[VisualizeSmallerGovernment]

Kerry did win the debate. The only way he lost it is if someone were to actually examine the substance of what he said and realize it's pure crap. That will happen eventually, but right now the focus is on style and polish and Kerry won that hands down.

He actually did win the debate. Before he lost it.

[Oreo Kookey]

"Kerry did win the debate. The only way he lost it is if someone were to actually examine the substance of what he said and realize it's pure crap. That will happen eventually, but right now the focus is on style and polish and Kerry won that hands down.

He actually did win the debate. Before he lost it"

I couldn't agree with you more. The way he will lose is when the superficial part is stripped out and the substance of what Kerry droned is highlighted, hashed out, ground up and stated side by side with his lies and flip flops. He is a loser of the Nth degree.