Posted on 09/19/2004 8:38:35 PM PDT by grace522
IF YOU ARE A KERRY FAN PLEASE READ THIS... YOU MAY NOT WANT TO BELIEVE IT, AND YOU WILL NOT LIKE IT, BUT YOU CAN CHECK THE RECORDS.. I know there's a lot of these going around, but this one is verrrrry interesting.... > [Original Message] Subject: Kerry's Military Record? Oh What a Tangled Web He Weaves...
Now that the Kerry team has again raised the issue of President Bush service in the Texas Air National Guard they should be held to answer the question below outlined by Mr. Steve Nash, US Navy, Retired. If Kerry would release all of his Military records, this issue could be put to bed.
"Steve" Nash, MAC Ret, UDT/SEAL Authentication Team -Director
Authentin SEAL Phone 707 438 0120 "The only service where all investigators are US Navy Seals" http://www.authentiseal.org
Military Record
Unlike McCain, Bush, and Gore,,,, Kerry has adamantly refused to authorize the release of his military records. Most think it'because of his phony battle medals. I think the real reason is below. He was not granted an Honorable Discharge until March 2001, almost 30 years after his ostensible service term had ended!
This is very much out of the ordinary, and highly suspect. There are 5 classes of Discharge: Honorable, General, Other Than Honorable, Bad Conduct,and Dishonorable.
My guess is that he was Discharged in the '70s, but not Honorably. He appealed this sometime while Clinton was in the Oval Office; Political pressure was applied, and the Honorable Discharge was then granted. His file is probably rife with reports of this, submissions and hearings on the appeal, reports of his "giving aid and comfort" to the enemy, along with protests that were filed with respect to his alleged valor under fire.
This will blow up in his face before October 15th. ================================================================
On 18 Feb. 1966 John Kerry signed a 6 year enlistment contract with the Navy (plus a 6-month extension during wartime). On 18 Feb. 1966 John Kerry also signed an Officer Candidate contract for 6 years -- 5 years of ACTIVE duty & ACTIVE Naval Reserves, and 1 year of inactive standby reserves (See items #4 & $5). Because John Kerry was discharged from TOTAL ACTIVE DUTY of only 3 years and 18 days on 3 Jan. 1970, he was then required to attend 48 drills per year,and not more than 17 days active duty for training. Kerry was also subject to the Uniform Code of Military Justice. Additionally, Kerry, as a commissioned officer, was prohibited from making adverse statements against his chain of command or statements against his country,especially during time of war. It is also interesting to note that Kerry did not obtain an honorable discharge until Mar. 12, 2001 even though his service obligation should have ended July 1, 1972.
Lt. John Kerry's letter of 21 Nov. 1969 asking for an early release from active US Navy duty falsely states "My current regular period of obligated service would be completed in December of this year."
On Jan. 3, 1970 Lt. John Kerry was transferred to the Naval Reserve Manpower Center in Bainridge, Maryland.. Where are Kerry's Performance Records for 2 years of obligated Ready Reserve, the 48 drills per year required and his not more than 17 days of active duty per year training while Kerry was in the Ready Reserves? Have these records been released? Has anyone ever talked to Kerry's Commanding Officer at the Naval Reserve Center where Kerry drilled?
On 1 July 1972 Lt. John Kerry was transferred to Standby Reserve Inactive.
On 16 February 1978 Lt. John Kerry was discharged from US Naval Reserve.
Below are some of the crimes Lt. Kerry USNR committed as a Ready Reservist, while he was acting as a leader of Vietnam Veterans Against the War:
1. Lt. Kerry attended many rallies where the Vietcong flag was displayed while our flag was desecrated, defiled, and mocked, thereby giving aid and comfort to the enemy.
2. Lt. Kerry was involved in a meeting that voted on assassinating members of the US Senate.
3. Lt. Kerry lied under oath against fellow soldiers before the US Senate about crimes committed in Vietnam.
4. Lt. Kerry professed to being a war criminal on national television, and condemned the military and the USA.
5. Lt Kerry met with NVA and Vietcong communist leaders in Paris, in direct violation of the UCMJ and the U.S. Constitution.
Lt. Kerry by his own words & actions violated the UCMJ and the U.S.Code while serving as a Navy officer. Lt. Kerry stands in violation of Article 3, Section 3 of the U.S. Constitution. Lt. Kerry's 1970 meeting with NVA Communists in Paris is in direct violation of the UCMJ's Article 104 part 904, and U.S Code 18 U.S.C. 953. That meeting, and Kerry's subsequent support of the communists while leading mass protests against our military in the year that followed, also place him in direct violation of our Constitution's Article 3, Section 3, which defines treason as "giving aid and comfort" to the enemy in time of warfare.
The Constitution's Fourteenth Amendment, Section 3, states, "No person shall be a Senator or Representative in Congress, or elector of President and Vice-President having previously taken an oath to support the Constitution of the United States, [who has] engaged in insurrection or rebellion against the same, or given aid or comfort to the enemies thereof." ...........................................end..............
I want to know who was the military brass that ultimately approved this. Probably some careerist dickhead who couldn't get a promotion any other way.
Wait. What about the discharge that was issued in 1978 at the pleasure of President Carter? It says it was honorable. I do not, however, think it was a Naval Discharge. I think it was a general honorable discharge.
The media is totally SILENT on Kerry's military records, aren't they? Not a PEEP!Bush signed the standard form 180 to release his military records, but Kerry has NOT. Yet he's TELLING everyone that he HAS released them.
I guess if you keep telling the lie, people will believe it .....
Check out this thread where the Carter discharge is discussed
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1207871/posts
I wish I had seen that before! :)
Carter's pardon only applied to violations of the Selective Service Act.
No, he gave him a discharge under Title 10 US Code 1162 which is at the pleasure of the President and may have been just for Kerry. You think? Maybe?
I bet there's nothing here.
You could be right. Something isn't right though. I want to see what the repealed code section 1162 says.
Box 11 - TYPE OF TRANSFER OR DISCHARGE -- Released From Active Duty.
Box 13a - CHARACTER OF SERVICE -- Honorable.
Maybe there is a difference in active reserve and inactive reserve. Anyway, If Kerry has nothing to hide I see no reason why he shouldn't release his military records. He's hiding something.
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BTTT!!!!!!!!
Here ya go... Nuttin' there..
http://frwebgate.access.gpo.gov/cgi-bin/getdoc.cgi?dbname=browse_usc&docid=Cite:+10USC1162
Title 10 US Code 1162
TITLE 10--ARMED FORCES
Subtitle A--General Military Law
PART II--PERSONNEL
CHAPTER 59--SEPARATION
[Secs. 1162, 1163. Repealed. Pub. L. 103-337, div. A, title XVI,
Sec. 1662(i)(2), Oct. 5, 1994, 108 Stat. 2998]
Section 1162, acts Aug. 10, 1956, ch. 1041, 70A Stat. 89; Sept. 2,
1958, Pub. L. 85-861, Sec. 1(27), 72 Stat. 1450, related to discharge of
Reserves. See sections 12681 and 12682 of this title.
Search for USC Code Title 10 Sec. 12681-12682 found the following:
http://caselaw.lp.findlaw.com/casecode/uscodes/3/chapters/4/sections/section_301_notes.html
* United States Code
o TITLE 3 - THE PRESIDENT
+ CHAPTER 4 - DELEGATION OF FUNCTIONS
U.S. Code as of: 01/06/03
Section 301 - Notes
SOURCE
(Added Oct. 31, 1951, ch. 655, Sec. 10, 65 Stat. 712.)
TRANSFER OF FUNCTIONS
(f) The authority vested in the President by section 248 of the
said Armed Forces Reserve Act (see 10 U.S.C. 12681, 12682), to
effect the discharge of commissioned officers of the reserve.
BTTT!!!!!!!
Jeez! The DemocRATS are the champions of Evil .....
Are you sure it was USC title 10, sec 1162?
Could it have been UCMJ "Article" 1162?
1162. Alcoholic Liquors
The personal possession of any alcoholic liquors aboard any ship is prohibited.
The transportation aboard ship of alcoholic liquors for personal use ashore is authorized subject to the discretion of, and under regulations established by, the commanding officer.
This is a long shot, granted, but he may have violated a Navy Reg, been subject to court-martial under UCMJ, and been granted a discharge rather than face trial..
Personally, I think the prior post is more likely..
He was simply discharged at his request, to go into politics..
President Carter would have probably known Kerry's intentions, and political aspirations, and Leftist leanings..
Just the sort of young officer the President and the DNC would want, running for office..
(from Kerry's website) Look at his form DD214, the page
on the right.
Where is the date of thAT document?
bump for later
All supporting documents are here:
http://news.findlaw.com/legalnews/lit/election2004/docs.html
1) Kerry received an honorable discharge on 2/16/78
2) Kerry's officer candidate agreement dated 2/18/66 does not adamantly "require" a Ready Reserve schedule of 48 drills or 17 days service per annum. You will note the following clause "or other appropriate Reserve training as may be authorized." If because of post-VN drawdowns Kerry was not called to Reserve duty, then there's no there, there.
3) The Naval Reserve Manpower Center in Bainbridge was a records and personnel administration center for USNR. It was not an active command post where people reported for Reserve duty.
4) The UCMJ applies to reservists only while undergoing reserve training, UCMJ 802.2(a)(3) "Members of a reserve component while on inactive-duty training."
5) Lt. John Kerry's letter of 21 Nov. 1969 ... falsely states "My current regular period of obligated service would be completed in December of this year." This is not a false statement. Kerry's officer candidate agreement of 2/18/1966 establishes that his service period begins from the day of commission. Kerry was commissioned as a USNR Ensign on 12/16/66. His three-year active term thus concludes on 12/16/1969.
There are several other errors, but I don't have time to list them at the moment. Will be happy to followup later.
Is it legal for a person in the military to also serve as a senator? If Kerry had not been formally separated until 2001, does that create a problem?
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