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VANITY: The "Truth" about JimRob and Free Republic according to BADJOE
LibertyPost.org | 10/10/03 | BADJOE (Slightly revised by JimRob)

Posted on 10/10/2003 2:23:07 PM PDT by Jim Robinson

Edited on 10/10/2003 2:27:00 PM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

Dear Free Republic Friends,

My old friend and brother-in-arms BADJOE has promised to warm the cockles of our hearts by publishing an expose (the truth about JimRob and Free Republic according to Joe) on the 18th of this month, which represents the one year anniversary of the date he last posted to FreeRepublic.com and started up with LibertyPost.org.

So, as I believe that only the truth can set you free, and based upon the stratergery of pre-emptive strike, I have a confession to make (before BADJOE makes it public):

I have poisoned the well.

By my sly innuendos behind the scenes.

By my intellectual ineptitude.

By not trusting those that brung me to the dance to bring me home.

By my biting every hand that fed me.

By my arrogance that causes me to think I did it all by myself.

By my stubborness not because of principle, but because of my lack of ability to see what is transpiring.

Evidenced by:

One would think that with half again as many Freepers. with a recovering economy, It would take a great deal less time to raise the necessary funds.

By this time in the June 2002 effort with a goal of $70,000 we had raised $73,000. Not because of who did the fundraising, but because the sense of purpose, of family, of comaraderie, was still present.

BADJOE rang the warning bell, but none heard.

Conclusion:

It is a sad day.

For what was once a great hope, a means of bringing together those who are willing to pay dearly in blood, sweat, and money to save this country, we all love, has been reduced to an asterisk.

So sayeth BADJOE as he promises to publish all this and much more on the 18th. He's been feverishly working on this "project" for one full year. In addition to the "truth about JimRob" BADJOE intends to further betray our trust placed in him by revealing the names of our moderators. And who knows what else?

I can hardly wait.

Is it the 18th yet? Tick, tock.


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To: Jim Robinson
In addition to the "truth about JimRob" BADJOE intends to further betray our trust placed in him by revealing the names of our moderators. And who knows what else?

This is not a free speech issue. He has no more right to do that than he has the right to post your credit card information or social security number.

If Liberty Post has any class - or any sense, they’ll make it clear to BADJOE now that revealing proprietary information about Free Republic will get him the boot there too.

(They had better hope he hasn’t won access to their information as well.)

2,581 posted on 10/13/2003 8:12:00 PM PDT by Barnacle (A Human Shield against the onslaught of Leftist tripe.)
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To: gore3000
Why is there air? Heck, I don't know. And I'm not going to go looking to satisfy you. Sheesh! Each person's posts stand on their own. If you received a warning it was due to something YOU posted. NOT the other guy.

Do not blame others for something you did yourself.

How come I'm getting the distinct feeling that some of you grew up without mothers? It's a heck of a way to have to enter life.
2,582 posted on 10/13/2003 8:14:55 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Conservative by nature... Republican by spirit... Patriot by heart... AND... ANTI-Liberal by GOD!)
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To: george wythe
This artificial characterization of evolutionists=atheists and creationists=Christians is a cheap debating technique

No it is not. Most of the problem evos are self-proclaimed atheists. Don't see any atheists in the anti-evolution side either. To Christians God is the creator of all things including life and man. Evolutionists deny that so any Christian who sides with Darwinian evolution is denying the prime tenets of his faith.

2,583 posted on 10/13/2003 8:15:08 PM PDT by gore3000 ("To say dogs, mice, and humans are all products of slime plus time is a mystery religion.")
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To: strela
I posted to every nasty, backstabbing, broken-beer-bottle-in-an-alley flame group in Usenet for years before I found FreeRepublic. The only rule in some of these newsgroups is that eyeballs plucked out of their sockets during a flamewar must be handed back intact and not stomped into the sawdust on the floor.

LOL I used to post at Nascar.com around '97 when they had the big chatroom. They even had to shut it down because of the nastiness. Goes with the territory I guess.

The crevo threads scare the living bejeebers out of me.

I haven't read any of those threads in a long time. I've always liked to discuss the heritage and migration aspect of Christianity instead of whether evolution exists. Whether evolution helped bring us here, or we were created in one day 6000 years doesn't take away from the fact that both would be miracles. The universe is a miracle. Something created an imbalance to spark the big bang.

2,584 posted on 10/13/2003 8:15:32 PM PDT by #3Fan
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To: Junior
Now, I thought Antigone was the daughter of Oedipus, and Creon was an uncle, or something.

Oedipus, now that was a close family.

2,585 posted on 10/13/2003 8:15:55 PM PDT by js1138
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To: Revelation 911
has anyone seen polycarp?

He's gone on to fight on "other fields of battle" as he put it.

2,586 posted on 10/13/2003 8:16:41 PM PDT by Barnacle (A Human Shield against the onslaught of Leftist tripe.)
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To: #3Fan
I used to post at Nascar.com around '97 when they had the big chatroom. They even had to shut it down because of the nastiness.

Yeah. I got flamed out of that place for suggesting that NASCAR drivers turn RIGHT every once in a while ;)

As for my thoughts on creation and God, I dispute that anyone, even myself, even has enough gray matter to truly understand ALL of God's handiwork and mysteries. The best I can do is enjoy it.

2,587 posted on 10/13/2003 8:19:22 PM PDT by strela ("It's about governance. It's not about sermons." Brooks Firestone)
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To: Barnacle
Just in:

$20 from Never Never Land
$50 from Ohio
$5 monthly from Michigan
$50 from Florida

Thank you all very much!!
2,588 posted on 10/13/2003 8:19:29 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Conservative by nature... Republican by spirit... Patriot by heart... AND... ANTI-Liberal by GOD!)
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To: Jim Robinson
Well, if I were making an erroneous statement, I would expect to be corrected about it. If there were no personal attack involved in the response, I would certainly not feel the need to press abuse.

Several of us have risked banning to stand up and tell what has been going on. Do I want to be banned from this forum? No. But is it worth it to me to just step in line and pretend like some really bad things aren't going on here? It's not. I'm sorry that you want to address our concerns with sarcasm. I'm sorry that you apparently take others words for the alledged abuse instead of investigating it yourself. I'm sorry that one can't have a good discussion on creation/evolution without insults flying. You know, I was on the religion forum a few days ago and it has mostly turned to Catholic articles. Most of the religious debate is gone. The forum IS changing, and it's not for the better. As group after group fall away, the threads will become a chat room. Minds will not have the opportunity to solidify what they believe or even be convinced of something else because there will be very little diversity of opinion. That is a sad thing to happen to this forum, but it's coming.

I've spoken my peace. Unless there is something else that I need to respond to, I believe I'll skidaddle.
2,589 posted on 10/13/2003 8:19:41 PM PDT by DittoJed2 (Conservatives, by and large believe in God, and liberals believe they are gods- A. Coulter)
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To: gore3000; DittoJed2; HalfFull; AndrewC
"I urge you brothers, to watch out for those who cause divisions and put obstacles in your way that are contrary to your teaching you have learned. Keep away from them"
ROMANS 16:17

Common sense and the Scriptures tell you to move to a different place here on FR, where your words may be better understood and help turn people to The Lord. It's not gonna happen here on this vanity thread or on the "science" threads. That's OK...

"The man without the Spirit does not accept the things that come from the Spirit of God, for they are foolishness to him, and he cannot understand them..."
1 CORINTHIANS 2:14

Your messages are no longer effective. Martyrdom is not a Christian act...so, don't 'die' here in vain.

And, besides, this house belongs to JimRob and he can run this however he wants to.

Free Republic is an online gathering place for independent, grass-roots conservatism on the web. We're working to roll back decades of governmental largesse, to root out political fraud and corruption, and to champion causes which further conservatism in America. And we always have fun doing it. Hoo-yah!

2,590 posted on 10/13/2003 8:20:57 PM PDT by NewLand (The truth can't be ignored...)
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To: Howlin
I'm bookmarking this thread; the very next time somebody tells me how nasty I am, they're getting this link! I'm a rank amateur compared to some of these people.

Oh God, how the great one has fallen!

ROTFL! (never saw anything like this one!!!! :-)

2,591 posted on 10/13/2003 8:21:46 PM PDT by ladyinred (Talk about a revolution, look at California!!! We dumped Davis!!!)
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To: gore3000
any Christian who sides with Darwinian evolution is denying the prime tenets of his faith.

I disagree with you. You're never going to convince me and I'm never going to convince you.

Most Christians I know are believers in evolution to some extend.

I went to parrochial school, and evolution was taught to us as compatible with our biblical beliefs.

At any rate, the important part of my post is this:

The great chasm is between nasty and angry posters on one side and polite and forgiving posters on the other side.

2,592 posted on 10/13/2003 8:22:45 PM PDT by george wythe
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To: Howlin
Wow, what a major-league pissing contest.
2,593 posted on 10/13/2003 8:23:56 PM PDT by Constitution Day (Eschew exclamatory abuse.)
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To: Petronski; general_re; Poohbah; BlueLancer; hellinahandcart; Constitution Day
Never, ever aim an attack at another poster.

Never, ever.

My philosophy too, except when some jerk really ticks me off.

;-)

2,594 posted on 10/13/2003 8:24:09 PM PDT by dighton (Nasty Little Cliqueâ„¢)
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To: CobaltBlue
Hi, I'm Ahban, and IDer, and I beleive that animals can speciate through subtraction of information.
2,595 posted on 10/13/2003 8:26:01 PM PDT by Ahban
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To: DittoJed2; gore3000; All
And, in the meantime, I receive this in my email box:

Subject:           ATTN: Jim Robinson
   Date:           Mon, 13 Oct 2003 20:4:31 -0600
   From:           "webmaster" webmaster@designeduniverse.com
      To:           "webmaster@freerepublic.com" webmaster@freerepublic.com


Hello, webmaster,

Mr. Robinson,
Re: the post below. 

I have seen my name and person defamed on your website for the last time. From the time that I
was banned through the false charges of Alamo Girl concerning banning until today, a certain
group of posters has continued to smear and lie concerning me, my character and my actions. I
would be more than ecstatic, at this point, to see this entire defamation campaign exposed
before a jury. You have not been told the truth by Alamo Girl or others concerning myself. I
request that you remove the proceeding defaming post from your website as well as the poster
who maligned my name. I furthermore request that the group of evolutionists who have been most
abusive concerning myself and other creationists (you know who they are) to be warned to cease
and desist. You have a good 2 months of damning evidence against you on your webiste. Is it
really worth it to continue this nonsense? 
I'm very serious about this.
Your call brother.


http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/999117/posts?page=2337#2337

   To: Stultis; PatrickHenry; VadeRetro; Piltdown_Woman; Right Wing Professor

I've been lurking this thread and skimming through it this morning... A few things jump out at
me: 

1) The incessant whining of DittoJed2 and, of course, LBB (That's Gore3000, aka "Little Boy
Blue" for you non-CREVO thread readers. He always posts in blue... kinda like that annoying
kid back in 7th grade with all the bodily function noises all the time, just to get attention.
Sure, he got the attention, but he never made an intelligent sound.) 

2) they both implore us to visit their little site. Here, I'll do it again: everyone go to
DesignedUniverse.com. Currently, there are about 5 or 6 "members" there, at least 3 of which
are recently banned (and quite angry) FReepers. The only catch is, to read their venom, one
has to register. Fair enough... until you realize you have to give the site owner way too much
personal information. Which, most times, would be fine as well. 

3) HOWEVER, the site owner is non other than banned FReeper ALS. Possibly the scariest poster
I've ever been witness too. Alamo Girl has accused him of "cyber stalking." I am fully aware
of another female FReeper who has a similar (and even scarier) story about the man. I don't
know many details, but I certainly believe both women, as I have never had reason not too. So,
ALS has this little thing going over there at his site, with 2 other bannees
(goodseedhomeschool and jessesherun) and a few of our more colorful creationists (gore3000 et
al) and they want US to visit, give names, residencies, IP's, addresses, god knows what else,
you sure as hell know he logs each and every IP that visits his site (and notice that gore's
recently posted links all take you there) and lord knows what he does with the info he
collects. And no, this isn't tin foil material, I am actually serious, despite my screenname. 

4) Spurious accusations? Hollow accusations? perhaps... but I doubt it. Those of us who have
been witness to the coordinated blitzkreig of the Des.Uni crowd know better. Bannees returning
with false aliases, obvious flame-baiting with new screen names, abuse of the abuse button,
pulled threads, endless nazi claims, on and on and on. For a short while, it kind of worked
(Late July/early August) as we simply became tired of the crap and some of us took a break.
One of "us" couldn't control himself and got banned. (Aric2000... which by the way, was
justified). Thankfully, the mods caught on to the game and 3 of the worst were subsequently
banned. (and one, jessesherun, got banned while posting in the religion forum, which I still
find schaudenfreudian delight in). 

5) Anyway, it must be said there are a few on the creationist side I take no umbrage with.
Plenty, actually. Once in a while, some fall victim to the DesUni crowd which sucks. I'd just
like to publicly thank whomever is/was responsible for the bannings of the previously
mentioned FReepers and to say that that is a big part of the reason I've doubled my FR
donation this quarter. 

6) There are some rather brilliant folks over on the science threads. You ALL should visit
those threads sometimes, as it's often a good diversion from day to day politics. The
mysterious Ichneumon, king of the thorough and reasoned posts is always good for some
learning. RadioAstronomer is a fountain of knowledge. VadeRetro, RightWingProfessor,
PatrickHenry, Piltdown_Woman, Physicist... on and on. Always good stuff (whether I "get" it
all the time or not.) Of course I've forgotten several other posters. 

6) ok, that was a totally random post, sorry.


2,337 posted on 10/13/2003 6:26 AM PDT by whattajoke (what was in my coffee this morning?!) 
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Best regards. 

webmaster
webmaster@designeduniverse.com
2003-10-13




2,596 posted on 10/13/2003 8:26:47 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Conservative by nature... Republican by spirit... Patriot by heart... AND... ANTI-Liberal by GOD!)
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To: ladyinred
I have not been on thes thread for some time, the last time I was on it, it was about badjoe.

TELL ME., WHAT HAS ALL THIS JR. HIGH ARGUING HAVE TO DO WITH BADJOE????

2,597 posted on 10/13/2003 8:27:38 PM PDT by chadsworth (Hillary MUST BE STOPPED BEFORE 2004 ; Davis MUST BE REMOVED)
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To: DittoJed2; gore3000; All
My reply:


Well, whatever. Take your best shot. In the meantime, stay the hell away from my forum. And
call off your vicious attack dogs. You and your coconspirators seem to be working in concert
to cause harm and damage to me and my company. Better look up the definitions of working in
concert, conspiracy, malicious intent to cause harm and damage, etc., etc., etc.

And just remember, no one, and I mean no one forced or compelled you to sign up and
participate in the Free Republic forum, and no one forced you to stay or to engage in long
drawn out verbal wars with others. You all did it all on your own and you and you alone are
responsible for the consequences.

Your bet has been seen and raised.

Jim

2,598 posted on 10/13/2003 8:28:39 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Conservative by nature... Republican by spirit... Patriot by heart... AND... ANTI-Liberal by GOD!)
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To: Jim Robinson
For the sender:


2,599 posted on 10/13/2003 8:29:24 PM PDT by Petronski (I'm *NOT* always *CRANKY*.)
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To: NewLand
Common sense and the Scriptures tell you to move to a different place here on FR, where your words may be better understood and help turn people to The Lord. It's not gonna happen here on this vanity thread or on the "science" threads. That's OK...
Have already moved along Newland. Goodnight.
2,600 posted on 10/13/2003 8:31:10 PM PDT by DittoJed2 (Conservatives, by and large believe in God, and liberals believe they are gods- A. Coulter)
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