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DU MeltDown Begins: MUST READ THIS!
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Posted on 11/03/2004 12:13:02 PM PST by sonsofliberty2000

I honestly never expected that I would be posting this. Even when the campaign was going terribly, I was somehow able to remain optimistic that the American people would do the right thing. I couldn't let myself feel any other way; the alternative was just too depressing to imagine. But It looks like my faith in the wisdom of the American people was misplaced this time.

But I still have faith in the members of DU. This is an amazing group of people. You have been a great source of sanity and support during the last four years. This election loss heralds the beginning of a new era on DU. People are angry and depressed, and rightly so. I fear that things might get pretty ugly on this discussion forum for a while, but I remain confident that we will eventually pull through this, just like we always do.

This is a pretty diverse group of people, and it's clear that people are going to deal with this election defeat in different ways. Some members are going to come to DU looking for a shoulder to cry on. Others are going to come here looking for a fight. Still others may have completely different feelings entirely. We believe that it is understandible and healthy for people to feel angry or sad or whatever. We do not think it is possible for us to force people to deny their feelings right now, and we're not even going to try (except in the most extreme cases). However, it is clear that certain types of emotions do no mix well on a busy message board like this one. We have decided that the only feasible solution is to enforce a segregation between the people who want a shoulder to cry on, and the people who want an ass to kick.

With this in mind, the two General Discussion forums have been re-named. The "General Discussion: Help and Support" forum is for those people who are looking for help and support. If you feel sad, or if you are the type of person who thinks that we're all in this together, then that is the forum for you. But if you are feeling very angry about the election, or if you are feeling like pointing fingers and placing blame, you should post in the other GD forum, the "General Discussion: Fighting and Acrimony" forum.

We know that it is not possible to make everyone happy, but we hope that this rough split will provide people with a choice so you can decide what type of message board experience that you need right now. All you have to do is decide which forum to post your topic in. I think everyone here is capable of making that choice.

Please be aware that the moderators will still be enforcing the message board rules, including the rules against personal attacks and flame bait. We expect all of our members to continue to observe the message board rules. And we want to remind everyone that we are all still on the same side here. You may be angry, but remember that the people here are supposed to be your friends and allies.

And if you ever feel so angry that you want to disrupt or pick fights, or deliberately piss people off, I strongly advise that you turn off your computer and turn off the cable news and go do something else that will make you feel better. Nobody ever got banned from DU because they took a break.

This sucks, but we will get through it. I love this place, and I have great faith in the members here to pull through this.

Hang in there.

David Allen
Skinner
DU Admin


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To: TexasCowboy

How much a case? Got some Lib co-workers I'd like to pass one out to.....great pic!!


101 posted on 11/03/2004 12:51:04 PM PST by RSmithOpt (Liberalism: Highway to Hell)
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To: TexasCowboy

It's the Asian way.............


102 posted on 11/03/2004 12:52:17 PM PST by RSmithOpt (Liberalism: Highway to Hell)
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To: sonsofliberty2000
Remember these people. They're melting down now, but they'll be completely confused later!


103 posted on 11/03/2004 12:53:04 PM PST by Lady Jag (YAHOOO!!!)
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To: steveegg; Bitter Bierce; Stellar Dendrite

Will ping when posted. If I miss anybody, just do a search on "Opus" ordered by post time.


104 posted on 11/03/2004 12:53:15 PM PST by Bloody Sam Roberts (Four......More......Years!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts
Ping me!

Patriot Paradox

105 posted on 11/03/2004 12:54:03 PM PST by sonsofliberty2000 (4 More Years!)
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To: sonsofliberty2000

Already have you on my list buddy!


106 posted on 11/03/2004 12:54:44 PM PST by Bloody Sam Roberts (Four......More......Years!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)
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To: Petronski

"Maybe they ought to set aside the hate and look inward at how they and their party have failed...and why."

I don't expect them to do so. In my humble opinion the current Democratic party is composed of those who refuse to face reality, they are embracing socialist, even communist, ideals which have been shown to fail miserably every time they are tried, the only way to believe in Marxism is to ignore the past. I expect the party to continue on its present course until it becomes totally irrelevant, unless the rest of America decides to join them in the rush to destruction. We have far too much government and the next four years should show whether we have truly learned anything. If there is not a real movement to reduce government in these nest four years there is no hope left for this country regardless of whether the administration replacing Bush is called Republican or Democrat.


107 posted on 11/03/2004 12:56:26 PM PST by RipSawyer ("Embed" Michael Moore with the 82nd airborne.)
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To: Lady Jag
Man, how could those guys be wrong? They even sport those "smarty pants" glasses that people like Jeanine Garofolo wear...


108 posted on 11/03/2004 12:57:59 PM PST by smith288 (I have posted over 10,000 times. The more I post, the more intelligent you become!)
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To: RipSawyer

Agreed. Great take.


109 posted on 11/03/2004 12:58:20 PM PST by Petronski (Kerry cannot have lost....the Redskins won on Sunday!)
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To: been_lurking

"Classic! Lot's of words about feelings and emotions. Not much common sense or rational thought."


Only those who expect foxes to show kind concern for rabbits should expect common sense or rational thought from those who supported John Kerry. Anyone who possessed those qualities long ago saw through the facade of Kerry to the emptiness behind his eyes.


110 posted on 11/03/2004 1:01:50 PM PST by RipSawyer ("Embed" Michael Moore with the 82nd airborne.)
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To: OrioleFan

OMG....the DU crowd deserves socialism! I think they should all pack up and move to Scandanavia! Of course, on the other hand, I think Scandanavia might be getting such a dose of the downside of socialism that they might be ready to head toward something better. Did you know that the illegimate birth rate is something like 50% there? Similar to our black illegitimate birth rate. Good Lord, I had hoped my relatives on the other side of the pond had more sense then that, but apparently not!


111 posted on 11/03/2004 1:01:53 PM PST by MistyCA (Sign the Form 180, Kerry!)
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To: smith288
Why is it whenever I see a group of Rats I flash to the Starwars Bar scene??

Thank God for W and Our Election

112 posted on 11/03/2004 1:03:16 PM PST by bray (Nam Vets Rock!!)
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To: smith288
Don't you know? Those are self-proclaimed "Inttuluctials" from Cambridge, one of the most dangerous sub species on earth.
113 posted on 11/03/2004 1:05:22 PM PST by Lady Jag (YAHOOO!!!)
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To: MistyCA

They won't leave because they haven't realized that Liberalism is dead.


114 posted on 11/03/2004 1:07:20 PM PST by OrioleFan (Republicans believe every day is July 4th, DemocRATs believe every day is April 15th. - Reagan)
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To: bray

are these guys young??? it makes me feel kind of sorry for them. alot of them are totally duped and brainwashed -- by public school, college, and heaven forbid, grad school. they HAVE NOT seen the light--really. their perspective is so myopic and they feel like their world is falling apart (which it isn't).

when i was that age, i fell for Kerry's lies, and marched against the war. it wasn't until i was older and exposed to more info that i "saw the light".

i would actually like the opportunity to sit and talk to some of these little rabid rats. kindness might go a long way. or then not...


115 posted on 11/03/2004 1:07:46 PM PST by applpie
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To: Landru; evets
hahahaaaaaa!

I'm still revelling in Dubya's BIG VICTORY!!! YAY!!!

America is NO SPAIN!

Oh, and da$$hole losing to Thune??:

How SWEET it is !!

He is .....


Saddened, deeply saddened . . .

Bu-bye, ar$ehole!!


116 posted on 11/03/2004 1:09:49 PM PST by MeekOneGOP (There is only one GOOD 'RAT: one that has been voted OUT of POWER !! Straight ticket GOP!)
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts
just do a search on "Opus"

Okay, now what?

117 posted on 11/03/2004 1:10:34 PM PST by Lady Jag (YAHOOO!!!)
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To: RetiredArmy

I love your tagline, thank you for your service to America, I am still smarting from the fact that Kerry was even in the same branch of service as myself. It is a tragic shame that the glorious history of the United States Navy should have been stained by this $&%*.


118 posted on 11/03/2004 1:11:10 PM PST by RipSawyer ("Embed" Michael Moore with the 82nd airborne.)
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To: Lady Jag

HAHAHAHAHA


119 posted on 11/03/2004 1:14:08 PM PST by glock rocks ( W 1)
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To: Lady Jag
BWAAAHAHAHAAAAA!!!
((Too bad DUers can't laugh anymore))
/gloat
120 posted on 11/03/2004 1:14:55 PM PST by RandallFlagg (Four More Years of Killing Terrorists! WOO-HOO!!!!)
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