IN VIRGINIA: DOUBLE JEOPARDY FOR SPEEDING

http://www.freemarketnews.com ^ | Jan 25, 2005 | by staff reports

[P8riot]

Yeah that probably wouldn't fly around here. I'm a couple miles from a general aviation airport and a fire station.

[beezdotcom]

What part of VA?

[P8riot]

Chesterfield, just south of Richmond.

[GrandEagle]

Virginia is beautiful, and almost as long to drive across as Texas!
I do understand the need for traffic control, and I don't advocated eliminating it, but it should be for traffic control not revenue generation.
I grew up in Mississippi. Actually speeding had less to do with getting a ticket than what you drove. I always hated that because you never knew when you would get a ticket.

Hopefully Virgina will work this out.

Cordially,
GE

[GottaLuvAkitas1]

"Hopefully Virgina will work this out.

I'm with you, but I doubt it.

[Mudboy Slim]

I went to undergrad with Dave Albo and usedta party with him often...looks like I may haveta look him up again...this is ridiculous!! I was just complaining today about these so-called "safety corridors" wherein the penalties fer speeding are something like $500 minimum...talk about yer Abuse of Power!!

SHEEEESH...MUD

[muawiyah]

Guess the writer of that "privilege" comment should have been more specific. It seems that using the public right of way is a privilege, not a right.

Whether you are walking or riding or driving, you have to meet certain standards. In many places pedestrians MUST use the sidewalk, if available, else they get ticketed, even in front of their own homes.

The solution to the problem is the elimination of public right of way!

[muawiyah]

We were in Little Rock, Arkansas on business. Four of us were in a car. The light turned red so our driver stopped the car.

A dump truck driver ploughed his truck into the rear of our car.

He explained that he thought we were going to run the red light.

[muawiyah]

Why do people in California continue to speed?

Obviously the answer is in the restrictions they've placed on Second Amendment rights.

If it were generally the case in CA that you could anticipate that the next guy was armed, or could be, they'd be much more polite.

[muawiyah]

VA is terribly wide (as states go), and the ONLY way you can bypass it is to drive all the way to Kentucky and Tennessee, and cross the Appalachians two times.

Virginia could very well live on the revenue to be taken from lawbreaking travelers should the need ever arise.

I'll pass the idea along to my old buddy (and State Senator) Dave Albo for consideration.

[cajun-jack]

if you have a CDL, it doesn't matter...15 mph over the limit and your license can be revoked.

All the cops now are little ninja pointed head drug warriors...they are cry babies and are afraid of their own shadow...they will steal whatever they can from your vehicle and sit around waffle house and brag to each other about what "bad sumbitches" they are.

I hate them all..a young lady that i know had went to the drive thru and caxhed her paycheck..little over $500.00..she was stopped early that evening...when asked if they could search her vehicle, she told them "NO" there was no reason to search her vehicle...they ignored this and went all over her car...they found no drugs but the $500.00 + was gone and the sheriff dept denied any liability due to the impeccable integrity of their officers.

Ouachita parish (monroe & west monroe, La) is the worse place in the whole state of Louisiana, Sheriff Richard Fewell, was himself at one time a little sissy that got his ass kicked daily at school and looks like a beady eyed little mole..

i have great respect for "law Enforcement" but these guys they hire nowadays are really lil nazis with bad haircuts.

[Figment]

30 MPH over the limit in many places is reckless driving and carries a very large fine. It's kinda hard to say, "oops, I didn't notice I was over the limit" when you're 30 over

[mrsmith]

If you come through Richmond on 95 be aware that speeding in that area will get an "enhanced" fine. Now.

"Speeding Fines Doubled Along Richmond I-95 Corridor
January 6, 2005
The Virginia Departments of Transportation, Motor Vehicles and State Police announced today that a 13-mile segment of Interstate 95 from Bells Road south of Richmond to Brook Road north of Richmond has been designated a "Highway Safety Corridor." Under a law passed by the Virginia General Assembly in 2003, maximum speeding fines in a Highway Safety Corridor are doubled, from $250 to $500. Minimum fines for Reckless Driving are set at $200 and can reach the maximimum fine of $2,500. Fines for DUI are unaffected and remain at a minimum of $250 and a maximum of $2,500. "

[Figment]

"about 6 months later he gets another bill for an additional 100.00 for the tickets he already paid the fines on"


What was the extra for? Does Mich have a RICO type traffic law?

[HighWheeler]

Here is a good read you should like on the subject.

http://www.lectlaw.com/def/d075.htm

[finallyatexan]

Apparently this new law to fine offenders who have already paid fines came about after we moved to Texas. We knew nothing about it - just assumed he had paid his debt and then got the bill saying that because he had 2 tickets in one year he owed another fine. I didn't want to say anything to him other than those are the consequences for not obeying the law but I really think these new "taxes" are highway robbery. I could see it if he got 2 dui's or going 90 in a 35 but basically paying 400.00 for 5 over is ridiculous.

[HighWheeler]

Before you said that, you should have read item 3 at this link:

http://www.lectlaw.com/def/d075.htm

[Figment]

when asked if they could search her vehicle, she told them "NO"


That's not a yes or no question. They don't need your permission to search your car, they do need probable cause. A yes or no answer can be probable cause depending on other circumstances. Where I live , no gets the drug dog called in, yes gets you searched. I've given the "you don't need my permission if you have probable cause" answer on 2 occasions and they shrugged it off and let me go on my way

[Figment]

That is ridiculous. I can see large fines for 30+ and such, but 3 fines for 2 minor tickets is theft