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I am a Christian who believes Terri should be allowed to die... Am I the only one?
n/a ^ | 2-23-05 | InHisService

Posted on 02/23/2005 5:29:08 PM PST by InHisService

First, let me say I am a Christian, and am anti-abortion. I have read quite a bit about the Terri Schiavo case and my heart goes out to her and her family, and yes, even her husband.

I'm quite sure I will take a lot of flak for this opinion, as everyone here seems determined to keep this poor woman alive.

It seems no one is sure whether or not she is in a persistive vegetative state, and doctors on both sides are firm in their convictions.

I only know that if it was me, I would, without a doubt, NOT want to be kept alive this way. Terri doesn't have the capability to state what she wants, but had she been if asked the question when she was healthy, (as her husband states) most likely, she would not want these ongoing court battles, the media circus and the heartbreak for all involved. Really, would any of us want that for our families?

I believe in letting her die with dignity. I do not believe it is murder. I have made sure to tell my family members, if this ever happens to me, do not keep me alive in this state.

May God's will be done.


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To: Calpernia
So you openly admit you are just here to twist words for trolling?

Trolling? That's a good one. Lose the sanctimony.

381 posted on 02/24/2005 6:34:14 AM PST by dirtboy (Drooling moron since 1998...)
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To: Calpernia
Where are earth did HOTD even hint that she was imposing anything on others?

I made that clear. Apparently, it wasn't to you. Oh, well.

382 posted on 02/24/2005 6:34:51 AM PST by dirtboy (Drooling moron since 1998...)
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To: InHisService
Terri's parents want to care for Terri and provide medical treatment for the past 10 years. Michael has always refused Terri's parents to care for their daughter. Michael has not provided necessary care he was suppose to after winning money in court. Legally, Terri's will is not in writing. Michael's word is hear say.

There is evidence, which has been presented on Greta's show by experts and Dr's have stated, that indicates trauma in her medical records of that night. Trauma a stroke doesn't cause. This could be a motive for Michael not to allow her to have other guardians, to not allow medical treatment, to have total control so there is never a chance for improvement in her condition. Michael was suppose to provide medical treatment, as indicated by his win in court for money given to care for Terri. Care that he never allowed Terri to receive. There are members of the hospital staff that have witnessed questionable care from Michael. Even, medical staff have suspicion of him giving her insulin and she isn't diabetic.

For the past ten years, her parents have been begging for the opportunity to care for their daughter but Michael will not allow it. They would do anything for the opportunity to care for the child they raised and loved from a baby. Her husband, who now has another common law wife with children has a conflict of interest. IF there is any chance, any chance, that Terri will have a positive outcome from treatment her parents would like to provide for her, then it is obvious to let them have an opportunity to provide care for her. Yet, that isn't even a consideration.

My Grandfather had a stroke and was never the same. As a child, when we went to visit, he just sat in a chair or rested in bed. I use to run back and forth from each room and touch his finger. He loved the game and responded with a twinkle in his eyes, smiles and some mumbling. He did not have the quality of life before his stroke but he lived well in his condition. My Grandfather enjoyed the love of his 6 grandchildren. He died in his own time. The thought that someone would even think of starving him is chilling.

383 posted on 02/24/2005 6:40:11 AM PST by GodBlessUSA (No, just because my user-name was on that thread-I'm not a troll. 4 years of posting and 1+lurking.)
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To: jwalsh07
When I was a kid like TS was, I said to my pals, if I ever get that old shoot me. Well, I'm that old and if they start shooting, I'm shooting back.

A comment while watching a TV show at that age is as legally binding as my comment. This is simply sick.

The parents will care for their daughter. Schiavo has a new family. The solution is obvious and it doesn't include the state oredering the dehydration of a human being who is wanted and loved.

**************

Great post!

384 posted on 02/24/2005 6:42:02 AM PST by trisham (proudly jackbooted and pajama clad!)
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I can't help but think to myself....

To forsake all others. In sickness and in health. I, Do.
385 posted on 02/24/2005 6:47:29 AM PST by GodBlessUSA (No, just because my user-name was on that thread-I'm not a troll. 4 years of posting and 1+lurking.)
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To: eccentric

Actually, I was watching her parents on tv last night and her dad said that the video that is being shown in 6-7 years old and if anyone could see one of her now, they would see more improvement.


386 posted on 02/24/2005 6:49:57 AM PST by gopheraj
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To: DJ MacWoW
Emergency room doctor?

Like the one who twice (two separate times) tried to tell my brother in law that he had some kind of venereal disease or lyme disease and sent him on his way. David later died of leukemia. They only admitted him to the hospital after I told my sister to tell them if they didn't admit him, she was going to sue the sh*t out of them. This was at Brackenridge in Austin.
387 posted on 02/24/2005 6:58:18 AM PST by gopheraj
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To: Trinity_Tx
You can't post like that....

It's rational and prudent..and smacks of being realistic..

How dare you..!!

388 posted on 02/24/2005 7:00:43 AM PST by Osage Orange (Hillary Clinton's so crooked...you can't tell from her tracks whether she's coming or going....)
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To: Dog Gone
Ditto, DG

Interesting point that everyone here misses....you NEED to have a will and a living will. The whole purpose of a living will is to circumvent spectacles like this.

BTW, my wife and I have discussed this very issue, and she knows where I stand. I have never discussed the issue with my parents....

389 posted on 02/24/2005 7:07:55 AM PST by ContemptofCourt
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To: LauraleeBraswell

It is people like you that made me put my final wishes in a legal document to protect my wife. If I were in Terri’s situation, I would not want a feeding tube. I also know my family would put my wife through exactly what Terri’s parents are putting her husband through today. My family, like many posters on this thread, believes they speak for God and don’t care what other’s wishes are on any subject.

I have been through horrible long drawn out deaths several times with relatives and friends. I saw a friend in Viet Nam with the back top of his head blown off, leaving only the very base stem of the brain. The bullet went through just above and behind his ears. He reacted to stimuli in the hospital just like Terri does now. His doctors recommended letting him die with dignity since there was no hope, but his parent’s religion got in the way. Their decision was to take him home and pray for miracles. The doctors said the teenager could live for fifty to sixty years on a feeding tube, but he would never re-grow a functioning brain.

I have no problem with rational discussions on any subject. I refuse to discuss anything with someone arrogant enough to speak for God. This is exactly why I normally don’t post on these threads. I only posted on this one to lend support to the original poster being unmercifully thrown to the lions by the good christians.

Bye bye now.


390 posted on 02/24/2005 8:35:49 AM PST by ORECON (Condi Rice/Donald Rumsfield - 2008)
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To: LauraleeBraswell

She closes her eyes when her priest visits and prays. She opens her eyes when he finishes praying. That tells me she's aware.


391 posted on 02/24/2005 10:07:47 AM PST by pickyourpoison (" Laus Deo ")
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To: InHisService

Ha ha. You can SAY you are a Christian. You can SAY you believe starving a disabled person is "merciful." You can SAY the "poor woman" would be better off dead. But that does not make it so. Do you believe Jesus would deny Terri food and water until she finally died after 10 or more days of being dehydrated? If you are a Christian, you need to contemplate and pray. If you're not, then you are a liar. Yeah, I took your bait. Mmmmm. It's almost as good as the nourishment flowing through feeding tubes all around the United States, keeping people who can't eat by themselves alive for years and years. Mmmm-good!


392 posted on 02/24/2005 10:14:46 AM PST by spiralsue
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To: ORECON; pickyourpoison
Life is so easily undone. Death is not.
393 posted on 02/24/2005 10:18:29 AM PST by LauraleeBraswell ( CONSERVATIVE FIRST-Republican second.)
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To: MarMema


Jonah- From the Giver


Everyone here needs to read the Giver from Louis Lowry.


394 posted on 02/24/2005 10:23:15 AM PST by LauraleeBraswell ( CONSERVATIVE FIRST-Republican second.)
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To: dirtboy
Target-rich environment. I look forward to your grouping on this target when I review the carnage tomorrow.

DRAGON BAIT!

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dirtboy

395 posted on 02/24/2005 10:26:28 AM PST by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: dirtboy
Target-rich environment. I look forward to your grouping on this target when I review the carnage tomorrow.

DRAGON BAIT!

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dirtboy

396 posted on 02/24/2005 10:27:11 AM PST by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: Trinity_Tx
"I perceive your newly-minted screen name is phoney-baloney religious smokescreen, not fooling many of us."

"Get the Newbie!!!"

Just to clarify... she's been here for 2 *years*. And her posting history looks pretty clean. A *lot* of us are "shooting first and aiming later", here.

Thank you for taking the time to notice that.

397 posted on 02/24/2005 10:34:10 AM PST by InHisService
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To: InHisService

Absolutely not! You can't place a value on human life like that. How immature and irresponsible to even suggest such a thing.


398 posted on 02/24/2005 10:36:59 AM PST by Right Wing It (Conservative truths)
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To: InHisService

Absolutely not! You can't place a value on human life like that. How immature and irresponsible to even suggest such a thing.


399 posted on 02/24/2005 10:37:49 AM PST by Right Wing It (Conservative truths)
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To: ORECON
I have no problem with rational discussions on any subject. I refuse to discuss anything with someone arrogant enough to speak for God. This is exactly why I normally don’t post on these threads. I only posted on this one to lend support to the original poster being unmercifully thrown to the lions by the good christians.

Thank you, Orecon. I have to say after seeing some of the hateful responses, one which told me to kill myself, others posting silly pictures implying I am a "troll", and yet others painting me as a Nazi, I am embarassed to be a Christian, and a Conservative. If this is what Christians and Conservatives truly are, I do not want to be identified as either.

400 posted on 02/24/2005 10:46:30 AM PST by InHisService
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