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Cutting Loose Baby
Bridegroom Press ^ | Steve Kellmeyer

Posted on 12/28/2004 10:13:55 AM PST by skellmeyer

"Fetus Cut From Slain Woman's Body" the headlines screamed, as schizophrenia became the order of the day. Virtually every article on the latest incident of in vivo tissue-knapping vacillated on correct terminology. Should they refer to the contents of the uterus as a fetus or a baby? Was Bobbi Jo Stinnett, the murdered woman, a mother or a mother-to-be? The Amber Alert, an emergency response developed to help find missing children, was issued "for the missing fetus." But, within a day, the little one had become a "baby… named Victoria Jo." Fox News showed the most wildly inventive mix of terms in a single sentence, "Montgomery was in possession of the infant believed to be the stolen fetus when police found the baby on Friday, ending a day of frantic searching. DNA tests will confirm whether the girl is Stinnett's."

Whew. You’ve got to wonder how many editors threw their two cents in on that sentence.

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TOPICS: Health/Medicine
KEYWORDS: abortion; fetus; lisamontgomery; stinnet

1 posted on 12/28/2004 10:13:55 AM PST by skellmeyer
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To: skellmeyer

I suppose they should just make it easy. If the mother gives the consent to abort at any time then it's a non-human fetus entity. If the mother doesn't give her consent it's a baby


2 posted on 12/28/2004 10:18:50 AM PST by HarleyD
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So will the AMA come up with some psychiatric term to describe the mindset that causes someone to do this...?
Sharper Minds Daily...
4 posted on 12/28/2004 10:25:16 AM PST by KMC1
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To: skellmeyer

The Left and their media friends are so confused by the simplicity of life. In fact, they are just so confused on so many levels about so many things.


5 posted on 12/28/2004 10:28:19 AM PST by anniegetyourgun
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To: anniegetyourgun

Amen. if everyone admitts that a BABY was cut from her Mother's womb. What does that make abortion that kills the BABY??????????


6 posted on 12/28/2004 10:36:33 AM PST by marty60
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To: HarleyD

Even after birth?


7 posted on 12/28/2004 10:38:36 AM PST by netmilsmom (God send you a Blessed 2005!)
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To: skellmeyer

All I want to know is how the perp knew how to cut the baby out of the mother without injuring the baby? did she have a nursing background? Or, as my husband conjectures, was she familiar with gutting deer?

This is a horrible case, and I feel so sorry for the Stinnett family, but the question remains...How did Mongomery succeed in removing the baby? I don't think any news story has addressed that yet. And since she's confessed, I doubt that there will be a trial -- just a sentencing.


8 posted on 12/28/2004 10:40:24 AM PST by afraidfortherepublic
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To: HarleyD
I think one of the best arguments against abortion, is to simply argue for infanticide. Killing a baby before birth requires action to prevent the natural process that will result in the baby being born alive. In contrast, infanticide requires no action. Simply put the baby aside after birth and let it die on its own.

The argument that a fetus isn't "viable" can be answered with "Good point. As a matter of fact no toddler is "viable" by themselves either, so let's just say infanticide is OK until the baby is old enough to beg for mercy." The pro-abortion folks hate this.
9 posted on 12/28/2004 10:41:19 AM PST by SampleMan ("Yes I am drunk, very drunk. But you madam are ugly, and tomorrow morning I shall be sober." WSC)
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To: KMC1
So will the AMA come up with some psychiatric term to describe the mindset that causes someone to do this...?

They already did: "Liberal"

10 posted on 12/28/2004 10:45:18 AM PST by John O (God Save America (Please))
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To: HarleyD

And as long as the baby doesn't object, then she should be able to kill it.


11 posted on 12/28/2004 10:47:30 AM PST by Blood of Tyrants (God is not a Republican. But Satan is definitely a Democrat.)
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To: skellmeyer

Obvious, but good point. I've been saying this ever since I saw the story, this will be a big arguement in the abortion debate.


12 posted on 12/28/2004 10:58:34 AM PST by zbigreddogz
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To: skellmeyer

Through all the articles on this, we're still not hearing anything from the baby's dad. Does he have custody yet?


13 posted on 12/28/2004 12:00:58 PM PST by Kerfuffle
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To: afraidfortherepublic; skellmeyer

Early reports that identified the (Montgomery's) red sedan in the driveway also mentioned a woman and two men.

Who were the two men? Was one of them medically trained? Are they still a part of the ongoing investigation...assuming that's the case?


14 posted on 12/28/2004 12:04:30 PM PST by HiJinx ( www.ProudPatriots.org ~ Operation Valentine's Day ~ 1/1/05 to 1/21/05)
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To: skellmeyer

I think this terminology is more a question of when a human gains personhood under the law. For instance, dependent death insurance benefits would not be paid for a miscarriage or non-live birth, as there is no recognized legal personhood. On the other hand, the Scott Peterson trial illustrates that California law has recongized personhood in a non-birthed human for purposes of criminal death.

I think the term "fetus" is most often used in reference to an unborn human, particularly one that is unable of being self-sustaining outside the womb. A "baby" is most often used in reference to a human that has been born alive and is capable of being self sustaining in its basic functions of eating and breathing. A baby has recognized separate personhood under the law.


15 posted on 12/28/2004 1:38:46 PM PST by marsh2
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To: marsh2

Yes well at one time Blacks were non-persons. all kinds of outrages occur when people start deciding WHO gets personhood.


16 posted on 12/29/2004 6:18:16 AM PST by marty60
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