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Shoot The Bastards?
The Autonomist ^ | 8/10/04 | Reginald Firehammer

Posted on 08/29/2004 6:17:59 PM PDT by Hank Kerchief

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1 posted on 08/29/2004 6:18:01 PM PDT by Hank Kerchief
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To: Fzob; P.O.E.; PeterPrinciple; reflecting; DannyTN; FourtySeven; x; dyed_in_the_wool; Zon; ...
PHILOSOPHY PING

(If you want on or off this list please freepmail me.)

Hank

2 posted on 08/29/2004 6:19:10 PM PDT by Hank Kerchief
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To: Hank Kerchief
But, "government is not the solution to our problem; government is the problem," Ronald Reagan eloquently stated. The freedom enjoyed by American citizens in the first one hundred fifty years of this country were not the result of the kind of government we had, but the fact there was so little of it. We have essentially the same kind of government today, but do not enjoy anything like the kind of freedom American citizens enjoyed as little as a hundred, of even sixty, years ago.

And this was written with a straight face, of course.


$710.96... The price of freedom
VII-XXIII-MMIV

3 posted on 08/29/2004 6:25:28 PM PDT by rdb3 ("The Republican Party is the ship and all else is the sea." ---Frederick Douglass)
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To: Hank Kerchief

I was a Gulcher in the '70s, convinced that society was about to collapse. At least, I missed disco. ;^)

As Disraeli said, "There's a lot of ruin in a nation."


4 posted on 08/29/2004 6:25:35 PM PDT by headsonpikes (Spirit of '76 bttt!)
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5 posted on 08/29/2004 6:25:59 PM PDT by clintonh8r (Vietnam veteran against Jean-France Kerry.)
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To: Hank Kerchief

The surest way to work within the system is to change our tax system to encourage accountablity. There is no accountablity now in our tax system because only 5% of the population pay almost half the load, while 50% of the people (democrats mostly) pay NO tax.

How can we control the cost of goverment if we don't share the burden so that everyone is intested in how it is run? When this happens we start electing people interested in running an efficent government. Right now our taxes are so high because only a small minority pay significant taxes.

John


6 posted on 08/29/2004 6:26:06 PM PDT by John_7Diamonds
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To: Hank Kerchief

Clair Wolfe sounds like another self-important space cadet.


7 posted on 08/29/2004 6:31:37 PM PDT by EveningStar
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To: Hank Kerchief; Landru
Some percentage (probably not large) of posters to Free Republic really do want freedom and know what it is. The rest think freedom means freedom from temptation, or risk, or worry, or responsibility—which is how most Americans today think of freedom.

This assertion makes me believe the author is viewing a markedly different version of FreeRepublic than the one I'm viewing . . .

8 posted on 08/29/2004 6:54:05 PM PDT by BraveMan
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To: John_7Diamonds
Right now our taxes are so high because only a small minority pay significant taxes.

Hows the weather on your planet?

Granted a few manage to avoid paying Federal Income Taxes, but the truth is almost everyone pays more than they should have to and if you factor in the myriad of hidden taxes on fuel, phone, bread, housing etc... EVERYONE is forced to pay more than they should. Damn man, half the price of a new home is taxes, then payment of those taxes are financed for 30 years.

Our taxes are so high because of an overly large, unbounded Central Government inserting itself into areas it has no right to be, and running redistribution programs in an effort to effect social engineering. The Central Government is now by and large only a tool of force for those who desire to control others.

9 posted on 08/29/2004 6:54:55 PM PDT by Lester Moore (Every knee shall bow and every tongue confess that Jesus Christ is Lord of All)
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To: Hank Kerchief; Darksheare; Jeff Head; OhMike; Netizen; Hank Rearden; Alamo-Girl; dread78645; ...
Hank, this needs to be in bold because too many folks don't read the entire article.

There are the conservatives—who may or may not be for freedom, depending on whether they ever figure out what it is.

There is an extremely successful conservative forum, Free Republic which is very active and has over 100,000 signed members. They say in their welcoming page, "Free Republic is an online gathering place for independent, grass-roots conservatism on the web. We're working to roll back decades of governmental largesse, to root out political fraud and corruption, and to champion causes which further conservatism in America."

So far so good.

In a personal statement of the founder it says, "In our continuing fight for freedom, for America and our constitution and against totalitarianism, socialism, tyranny, terrorism, etc., Free Republic stands firmly on the side of right, i.e., the conservative side."

If that is what "conservatism" is, we applaud it. The problem is, most "political conservatives" are not for freedom at all. In most cases, they defend "economic" freedom, but otherwise have an agenda which includes some set of moral behavioral standards they believe ought to imposed on everyone by force of law. What they mean by, "conservative," is "Republican," and actively defend anything a Republican administration does, however outrageous, oppressive, or tyrannical.

Some percentage (probably not large) of posters to Free Republic really do want freedom and know what it is. The rest think freedom means freedom from temptation, or risk, or worry, or responsibility—which is how most Americans today think of freedom.


10 posted on 08/29/2004 6:56:59 PM PDT by B4Ranch (You can evade reality, but you cannot evade the consequences of evading reality - Ayn Rand)
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To: B4Ranch; Carry_Okie; forester; sasquatch; SierraWasp; hedgetrimmer; knews_hound; ...

Short list. Anyone ever wonder why it's a short list?


11 posted on 08/29/2004 7:00:17 PM PDT by farmfriend ( In Essentials, Unity...In Non-Essentials, Liberty...In All Things, Charity.)
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To: B4Ranch

Thanks for the ping; I'll come back later to read it again - gotta get to work for a while.


12 posted on 08/29/2004 7:03:15 PM PDT by Hank Rearden (Never allow anyone who could only get a government job attempt to tell you how to run your life.)
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To: B4Ranch

I'd say the writer came here, said some blatantly liberal garbage, got banned, and is bitter about it.


13 posted on 08/29/2004 7:03:22 PM PDT by Darksheare (The Liberals say: Join me and together we shall RUE the galaxy!)
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To: EveningStar

Clair Wolfe is a very wise woman. And very, very well informed. She had a regular column in the 90s; but some of the email she was getting was pretty scary; some threatening. She has never struck me as self-important. She has also seemed to me to be a person of her own mind and has opinions. She was certainly a vanguard in leading this culture revolution back to sanity. But no, I don't think "self-important" describes Clair Wolf. None of her thoughts is about her ego; but instead; about what she thinks whether people agree or not.


14 posted on 08/29/2004 7:03:48 PM PDT by Alia
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To: farmfriend

The time for possible reform from within has long passed. That leaves only the gun and bloodshed. This nation was given birth via a revolution, with guns and bloodshed, perhaps again.


15 posted on 08/29/2004 7:05:43 PM PDT by cynicom
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IT was close during Klamath. I'm hoping that it won't come to that but sure seems like it is headed in that direction.


16 posted on 08/29/2004 7:06:37 PM PDT by farmfriend ( In Essentials, Unity...In Non-Essentials, Liberty...In All Things, Charity.)
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17 posted on 08/29/2004 7:07:22 PM PDT by foreverfree
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To: EveningStar

Claire Cool.........she never killed Kenny !


18 posted on 08/29/2004 7:12:53 PM PDT by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But, have a plan to kill everyone you meet. ©)
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To: farmfriend

After any successful revolution, one of the first acts passed by the new government is a law prohibiting new "revolutions".

Ours is no different. The state has become God or will soon declare itself thus.


19 posted on 08/29/2004 7:14:20 PM PDT by cynicom
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To: Hank Kerchief
I emphasize most people do not really want freedom. What most people want is safety and guarantees. Most people do not really even know what freedom is, and anyone born in the last 35 to 40 years has no firsthand experience with what it is like to be truly free. If freedom is ever going to be restored, or at least the march of encroaching government oppression and tyranny halted, we need all the freedom fighters we can get.

A friend wanted to expand his trailer park, and got licensed to add additional septic field. He was told by the county that he would have to pay a fee of $2000 for each additional trailer hook up. His comment was that we no longer live in a free country.

Bruce Willis was just fined over $20000 and had to restore an island in a pond on his acreage because he sodded it. (Thus changing the wetland nature of his land.) We no longer live in a free country.

Being mobile, I live freer than many, but look at the rules and regulations around us. Think about this the next time you allow a vote for more seatbelts, madatory insurance, or no smokeing zones. I believe that voting for democrats is moving in the wrong direction. Republicans are only a shade better. Voting for various fringe candidates who really support freedom also is not the answer. And the revolution, if it comes, will not be the answer. (Revolutions tend to feed on themselves if they win, and if they lose, well, they lose.)

20 posted on 08/29/2004 7:25:32 PM PDT by KC_for_Freedom (Sailing the highways of America, and loving it.)
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