Posted on 09/30/2004 10:11:47 PM PDT by Jack Black
I watched the debates with four friends. One an extreme Kerry supporter. He was appoplectic over Kerry's performance. Kerry's inabilty to look into the camera, his addressing thing to "Jim" while Bush addressed us. I called a friend who watched seperately and he felt Bush clearly won (Gore voter in 2000).
What a difference a 1/2 hour makes. Dem spin meisters are machines. Kerry could have passed out at the podium and they would have been praising him.
Look who's on. MS-NBC has Ronnie who loves his new found role as enfant-terrible of the left. He loudly calls Kerry the winner.
Howard Feinman from the left news outlet Newsweek: Kerry.
Sadly, Joe Scarboro loudly declares "Kerry won the debate".
CNN has already made up it's mind. Kerry won. But in case your not sure they have Terry Mac on to remind you. Up to provide balance so low-power Republican you've never heard of looking like a dear in the headlights.
Fox had Greta, a not so closet liberal. Cici - clearly a Kerry supporter. For balance they have Bill Kristol. Now I enjoy Kristol a lot but he is a real intellectual, not a partisan message pounder.
I think Bush won the debate. But the liberal media is gleeful in blatently throwing the results to Kerry. Fox works to live up to it's motto: fair and balanced.
No where do you see rabid patisan Democratic spinners couterbalanced by hard core Republican supporters.
In this way the TV media has come in by a vote of 5 to 1 for Kerry as the winner.
Pathetic.
Make no mistake. The main stream media is our enemy. They came out in force with their over-the-top Kerry message. They shameless set up unbalanced match ups. They delivered the verdict they knew they were going to deliver. Kerry won.
If Kerry had walked off the stage and quit for the night. The lieing lib media would say he WON !!!!!! BELIEVE IT BECAUSE IT IS TRUE.
Sorry...Kerry did win the debate, based upon expectations...many were expecting Bush to deliver a knockout...many expected Kerry to be....well, Kerry.
Bush did fine. Kerry came off pompus. Bush maintains his lead in the polls.
I think that Kerry won on debating points, but Bush had more memorable lines, such as asking Kerry if our allies would send troops to the wrong war at the wrong place at the wrong time. The Weekly Standard has an official debate scorecard (http://www.weeklystandard.com) and put it at a 9-9 draw.
The substance that shakes out in the next few days is what will matter. Kerry lied, misled and his policies are wrong. Lehrer was a horrible moderator who didn't ask any tough questions of Kerry on his Senate record. Those are the stories and that is the message. Bush didn't deliver a knockout tonight, but Kerry did nothing to reverse his fortune. In fact, he may have given Bush, Rove and Cheney enough rope to hang him with.
Rush nailed it early. The MSM is playing right into it. Kerry won the polls are closing blahaaaa. Nobody will remember weeks to come. When you lie you do not have to pause. When you have BOTOX you have no facial expressions.
Debates mean squat...Substance is already defined..Bush 56%, Kerry 43%...
Kerry spanked Bush? Who's the partisan?
>>Kerry's inabilty to look into the camera<<
This is why I think those that actually watched the debate (maybe 50 people not counting the media and those of us here on FR) will think that Bush did well and Kerry didn't.
If they can't see your eyes, they don't trust you.
Where were all the expectations. I did not hear all the Pres. Bush will win? I heard the opposite. What knock out punch?
And there's the expected Tokyo Rose's like you.
No, apparently Vanities won the post-debate debate...
The post debate debate lasts for 48 to 72 hours. Don't declare a winner yet.
Gonna make a point to hear his opening monolog tommorrow.
The partisan media would have come out for Kerry even if he fell short. Let's face it, they're in the tank for Kerry and want to see him win. They just have a bad candidate who keeps saying stupid things and is plain unlikeable. President Bush WILL be re-elected. Trust me, in the cold of light of day, after the glow of the evening's warmth has faded, they will not be happy campers.
Kerry did win the debate. The only way he lost it is if someone were to actually examine the substance of what he said and realize it's pure crap. That will happen eventually, but right now the focus is on style and polish and Kerry won that hands down.
He actually did win the debate. Before he lost it.
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