Posted on 10/10/2003 2:23:07 PM PDT by Jim Robinson
Edited on 10/10/2003 2:27:00 PM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]
Dear Free Republic Friends,
My old friend and brother-in-arms BADJOE has promised to warm the cockles of our hearts by publishing an expose (the truth about JimRob and Free Republic according to Joe) on the 18th of this month, which represents the one year anniversary of the date he last posted to FreeRepublic.com and started up with LibertyPost.org.
So, as I believe that only the truth can set you free, and based upon the stratergery of pre-emptive strike, I have a confession to make (before BADJOE makes it public):
I have poisoned the well.
By my sly innuendos behind the scenes.
By my intellectual ineptitude.
By not trusting those that brung me to the dance to bring me home.
By my biting every hand that fed me.
By my arrogance that causes me to think I did it all by myself.
By my stubborness not because of principle, but because of my lack of ability to see what is transpiring.
Evidenced by:
One would think that with half again as many Freepers. with a recovering economy, It would take a great deal less time to raise the necessary funds.
By this time in the June 2002 effort with a goal of $70,000 we had raised $73,000. Not because of who did the fundraising, but because the sense of purpose, of family, of comaraderie, was still present.
BADJOE rang the warning bell, but none heard.
Conclusion:
It is a sad day.
For what was once a great hope, a means of bringing together those who are willing to pay dearly in blood, sweat, and money to save this country, we all love, has been reduced to an asterisk.
So sayeth BADJOE as he promises to publish all this and much more on the 18th. He's been feverishly working on this "project" for one full year. In addition to the "truth about JimRob" BADJOE intends to further betray our trust placed in him by revealing the names of our moderators. And who knows what else?
I can hardly wait.
Is it the 18th yet? Tick, tock.
No, you are still here. You were the most blatant breaker of the agreement in the less than 12 hours after it took effect. You published ALS's personal e-mail and in addition restarted the argument going after it had died down. You were the troll and every evo on that thread knew it. Nevertheless they would not say a single bad word about your behavior and instead attacked me for pointing out the truth. Your hypocrisy and that of your fellow evos is the problem.
Good to see you TF.
The problem is that all too often, any disagreement with "creationism" (any version) or any pointing out that the physical evidence doesn't support certain creationist suppositions can raise outraged accusations of "Christian-bashing".
And it's hardly "Christian-bashing" which is the main draw for creationists on the science threads (they generally show up *before* anyone has ever mentioned religion) -- unless of course you want to try to expand the definition far enough that mainstream science itself is considered an affront to your faith. What brings the Usual Creationist Suspects to the science threads is a chance to explain to all of us ignorant folk how wrong evolution/geology/physics/cosmology is, how mainstream science is a conspiracy of atheists hiding the horrible secret that *real* science (the suppressed part) actually confirms that what the Bible says is literally true, including Earth being only a few thousand years old, etc.
For example, in your first plunge into the evolution-creation debates, on the first page of the thread, you wrote:
I don't find evolutionists "amusing". I find them pathetically sad. I also find them angering because they willfully distort the record in text books to get kids to believe the lie of evolution while suppressing anything that even sounds like creation.
There had been no "Christian-bashing" on that thread to that point, nor even any mention of Christians until *you* raised the issue in post #13 ("And because most people have heard only the evolutionary viewpoint about these creatures, it is important that Christians know how to respond to the evolutionary comments").
So if we're supposed to avoid anything you and your friends might construe as even a hint of "Christian-bashing", when can we expect you to refrain from initiating the neverending game of "science bashing"?
So please, stop claiming that the creationists only show up on the science threads to defend Christians from unprovoked attacks. It's not true. They swarm there to attack the science, and would continue to do so whether Christians, Christianity, or creationism were mentioned or not. And on the few science threads the creationists manage to miss, lo and behold, the posts fail to turn into the predicted Christian-roast, instead people actually talk about the science involved (well, and cheese and moose of course).
Looks like we're going away any way.
Because you choose to, or because you think you're going to be booted?
It's rather odd that the most recent thread that went into the backroom managed to accumulate almost 600 posts before someone came on and stirred things up by declaring that non-Christians could not be conservatives. When called on it he said it was a joke. If so, it was his first on the forum. Anyway, within a few more posts, the thread was in the backroom.
That thread has as one of its high points, your #14, which labels evolutionists as stupid, dishonest killers. The most interesting thing is that you didn't manage to start a flame war with this. Perhaps some of us showed restraint. It wasn't until someone else excluded Catholics from the list of Bible believing Christians that the flame war began.
I do recommend your post #14 as a model of how to attempt a flame war. Even if it failed on this occasion.
Close.
Bashing evolution is not bashing science as I have said many times and has never been refuted. Evolution is not science, it is an abomination of science. Science and scientists is not about 'possibly', 'could be' and 'maybe' as Darwin and all evolutionists on these threads , on articles, on books, - in short - everywhere claim. Science is about hard facts, experiments and observations.
Further, the fact that you equate bashing evolution with Christian bashing shows quite well that you know evolution is not science, but a religion, your religion.
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