Posted on 12/04/2004 12:32:46 AM PST by Antioch
The Treblinka Threads: DUmmies plot strategy for the Republican Final Solution!
Behind the Aegis (809 posts) My partner and I do not have [an escape plan]. Now, I am starting to have a real sense of fear. The saddest thing is my family is willfully ignorant and think I am being "silly." I wonder how they will feel if I am shipped off? They didn't want me leaving the country because I would be too far. If I am in a camp or dead, I think that would be harder for them to contact me then if I was in England!
48pan (11 posts) The 2nd amendment doesn't have anything to do with hunting. It has to do with revolution and protecting onesself from the government. It appears to be time for progressives to start arming themselves. Godess knows the right wing is armed.
GarySeven (274 posts) So, you want to know how this would work? Easy. If you criticize the president, you're Gay. If you're Gay, you have to go to the camps. See US Constitution, 316th Amendment (B). Look - all that has to happen is someone SAYS you're Gay. They won't REQUIRE proof. Someone who has a problem with you at work can just say you're Gay; an ex-lover (female or otherwise) can "denounce" you if they're pissed. If they decree Gays and Lesbians are part of an anti-American organization they can do ANYTHING under the Patriot Act and you will literally disappear. For-ev-er.
Behind the Aegis (809 posts) It is possible! It was done in this country only 40 years ago! Neighbor turning in neighbor, others naming their former partners after torture or promises of a "lesser" sentence. First, you dehumanize the victim, then you strip their rights, then you can do just about anything you want! There are people in Camp Xray who have been there for THREE years with no legal representation because someone else named them as a possible terrorist!
neebob (1000+ posts) Ashcroft announced a plan for camps, and not only did he keep his job for two more years, but it never made the TV news ... or if it did, I certainly don't remember it. The fact that he kept his job means he wasn't the only one who thinks it's a good idea. It wasn't just Ashcroft, drunk with power, floating a crazy idea. The plan still exists, and the planners have four more years in which to roll it out.
eadmoreoften (133 posts) All I can do is hope we'll be safe for awhile Honestly, I wake up with panic attacks in the middle of the night now.
Newsjock (1000+ posts) I pray for the first lawyer who successfully gets political asylum in another country for a gay client. The floodgates will open, and I for one will not be the least bit ashamed to take my money, my knowledge, my heritage out of this country that no longer accepts my right to exist in full equality with my fellow citizens.
Behind the Aegis (809 posts) Now, we need to get other gays to stop worrying about who they will f*ck next or what so-and-so is wearing and realize their rights are evaporating! Allies won't be able to help much, if we can't get our own damn community to step up for itself!
readmoreoften (133 posts) I think we'll be used as a wedge against other progressives, so that hetero progs have to spend so much time defending us that they'll be more likely to miss the neo-cons more financially rewarding dastardly deeds. I suspect that there will be 'harsher penalties' for gays over the age of 21 to be sexually active with people under 21. So we'll see 25 year olds given jail sentences for dating 19 year olds. If a 25 year old man dates a 17 year old they will be executed.
HereSince1628 (1000+ posts) There were a fair number of Nazi's with Jewish ancestors which they diligently attempted to hide... But, human nature as we know it suggests that... something as large as 30% of the population is or has been engaged in homosexual relationships at some time in their life. I am not sure that the number of Nazi's that were Jewish EVER reached such proportions. The thing about homosexuality is that you can try to hide it (if you are careful), and you can repress its expression (if you are disciplined) [but] it can [lead] to absolute self-denial and into the possibility of mental illness.
Behind the Aegis (809 posts) ...They are laying the ground work! They are stripping gays of rights and liberties. They are doing it slowly...for now! If the Shrub appoints another conservative, we stand the chance that Lawrence v. Texas will be overturned and gays will be allowed to be prosecuted for CONSENSUAL, private sex. This is how it works. Strip the group of its humanity, strip them of their rights, then, you can do as you please. We will be 're-educated' once our rights have been stripped completely. Hell, there are people who are calling for the damn death penalty for gays!
mr_anderson334 (6 posts) Its obvious that it will start its a pattern that we've seen in Nazi Germany. when a country starts to get in economic turmoil the leadership blames a small group of people and scapegoat them. if its not the gays that will get sent to camps it will be the intellectuals or the minorities or any other group the evil empire sees fit to persecute
leesa (1000+ posts) Don't worry, you won't be alone...all liberals and intellectuals, Muslims, probably Jews and blacks will keep you company.
readmoreoften (133 posts) I would imagine your sister is not transgendered in any way, shape, or form and probably doesn't associate with any transgendered people (including hard butch lesbians)... Your sister will probably be fine. It's my partner that will be beaten to death. It's not just a 'gay' issue, it's also a class issue and a gender expression issue.
foreigncorrespondent (1000+ posts) If they get the FMA passed, which Bush* has said will happen next year. And Musgrave has said she would reintroduce it, then there won't be any stopping them. All the rights the LGBT community currently enjoy, will be gone. They believe we are unnatural and need to be cleansed of our impurity, so you bet your bottom dollar a lot of us can see "cleansing camps" being set up. They truly believe that they can turn a gay person straight by using torture on them.
The LGBT community is made up of thousands of people who prefer to know where their next sexual conquest is coming from, rather than paying attention to what is happening with the lawmakers. When they come knocking on their doors, it will be sadly too late, for all of us.
JohnOneillsMemory (1000+ posts) In 1984 Reagan signed an executive order (REX84) authorizing the opening of the old Japanese internment camps. FEMA was authorized to take over the entire country in case of national disaster. 9/11 allowed Our Torture 'president' to enact portions of REX84 allowing him to do some terrible stuff. Which he certainly is doing.
JohnOneillsMemory (1000+ posts) REX84 authorized FEMA to set up the camps. THEY ARE REAL.
Behind the Aegis (809 posts) Why is this not in the news? Where is the ACLU? The difference is that Arabs and Muslims will have the support of other nations, gays will not get the same support!
Swamp Rat (1000+ posts) Maybe they will do something different than round people up, like allow X-tian fundie homo-hunters to get a license to hunt and kill gay people within city limits. I have personally met people that want to hold public executions of gay people.
JohnOneillsMemory (1000+ posts) I'm a straight who saw Nazi camp photos when I was six and that experience has framed how I see my species since that day. I've told my Christian homophobe father that I'd get on a bus full of gays before a bus full of Christians because gays know what it is to be crucified while Christians are more likely to provide the nails.
ever_green (399 posts) FEMA has camps all across the nation now and more are being built. But it can't happen HERE right?! I bet that's what the Jews said in Nazi Germany....
fertilizeonarbusto (1000+ posts) Like most gays killed in the Holocaust by the Nazis I won't make it to the camps. I'll make them shoot me on the street in front of God and everyone-and I'll endeavor to take a couple of them with me too.
MsConduct (643 posts) I've seen that almost anything can happen here. Didn't know about the FEMA camps. Thanks for the info.
AuntJen (81 posts) Let's start a Railroad of a different kind. I think it's probably getting close to time now for those of us in safe areas where people aren't buying this bull to start offering space in our homes, rides out, and help to gay and lesbian people who are living in unsafe areas. How about it?
mitchtv (1000+ posts) I am Californian , so I expect to have a little extra time. 65 miles from the border here
Buddyblazon (240 posts) I will stand beside you....I am a straight male. But if it comes to the point of rounding gays and lesbians up...know that I will fight for and with you. And I am not alone.
Dem2theMax (1000+ posts) Another straight female Christian here. I'll be standing on line with the rest of you. Supporting anyone who needs it.
nickinSTL (966 posts) But if they start that, I'll be out there protesting, and they can damn well take me to the camps, too, for all I care. Viggo Mortensen as Aragorn: "If by my life or death, I can protect you, I will...You have my sword."
Well send in the Omega Force and round them up during the night I guess...
Halt!...Your papers please...
A lot of drama queens over there.
How much lower can these morons sink? They are truely pathetic creatures.
Now where did I put that dart gun with knock out medicine again?
Mental illness,...delusional thinking and paranoia is an ugly and painful thing to watch.
Indeed. Sean Hannity had some guy on yesterday who was running therapy sessions for these losers. He sounded like HE needed some therapy *LOL*
I posted the article about PEST therapy in Florida on another small politics board associated with a large board concerned with trials..It is all "hate Bush" all the time, several Canadians wringing their hands, some Nova Scotians who attended the protest this week.
.My title "HELP is Available!"(There are 3 Bush supporters on the board..I drop by with "appropriate" articles..The lefties cannot hear or see..."US approves of torture.".and "recount in Ohio" are main topics.They compare as the same the Ukraine election fraud and the US..pathetic!
48pan (11 posts) The 2nd amendment doesn't have anything to do with hunting. It has to do with revolution and protecting onesself from the government. It appears to be time for progressives to start arming themselves. Godess knows the right wing is armed.
To the teeth 48pan, to the teeth.
5.56mm
They give themselves too much credit. Gays are like a flea on a dog. An annoyance but not life threatening. Just don't try to inflict their beliefs on the majority. I think the eleven states who voted on the gay marriage issue sent a loud and clear message.
Glad you asked. Here's my take on these (narcissistic) sickos:
Personality disorders are pervasive chronic psychological disorders, which can greatly affect a person's life. Having a personality disorder can negatively affect one's work, one's family, and one's social life. Personality disorders exists on a continuum so they can be mild to more severe in terms of how pervasive and to what extent a person exhibits the features of a particular personality disorder. While most people can live pretty normal lives with mild personality disorders (or more simply, personality traits), during times of increased stress or external pressures (work, family, a new relationship, etc.), the symptoms of the personality disorder will gain strength and begin to seriously interfere with their emotional and psychological functioning.
Narcissistic Personality Disorder
A pervasive pattern of grandiosity (in fantasy or behavior), need for admiration, and lack of empathy, beginning by early adulthood and present in a variety of contexts, as indicated by five (or more) of the following:
- has a grandiose sense of self-importance (e.g., exaggerates achievements and talents, expects to be recognized as superior without commensurate achievements)
- is preoccupied with fantasies of unlimited success, power, brilliance, beauty, or ideal love
- believes that he or she is "special" and unique and can only be understood by, or should associate with, other special or high-status people (or institutions) requires excessive admiration
- has a sense of entitlement, i.e., unreasonable expectations of especially favorable treatment or automatic compliance with his or her expectations
- is interpersonally exploitative, i.e., takes advantage of others to achieve his or her own ends
- lacks empathy: is unwilling to recognize or identify with the feelings and needs of others
- is often envious of others or believes that others are envious of him or her
- shows arrogant, haughty behaviors or attitudes
(http://mentalhelp.net/poc/center_index.php?id=8)
Terminal moroninism
(Pounding on door and talking like Colonel Klink) "YOU VILL OPEN ZISS DOOR NOW OR BE SHOT!!! VEE HAFF MANY VAYSSS TO MAKE YOU COOPERATE!!!!"
They have nothing to fear. They have inalienable rights to speak out, demand, work for, move "beyond being Americans," become citizens of the world, blame America for all the world's problems, side with enemies of America, march against America and for "social justice" and bring about their view of what America's world role ought to be.
We have inalienable rights to protect America from them.
A clash of inalienable rights.
I think that means civil war. Leave the fighting to the professionals. I intend to cower until it is over and our enemies within have been destroyed. It's the inner war within the larger world war.
Now they can fear.
(We shoulda done it in the late 1960s)
And there are terrorists being captured in 'Stan after being released from Camp Xray. They went back to the fight.
Morons.
Yep.
Yeah, I thought about Narcissistic Personality Disorder, but I think this sounds closer.
Paranoid Personality Disorder as a pervasive distrust and suspiciousness of others such that their motives are interpreted as malevolent, beginning by early adulthood and present in a variety of contexts, as indicated by 4 (or more) of the following:
* suspects, without sufficient basis, that others are exploiting, harming, or deceiving him or her; (i.e. Diebold officials, Cheney)
* is preoccupied with unjustified doubts about the loyalty or trustworthiness of friends or associates (i.e. Bev Harris banned on DU)
* is reluctant to confide in others because of unwarranted fear that the information will be used maliciously against him or her; (Tom Ridge and Patriot act)
* reads hidden demeaning or threatening meanings into benign remarks or events; (Bush: "I believe marriage is between a man and a woman...")
* persistently bears grudges, i.e., is unforgiving of insults , injuries, or slights perceives attacks on his or her character or reputation that are not apparent to others (Sore/Loserman- Florida 2000)
Behaviors
Solitariness, poor peer relationships,underachievement in school, hypersensitivity, peculiar thoughts and language
Difficulty in handling stress, defensiveness, deviousness, deceptions, disloyalty, maliciousness
Litigiousness
I did laugh when I read this--I have been hearing the concentration camp for gays routine since 1977 when I became a 19 year old NOW member. This is nothing new, and it certainly did not start with GWB. Well it's been almost thirty years and I still don't see barbed wire compounds being built. Get a grip, guys. (no pun intended)
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