1 posted on
12/10/2004 6:11:07 PM PST by
6ppc
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To: 6ppc
Do anything you can...you'll never see her again if she goes.
God what a horror.
2 posted on
12/10/2004 6:15:14 PM PST by
Dallas59
("A weak peace is worse than war" - Tacitcus)
To: 6ppc
Other than locking her in the basement you are screwed!
4 posted on
12/10/2004 6:18:27 PM PST by
rocksblues
(No more Kerry, no more polls!)
To: 6ppc
Ok, desperate situations call for desperate questions. Is your daughter fat and plain-looking?
That type usually goes looking for Muslim men because they are the world's best at sweet-talking. After the marriage her life will be hell, but she doesn't know that yet.
5 posted on
12/10/2004 6:19:01 PM PST by
xJones
To: 6ppc
Make her read http://www.faithfreedom.org/faq.htm
And everything else published on that site.
Don't let her go to Saudi Arabia.
She is mere property there.
India is ok, they have laws, but in Saudi she is nothing but cattle no matter how sweet and promisng this guy is.
6 posted on
12/10/2004 6:19:05 PM PST by
konaice
To: 6ppc
Has she even met him in person yet? You need to get her friends to talk some sense into her to sloooooowwwww things down.
9 posted on
12/10/2004 6:21:43 PM PST by
finnman69
(cum puella incedit minore medio corpore sub quo manifestus globus, inflammare animos)
To: 6ppc
Zap that computer!
Does she have credit cards?
Cancel them behind her back.
Does she have a cell phone?
Soak the battery in water while she sleeps.
This is much more serious than she will understand.
Ever see that movie, "Not without my daughter"
GET IT!!! Make her watch it.
He is charming her and sweeping her off her feet. You have a major battle.
11 posted on
12/10/2004 6:21:56 PM PST by
Calpernia
(Breederville.com)
To: 6ppc
I was going to be silly and tell you to lobotomize her...then I saw the seriousness of the problem. I am terribly sorry.
Have her watch, Not Without My Daughter.
12 posted on
12/10/2004 6:22:38 PM PST by
bannie
(Jamma Nana!)
To: 6ppc
I think that you are wise to pressure him to come here. Internet beauties often wear thin in person.
14 posted on
12/10/2004 6:23:36 PM PST by
mlmr
(Merry Christmas! Merry Christmas! Merry Christmas! Merry Christmas! Merry Christmas! Merry Chri)
To: 6ppc
Do you have the money to have him checked out? If so go to Drudge and connect to all the UK papers and find an investigator in the UK. If those sections are not on line go to the biggest bookstore in your area and get the Sunday UK papers. If all that fails, FReepmail me as I have two niece's with in-laws in Bath and London and I'll find you one.
To: 6ppc; nw_arizona_granny; Calpernia; Cindy; Indie; freeperfromnj; SlowBoat407; ExSoldier; HipShot; ..
Ping.
Any advice for this mom?
17 posted on
12/10/2004 6:26:48 PM PST by
Velveeta
To: 6ppc
1) Does she have a Passport? If not, she must apply and you might want to drop a note in the ear of State that they best be careful processing her application as she is intending to meet a muslum from Saudi. This guy needs a visa to visit the states. Pass his details to state to flag him to make sure he applies for the proper visa, and that state should be careful issuing a visa as this guy appears to be intent upon using your daughter to enter the states and overstay (illegally).
2) Get this guys full name and date of birth to the Homeland Security guys. I am confident his name probably is on some list by now. . .name, but maybe not him,. . .but enough to confuse the issue so your daughter may pause.
3) Get him to come to the US and drop a dime to the FBI. Express your concern he is attempting to enter the US and STAY (possibly by using your daughter. . .a "sleeper" terrorist, as it were because of his Saudi ties.
4) Do a web search to see if he is anywhere on the net.
5) Find out exactly where he says he attends university. Call the school. Explain to them the situation (daughter "met" him on the net. He is talking marriage. Alleges he goes to school there. . .see what the university might share.
6) When he arrives have the local police act on a tip that he might be into drugs and they need to use the dogs for a sniff test. If the dogs get a hit then your daughter may pause.
This is just a start.
GET HIM TO THE STATES.
To: 6ppc
Have you raised your daughter as a Christian? Do you have a pastor who is close to your family she can speak with?
Do you have other close friends she respects who can talk with her and influence her?
Does she understand the Muslim faith and how it portrays and treats women? It is not likely that she has a good understanding of this and the potential consequences should she move out of country with this individual, particularly back to India, or to Saudi Arabia.
I would continue to talk straight to the muslim suitor, indicating that you and your spouse will not bless, honor, or sanction this union. Let him know that you are committed to your daughter's welfare and will do all in your power to ensure that she is not taken for granted, taken advantage of, or in any way limited in her freedom of choice. Do this to see what his reaction is, if, and how he tries to reassure you. God bless you in your efforts. Our prayers here in Idaho will be on your behalf.
19 posted on
12/10/2004 6:28:18 PM PST by
Jeff Head
(www.dragonsfuryseries.com)
To: 6ppc
"Break" the computer.
Disconnect phone service.
Immediately.
(Talking to your LEO friends is a good idea)
23 posted on
12/10/2004 6:31:42 PM PST by
Velveeta
To: 6ppc
Have her watch the movie, "Not Without My Daughter." If that doesn't get her thinking, see if you can come up with video of a female genital mutilation and an "honor killing." Maybe taped interviews of American women who have married Muslim men whose children are now held hostage to Islamic societies where women have no rights at all.
Don't mean to bum you out any more, but you're right. This is serious. You do what you need to do. And if all else fails, forbid it. If she says you can't make her, just remind her that as the wife of a Muslim, she'd better get used to things being forbidden and to having no will of her own.
24 posted on
12/10/2004 6:33:32 PM PST by
sweetliberty
(Just because we CAN do something, doesn't mean we should.)
To: 6ppc
Oh, my goodness. Well, three thoughts spring to mind.
1) Find a PI in the UK and see if you can dig up any dirt on this guy, especially anything such as him already having a wife. (Your daughter might not care about him having a criminal record but she might be ticked off if he already has a wife!) I found an association of British private investigators here: The ABI. I don't know anything about this association but it appears that you can find someone to hire through it.
2) See if you can find out who his parents are and find some way to contact them. They might not be thrilled at all to find out that their son is contemplating marrying an American non-Muslim.
3) This is really dirty pool ... but do any of your friends have good-looking sons? Can you subtly find a way to introduce them (such as friend comes over to help you fix something around the house and has his son with him). I would even consider bribing the son to act interested. However, if you do something like this, you will have to be VERY careful not to get caught, since she will just be even angrier if she finds out. However, a good-looking guy in the hand is worth two on the Internet, especially if you're just 20!
Good luck with this!!!!!!
25 posted on
12/10/2004 6:33:45 PM PST by
Hetty_Fauxvert
(http://sonoma-moderate.blogspot.com/)
To: 6ppc
Call the State Dept and find out about all the mothers who have had their children kidnapped and taken back to a Muslim country, never to see them again. I'm sure they can give you enough information to wake her up. I've seen specials on TV about women who end up in that position. Perhaps they could give you information on how to obtain a video of one of those programs.
I'm sorry you're having to go through this. It's gotta be scary. Have you tried to take her to a singles group at a local Christian church? I'm sure the pastor could help you. I'll keep you all in prayer.
Show her this thread and the pictures of the men, women and children who have all been murdered by Muslims in the last few years. It's a good reminder what we're dealing with.
To: 6ppc
My cousin's Saudi husband beat her, broke her arm and her nose before she figured it out. Thankfully, they were still in the U.S. and she could obtain a divorce, her daddy got a smart lawyer and got him deported back to S.A.
Frankly, I would report him as "suspicious" to the FBI, just in case.
If you have the money, I would pay a likely local boy to entertain and take your daughter to dinner, movies, concerts, who cares what. It doesn't have to be dating, more of a social escort to get her socially active with her peer group again. She'll lose interest in the long distance relationship if she has some local interests.
Sign her up with a local dating service. Hire one of those cult deprogramming outfits.
At this point, you have nothing to lose but your child, so be daring and innovative.
Doing nothing is the only wrong choice.
27 posted on
12/10/2004 6:35:13 PM PST by
Valpal1
(The constitution is going to be amended, the only question is by whom?)
To: 6ppc
Since she is of legal age there is not much you can do other than try to appeal to her sensibilities.
None of us can judge what this man is or what he will do, that is he may turn out to be very nice.She should be made aware of the treatment of women and female children in Muslim countries and culture.
If this man intends to take her to a middle eastern country she should know that she and her children will not be allowed to leave to visit family unless her husband allows it.
It probably won`t do any good to be confrontational.She is an adult by all measures.I`m sure it will be hard, but hopefully treating her as such and making sure she has all the facts of a Muslim culture will avert a heartbreaking situation for her,future children and you.
31 posted on
12/10/2004 6:39:38 PM PST by
carlr
To: 6ppc
Have one of her close friends help you out. I'm sure if you can speak frankly to them about the situation logically you can convince them to help. (I Hope)
To: 6ppc
Get that desparate soul to
read here for a taste of her future life.
39 posted on
12/10/2004 6:50:45 PM PST by
xJones
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