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Kerry Missed the "Big Picture" in tonight's debate
Pastabagel.com ^ | 10/1/04 | pastabagel

Posted on 09/30/2004 9:52:58 PM PDT by Without Barbarians

Kerry missed the big picture in the debate tonight. He looked good and spoke well, etc., but he lost the debate of ideas. To kerry, the war on terror is about bin laden and only bin laden. This article hits it on the head:

He sees the events of 9-11 as an isolated attack by a madman, rather than the culmination of attacks on the west that begin at least with the 1972 attack by Palestinian militants on Israeli athletes and proceeds with the overthrow of the Shah in Iran and the taking of US hostages, the assassination of Anwar Sadat, the bombing of the Marine barracks in Lebanon in 1983, he hijacking of countless transatlantic flights in the 1980s, the bombing of discos and cafes in Europe by Libya, the bombing of Pan Am 103, to the 1993 World Trade Center bombing, the bombing of the African embassies, the bombing of barracks in Saudi Arabia, the attack on the USS Cole, the thwarted Millennium attack, culminating finally with the 9-11 attacks. This is the history of this war. The war did not begin on 9-11, that’s just when we decided to fight back.

Kerry doesn’t realize this, or he doesn’t want to frame the war in these terms. By focusing on bin Laden, it allows him the prospect of declaring victory in the War on Terror if and when bin Laden is killed or captured. But this will not end the war any more than the death of Ayatollah Khomeni ended the theocracy in Iran. So for Kerry, Iraq is a distraction, because it widens the war to a global scale, thus setting the bar for victory much higher.

But the war is global. The Arab world and worldview needs radical change. For years, Muslim nations in the Middle East have considered themselves untouchable by the West. By invading Iraq, Bush has shattered that mindset. What we are seeing in Iraq is radical Islam trying to reinvent itself around the humiliation of capitulating to quickly and so easily to a Western power. They claim the attacks in Iraq are because of the occupation. Kerry tacitly agrees with this position, because he cites troops deaths and beheadings as signs that America is less safe as a result of the invasion. But if the terrorists are to be believed that they fight because of the occupation, then why did they fight us for decades before.

The rest is here.

The Bush team must drive this point home in the coming weeks, and Cheney needs to hit it on Tuesday.


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KEYWORDS: debates; firstdebate; kerry; politics; stillavanity; vanitybyanyothername

1 posted on 09/30/2004 9:52:58 PM PDT by Without Barbarians
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To: Without Barbarians; Admin Moderator

And this is Breaking News why????


2 posted on 09/30/2004 9:55:25 PM PDT by Howlin (What's the Font Spacing, Kenneth?)
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To: Without Barbarians
> He sees the events of 9-11 as an isolated attack by a madman

Yes. Precisely. I noticed that also. If the RNC and conservative commentators are smart, they can spend the next month hammering AWC Kerry on this.

That, added to building up his "global test" criterion, should be enough to bury him.

3 posted on 09/30/2004 9:57:30 PM PDT by NewJerseyJoe (Rat mantra: "Facts are meaningless! You can use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true!")
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To: Howlin

Because Jim Robinson said we could all post a vanity tonight, and put it in Breaking News if it was about the debate...

Unless Jim was kidding... ;0)


4 posted on 09/30/2004 9:57:39 PM PDT by Chad Fairbanks (How do you ask a hamster to be the last hamster to die for a mistake?)
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To: Chad Fairbanks

We need a training session around here.


5 posted on 09/30/2004 9:58:10 PM PDT by Howlin (What's the Font Spacing, Kenneth?)
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To: Howlin

Hey, kiddo!

What are your thoughts on the debate tonight?


6 posted on 09/30/2004 9:58:53 PM PDT by patriciaruth (They are all Mike Spanns)
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To: Without Barbarians

Good point on the evolution of the terrorist attack on the West and Israel. It took a Pearl Harbor type terrorist attack to finally wake us up when we should have nipped in its' infancy. I think 29 years of turning the other cheek was being more than patient. It almost bordered on the criminal.


7 posted on 09/30/2004 10:00:59 PM PDT by MadAnthony1776
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To: Howlin

Yup... I'm still having a problem with pooping on threads. But, eventually with guidance, love, support, and maybe a few whacks with a rolled-up newspaper, I'll be good to go!


8 posted on 09/30/2004 10:02:13 PM PDT by Chad Fairbanks (How do you ask a hamster to be the last hamster to die for a mistake?)
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To: Howlin

Is it just me or has FR gotten slly tonight? Worthless repetitive vanities, handwringing, and fewer regulars than usual.


9 posted on 09/30/2004 10:02:26 PM PDT by Cosmo (I'm the pajamahadeen, and I vote!)
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To: Cosmo

Tonight? You're being kind, aren't you?


10 posted on 09/30/2004 10:03:02 PM PDT by Howlin (What's the Font Spacing, Kenneth?)
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To: Without Barbarians

Arggh. This should be in bloggers, not news. Why can't post authors edit the category? I realized it two seconds after I hit post. Grr.


11 posted on 09/30/2004 10:15:08 PM PDT by Without Barbarians
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To: Without Barbarians
He is the idiot salesman - we will do it smarter, better and quicker. Whatever you need done mame, we will do it and quick. He's got an obsession about getting things done quick. Quick is not always better or possible. To get the job done quick he tells you you need less done than you really need done. Your house is infested with cockroaches and he'd come in with a can of Off mosquito spray, 5 minutes later - "I'm done in 5 minutes, you are all set - no bugs. I am better than all the rest - see!"
12 posted on 09/30/2004 10:16:34 PM PDT by Esther Ruth (Rumble Rumble Rumble)
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To: Howlin

Seriously, it seems worse tonight, especially given the occasion and the added scarcity of bandwidth.

Oh well I hate to play thread cop.


13 posted on 09/30/2004 10:18:27 PM PDT by Cosmo (I'm the pajamahadeen, and I vote!)
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To: Cosmo

Well, that's why -- the debate. Not everybody here is a "friendly."


14 posted on 09/30/2004 10:28:10 PM PDT by Howlin (What's the Font Spacing, Kenneth?)
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To: patriciaruth

I don't think it was as bad as some people did, now that I have read some articles, seen some documented Kerry lies, and calmed down a little bit. :-)

I think it was probably a tie.


15 posted on 09/30/2004 10:33:23 PM PDT by Howlin (What's the Font Spacing, Kenneth?)
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To: Howlin

Because EVERYTHING IS BREAKING NEWS!!!


AND IT'S HUGH!!!


AND VEY SERIES!!!!


And no, I haven't been drinking.






Stop looking at me that way.




What?!


16 posted on 09/30/2004 10:35:25 PM PDT by Redcloak (Vikings plundered my last tag line.)
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To: Without Barbarians
Kerry was a master of details, but I could not figure out what the larger picture is from him, muchless the more intermediate goals and themes. The data he vomited was almost a distraction from trying to get a sense of who the man really is and what his overall world viewpoint is. Does this guy have a soul or is he just a walking Google search?

Much like Bush 41, it is really Kerry who suffers from the "vision thing". Whether he has one or not, he can't seem to communicate what it is (besides he was a soldier in Vietnam...enough already).

17 posted on 09/30/2004 10:39:21 PM PDT by MHT
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To: MHT
Does this guy have a soul or is he just a walking Google search?

:::chuckle:::
What a great tag line.
May I borrow it just for tonight, if I promise not to
spill anything on it?

18 posted on 09/30/2004 11:05:17 PM PDT by b9 ("Does this guy have a soul or is he just a walking Google search?" MHT)
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To: Chad Fairbanks

19 posted on 09/30/2004 11:06:20 PM PDT by DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet (The police never think it's as funny as you do.)
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To: DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet

Heh heh heh


20 posted on 10/01/2004 7:38:59 AM PDT by Chad Fairbanks (How do you ask a hamster to be the last hamster to die for a mistake?)
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