets verbal praise.

She responds negatively to poor tone of voice. She responds to music. She differentiates sounds from voices.

She differentiates specific people's voices from others.

She differentiates music from stray sound.

She attempts to verbalize.(!!!!!)

She has voluntary control over multiple extremities

She can swallow.(!!!!)

She is partially blind

She is probably aphasic and has a degree of receptive aphasia.

She can feel pain.

On this last point, it is interesting to observe that the records from Hospice show frequent medication administered for pain by staff.

With respect to specifics and specific recommendations in order to carry out the instructions of the Second District Court of Appeal:

From a neurological standpoint: The patient appears to be partially blind.

She needs a full opthamological (eye) evaluation and visual evoked potentials done to flash and checkerboard patters. The opthamological examination is to evaluate her retina and her ophthalmic nerve to try to determine the cause of her visual limitations and if any treatment exists. The evoked potentials looks at the nerve between the eye and the visual centers in the brain, to see if there is treatable damage and the type of damage, if any in these areas.

This is important, as for individuals to interact with her...

*snip*

Communication: She can communicate. She needs a Speech Therapist, Speech Pathologist, and a communications expert to evaluate how to best communicate with her and to allow her to communicate and for others to communicate with her.

Also, a treatment plan for how to develop better communication needs to be done.

*snip*

ENT: The patient can clearly swallow, and is able to swallow approximately 2 liters of water per day (the daily amount of saliva generated). Water is one of the most difficult things for people to swallow. It is unlikely that she currently needs the feeding tube.(!!!!!) She should be evaluated by an Ear Nose and Throat specialist, and have a new swallowing exam.

*snip*

Her physical exam and videotapes also suggest a spinal cord injury is also present, as she has much better control over he face, head, and neck, than over her arms and legs.

This reminds one of a person with a spinal cord injury who has good facial control, but poor use of arms and legs. It is possible that a correctable spinal abnormality such as a herniated disk may be found that could be treated and result in better neurological functioning. This should be looked for, as may be treatable.

Thus, there may be an injured disk or spinal cord; the disk injury is more treatable, the spinal cord injury, if present without a disk injury, may be more difficult to treat.

A person with a spinal cord injury and hypoxic encephalopathy will need different treatment and rehab recommendations than one who just has a hypoxic encephalopathic.

Interestingly, I have seen this pattern of mixed brain (cerebral) and spinal cord findings in a patient once before, a patient who was asphyxiated.

*snip*

____________________________ William M. Hammesfahr, M.D.

9 posted on 03/21/2005 4:39:08 PM PST by Earthdweller (US descendant of French Protestants)
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Shocking how Judge Greer seemed to gloss over all of this medical evidence and capitulated to the husband's line


10 posted on 03/21/2005 4:50:32 PM PST by stan_sipple
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To: stan_sipple
Here's a nice picture of a random autonomic smile.


11 posted on 03/21/2005 4:56:46 PM PST by TigersEye ("Where there is life there is hope!" - Terri Schiavo)
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To: stan_sipple; Earthdweller
This is the part that I have BIG trouble with:

"Interestingly, I have seen this pattern of mixed brain (cerebral) and spinal cord findings in a patient once before, a patient who was asphyxiated. "

This glove fits.

Lots of indications and sources to indicate foul play.
12 posted on 03/21/2005 5:06:10 PM PST by DaveTesla (You can fool some of the people some of the time......)
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To: GregB
A question for Freepers - why didn't her parents file for divorce since he (her husband) has a new "wife" and kids. I think this avenue has been refuted, but now my husband is asking.
13 posted on 03/21/2005 5:14:02 PM PST by Raffus (Thanks to all Veterans for their service to our Country.)
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To: stan_sipple
Excellent find, stan_sipple!

Here's a nice picture of a random autonomic smile for you. ;^)

Where there is cortex there is hope!

14 posted on 03/21/2005 5:17:16 PM PST by TigersEye ("Where there is life there is hope!" - Terri Schiavo)
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To: stan_sipple

They've already decided they want her dead. It seems no amount of info has the power to stop this, because so many people think that if a person is inconvenient they should be done away with.


15 posted on 03/21/2005 5:19:10 PM PST by Terriergal (What is the meaning of life?? Man's chief end is to glorify God and to enjoy him for ever.)
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To: stan_sipple

Why hasn't she had an MRI and/or a PET scan, anyone know?


16 posted on 03/21/2005 5:20:36 PM PST by mewzilla (Has CBS retracted the story yet?)
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To: DaveTesla
Lots of indications and sources to indicate foul play.

Yes.

There is an article from last September where they tried to get someone to look into allegations of abuse. I haven't seen anything else come of it.

17 posted on 03/21/2005 5:21:06 PM PST by Terriergal (What is the meaning of life?? Man's chief end is to glorify God and to enjoy him for ever.)
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To: mewzilla

from this blog:
"Based on this evidence Terri Schiavo should have a CT scan repeated. She should also have an MRI and a PET scan to gage the severity of her brain dysfunction.

IF THIS IS TERRI'S CT OF THE BRAIN, SOMETHING MAY BE VERY WRONG"


18 posted on 03/21/2005 5:22:11 PM PST by stan_sipple
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To: stan_sipple

BUMP!


19 posted on 03/21/2005 5:22:21 PM PST by Pajamajan (And if God will send His angels, and if God will send a sign, will everything be alright? Pray4Terri)
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To: Terriergal
Have you seen this?

Complete Report of Dr. William Hammesfahr
20 posted on 03/21/2005 5:32:26 PM PST by DaveTesla (You can fool some of the people some of the time......)
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